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Back and catching up. Will say I used my role
Oh target was Kami
I’m not buying two prostitutes tbh but Nash why didn’t you go after Kami when he claimed ? Atleast to presssure ? You mentioned yourself you think it was a bit strong at some point so why do you trust he is one?

Meanwhile if both claimed hoes (regardless of affiliation) didn’t gun for James then someone is lying among them. Or there’s another which would be ridiculous
These are codes?
 

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Is it me or I am getting sicklied every game recently :arf . Twice in the same game now!
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Players should get Antibodies as secondary after one disease!
 

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if there was a santa, there would have been gift earlier, noone claimed to have received a gift. Thought of rookie, but they need to perform a kill twice to upgrade, my only explanation is that they had 2 janitors from get go.
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ooh mafia trying to make me lynched ? :catshrug
sam you re just confirming my point

im bodyguard who litteraly hinted at my 2nd post i think. and i have no secondary.


My vote will go on sam or hardy.

@James Rye care please to share your action and your thoughts ?
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:s
First off: Thank you for not lynching me last day!

Second: It finally happened! I got a result! I was not blocked last night!!! Which means Nash didn't blocked me! Her claim she would block me was a bluff! She trusted me! :celebrate
Or she was 50/50 blocked by Escort but I doubt that when they already decided to kill her. They most likely blocked you and then got rid of her. Wonder why they used the 2nd Janitor though when all roles are already known.

WHY HOLT WHEN ITS JAMES AND HARDY
Because of this comment and DD keeping his vote on me, I checked on DD. And I got: *drumroll* GUILTY!

Which doesn't really help much since I don't know my sanity, I know, but still, I got a result! I don't even care if I get lynched, after 3 nights I finally got something back!

I'm so happy! :shout
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Well, not quite true. With that result I can rule out naive sanity for sure.
 

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ok ok so Gary died as necro
DD and teubi actions fits. Its hard for me to think otherwise, though, dd could have made up the claim.
and they went for nash it makes james more suspcious.

@Teubier who did you target and what did you do ?


another sickly, then why they never used it before ?

@wojak who did you sickly ?
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-teubier is necro i dont dpoubt that thats how we ended up to holt = Janitor

-Hardy is 100% scum

-james im unsure, he and holt were trying to force a james mislynch

-Demon is 100% town

- now wojak, was leaning towards town, now im leaning toward mafia due to target if anything he should have targetted hardy.

-Sam heabily leaning towards scum, bot bc of his role, but his ations, aand again by elimination

-I truste dd yesterday still leaning towards town

@digitaldude who did you target can you share results.
Brandish and no results
 

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I sickend Teub
Will be back at home shortly then read things and share my thoughts
 

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WHY KAMINOGAN WANTED TO KILL JAMES OVER AN INNOCENT RESULT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
NOW JAMESTRYING TO MURDER ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUG YOU MAFIA
 

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Okay, went through everything.

I really shouldn't change my mind on who I check 😩 Intended to check Teubier but had a thought of needing to check James- no secondary on him 💩I suck...



Why were you so up in arms with me locking on Holt? Didn't want people potentially joining my lock on him which would condemn your Janitor buddy?
I probably should have told you that I don't have a secondary but I've got a feeling if I had done so that would have just made you want to check me even more.

This! Because of that comment I decided to check on DD instead of Hardy. Because with Hardy we already got the Brand vs Hardy showdown with Demon's shot whereas on DD we got nothing but his SM actions. I'm happy I still put up an action even with Nash's block looming over me. My paranoia about her being 2nd escort really was wrong after all. Thank god she didn't blocked me! Though if she had then I would have ofc claimed that I couldn't be the Janitor killer after all.

Two players unable to vote and we are 6 LOL.
Has anyone hinted at 2nd sickly? If not then clearly that 2nd one is scum, but would both sicklies be in the Mafia team? 2 Janitors? 2 Sicklies? 1 Escort? Really? 2 Sicklies seem too much to me.

I'm trying to wrap my head around this but they had to have made a game with two Janitors?????
2 Janitors is so weird. What a strange role choice for Mafia giving them 2 Janitors.

Nope. Can’t target dead mafia afaik.
Used on Kaminogan. Used his ability on James. Got an innocent. Not very informative without knowing Kaminogan’s sanity.
We know he ain't paranoid though.
With his innocent and my guilty we can assume 3 scenarios though:

1.) He was sane I am insane
2.) Both him and me were intended as sane Dets
3.) Either him or me was a naive or paranoid useless Det but with 2 Janitors and an Escort I don't wanna believe that. Also 2 sicklies clearly means Mafia has at the very least 1 Sickly in their team

@Teubier What did you do last night?
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You would know because of Holt obviously. Holt also preferred lynching James over you. Lynching you was very doable yesterday.

Let's say James is Mafia Det. With everyone having claimed he is useless now. Mafia would try to lynch a Townie.
I was already useless because I was blocked the past 2 nights though? And with Nash declaring she will block me N3 and her dying tonight, why wouldn't I simply claim being blocked by her to clearly showcase that I am not the 2nd Janitor if I was scum?
Again:
I'm not Mafia. I'm Detective. And I finally got my first result! Thank you, Nash for not lynching me last day and not blocking me last night. <3
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WHY KAMINOGAN WANTED TO KILL JAMES OVER AN INNOCENT RESULT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
NOW JAMESTRYING TO MURDER ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUG YOU MAFIA
Dude, chill. I just literally wrote the three possible scenarios down. Either I am insane which means my result on you means you're town or I am sane which means my result on you means you are not SM but Mafia. Or I am simply paranoid and never was meant to be useful anyway.

But I just noticed something weird.
Why did you say Kami wanted to lynch me over an innocent result?
According to Nash's action we know he was blocked N1 so he couldn't have gotten a result. Teubier was the one who got an innocent result on me last night.
Your post is not making sense.
 

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Brandish and no results
Interesting

you might have been blocked by Nash or Escort if applies

assuming you and teuber said truth,
then only sam, wojak, james and hardy could have performed the kill. and sam is bomb, unless bomb is his secondary. so it leaves sam and wojak. and james I think Sam claims psy bc he mafia and knew his team has a secondary. But holt and hardy tried to lynch james so i doubt jame is janitor, still could be scum, but for now im focused on others due to yetserday voting.

Assuming dd and teubier said the truth, Mafia did :
- sickled 1 or 2 townies to manipulate voting, 6 ,players 3x3 they will all lock on same person or try to get townie their side
- blocked dd to frame him and make him lynch
- janitored nash to maintain incertainty and doubts among townies
they want to get a townie lynched and they will kill and block on night
they likely have escort unless it was nash blocking.

thats my reading

to me remaining mafia are very likely sam, hardy, wojak /or james

again i still keep in mind the possibility of lying among the others players, but for now i think
-teubi is to new to necromancer role to fake it, he was pretty lost intially about its using
- if dd was lying he would have said he got results on bran.

to me safest lynch is hardy, and maybe sam too, i cant see sam as townie at all. for now leaning towars sam but can switch to hardy depending on demon opinion and who the ones i trust the most will vote for.

@James Rye what do you think of all it ?
 

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We’re at 3v3 voting. If town splits, we lose.
Before pushing any lynch, we need to agree on a single direction.
 

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Interesting

you might have been blocked by Nash or Escort if applies

assuming you and teuber said truth,
then only sam, wojak, james and hardy could have performed the kill. and sam is bomb, unless bomb is his secondary. so it leaves sam and wojak. and james I think Sam claims psy bc he mafia and knew his team has a secondary. But holt and hardy tried to lynch james so i doubt jame is janitor, still could be scum, but for now im focused on others due to yetserday voting.

Assuming dd and teubier said the truth, Mafia did :
- sickled 1 or 2 townies to manipulate voting, 6 ,players 3x3 they will all lock on same person or try to get townie their side
- blocked dd to frame him and make him lynch
- janitored nash to maintain incertainty and doubts among townies
they want to get a townie lynched and they will kill and block on night
they likely have escort unless it was nash blocking.

thats my reading

to me remaining mafia are very likely sam, hardy, wojak /or james

again i still keep in mind the possibility of lying among the others players, but for now i think
-teubi is to new to necromancer role to fake it, he was pretty lost intially about its using
- if dd was lying he would have said he got results on bran.

to me safest lynch is hardy, and maybe sam too, i cant see sam as townie at all. for now leaning towars sam but can switch to hardy depending on demon opinion and who the ones i trust the most will vote for.

@James Rye what do you think of all it ?
Erin this is such a word salad that makes no sense.

What do you mean Sam has bomb secondary?

What do you mean that mafia have janitor, janitor, mafia bomb, escort and 2 sicklies?

James has been lying all game and only now he got results. DD could be doing the exact same. It makes it look like Nash blocked him which exonerates him from the night kill.
 

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it just came to my mind, what if hardy is not bomb but mafia holding potato, so he could have another role an use it ?
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Erin this is such a word salad that makes no sense.
trying to pretend you dont understand what i mean.... good job, mafia boi !
 

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it just came to my mind, what if hardy is not bomb but mafia holding potato, so he could have another role an use it ?
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trying to pretend you dont understand what i mean.... good job, mafia boi !
Then I'd had just said I had a potato instead of letting brand catch me with my pants down?

No, it's not understandable and you know it. Again, you don't even make an effort in replying and just retort in bad faith.
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Ok you wrote Sam instead of Hardy and you think I have a bomb secondary and Sam is either the new Janitor or the escort. That's the first part of it?
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Omg you really believe James was blocked until last night?
 

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am instead of Hardy and you think I have a bomb secondary and Sam is either the new Janitor or the escort. That's the first part of it?
yup thats just hypothesis, im trying to figure out sam more than you tbh.
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Omg you really believe James was blocked until last night?
I didnt say that ; no idea, i just don't think he is janitor. if escort in game tho i tend to believe they blocked DD last night.
 

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so it leaves sam and wojak. and james I think Sam claims psy bc he mafia and knew his team has a secondary. But holt and hardy tried to lynch james so i doubt jame is janitor, still could be scum, but for now im focused on others due to yetserday voting.

Assuming dd and teubier said the truth, Mafia did :
- sickled 1 or 2 townies to manipulate voting, 6 ,players 3x3 they will all lock on same person or try to get townie their side
- blocked dd to frame him and make him lynch
- janitored nash to maintain incertainty and doubts among townies
they want to get a townie lynched and they will kill and block on night
they likely have escort unless it was nash blocking.
What else was your imaginary escort doing if not blocking James? I'm saying that's the angle you sre pushing.

Also idk what you mean with "and james".
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I was open for both lynches yesterday, could had played dumb and locked before Nash SPECIFIED she wanted me to vote James. But I still waited until she made it abundantly clear and I'm still punished for it 🥴
 

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Okay, went through everything.



I probably should have told you that I don't have a secondary but I've got a feeling if I had done so that would have just made you want to check me even more.

This! Because of that comment I decided to check on DD instead of Hardy. Because with Hardy we already got the Brand vs Hardy showdown with Demon's shot whereas on DD we got nothing but his SM actions. I'm happy I still put up an action even with Nash's block looming over me. My paranoia about her being 2nd escort really was wrong after all. Thank god she didn't blocked me! Though if she had then I would have ofc claimed that I couldn't be the Janitor killer after all.



Has anyone hinted at 2nd sickly? If not then clearly that 2nd one is scum, but would both sicklies be in the Mafia team? 2 Janitors? 2 Sicklies? 1 Escort? Really? 2 Sicklies seem too much to me.



2 Janitors is so weird. What a strange role choice for Mafia giving them 2 Janitors.



We know he ain't paranoid though.
With his innocent and my guilty we can assume 3 scenarios though:

1.) He was sane I am insane
2.) Both him and me were intended as sane Dets
3.) Either him or me was a naive or paranoid useless Det but with 2 Janitors and an Escort I don't wanna believe that. Also 2 sicklies clearly means Mafia has at the very least 1 Sickly in their team



I was already useless because I was blocked the past 2 nights though? And with Nash declaring she will block me N3 and her dying tonight, why wouldn't I simply claim being blocked by her to clearly showcase that I am not the 2nd Janitor if I was scum?
Again:
I'm not Mafia. I'm Detective. And I finally got my first result! Thank you, Nash for not lynching me last day and not blocking me last night. <3
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Dude, chill. I just literally wrote the three possible scenarios down. Either I am insane which means my result on you means you're town or I am sane which means my result on you means you are not SM but Mafia. Or I am simply paranoid and never was meant to be useful anyway.

But I just noticed something weird.
Why did you say Kami wanted to lynch me over an innocent result?
According to Nash's action we know he was blocked N1 so he couldn't have gotten a result. Teubier was the one who got an innocent result on me last night.
Your post is not making sense.
So we are both innocent?
Do we keel hardy today?
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thats what im asking
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@digitaldude what do you think ?
Im thinking I was really wrong last day.... holt wasnt on my radar as mafia
 

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Interesting

you might have been blocked by Nash or Escort if applies

assuming you and teuber said truth,
then only sam, wojak, james and hardy could have performed the kill. and sam is bomb, unless bomb is his secondary. so it leaves sam and wojak. and james I think Sam claims psy bc he mafia and knew his team has a secondary. But holt and hardy tried to lynch james so i doubt jame is janitor, still could be scum, but for now im focused on others due to yetserday voting.

Assuming dd and teubier said the truth, Mafia did :
- sickled 1 or 2 townies to manipulate voting, 6 ,players 3x3 they will all lock on same person or try to get townie their side
- blocked dd to frame him and make him lynch
- janitored nash to maintain incertainty and doubts among townies
they want to get a townie lynched and they will kill and block on night
they likely have escort unless it was nash blocking.

thats my reading

to me remaining mafia are very likely sam, hardy, wojak /or james

again i still keep in mind the possibility of lying among the others players, but for now i think
-teubi is to new to necromancer role to fake it, he was pretty lost intially about its using
- if dd was lying he would have said he got results on bran.

to me safest lynch is hardy, and maybe sam too, i cant see sam as townie at all. for now leaning towars sam but can switch to hardy depending on demon opinion and who the ones i trust the most will vote for.

@James Rye what do you think of all it ?
DD being blocked means Nash didn't trust him and that DD can't be Janitor. Still could be scum though depending on what sanity mix Copan gave me and Kami. Or ofc after me saying I got results he lied about having no results to avoid responsibility for tonight's kill. After all, besides me, Nash was most sus of Hardy. I would expect her to block Hardy the most if she chose not to block me. Going for DD feels odd.

Escort blocking DD over you or Teubier makes no sense in case of framing him, especailly after deliberately doing a Janitor kill. If anything it gives him the perfect cover since he can easily point to not being the Janitor.

Also if we are 3x3 right now, wouldn't that mean Mafia started with 2 Janitors, 1 Escort and a 4th role, possibly Mafia Boss due 2 dets, while holding 2 sicklies? Feels very strong to me, even with our graveyard based townie set up. So either they didn't started with 4 people which implies a traitor being ingame or they only had 1 sickly while having a 4 Mafia crew.

I think Sam or DD are lying about their role, if we got no traitor/lovers then psy is in-game just why? For bombs? Very unlikely. With 2 Necros a SM use ain't that big, plus with his targets all we would know would be their night 1 targets which is useless af and easy to fake. Also DD claimed that role after pretty much everyone had taken their claim. Another thing is that the past two days DD voted early for Kami and me but this day he hasn't put out a vote yet. He stayed on Kami and on me even when others noticed the mafia pile on me and didn't liked the switch to Holt. Makes me feel like he knows the stacks of today's vote but I feel like a townie DD would have placed a vote early on to lock later.

Voting-wise Hardy is our safest best for a lynch.

But I feel like either Sam or DD are our Escort. One of these two roles are just not needed for this game. Either there are no traitor/TP then no psy needed or there simply never was a SM due 2 necros already being there to use ??? roles.
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So we are both innocent?
Do we keel hardy today?
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Im thinking I was really wrong last day.... holt wasnt on my radar as mafia
IF and I write that in black IF the 1st scenario is real then that would be the most convenient result for us as that clears us both. If its the 2nd scenario then me getting a result on you as a sane det with no knowledge on my sanity just provides you another excuse besides the no result implying that Nash blocked you last night making it impossible for you to be Janitor. And if its the 3rd scenario then I could be talking out of my butt regarding my sanity and Kami's because until I get a different result I won't know my sanity for sure.
And I don't like how you said that we are both innocent given how much you were on my butt last day and how upset you were on sam's switch from me to Holt. You got cozy real quick after I revealed my result on you. Are we best buds now? <.<

@Erinyes

I think we should try to lynch either Escort or Sickly today if we can figure that out. Janitor is meaningless since we know Nash's role already and Teubier can use it next night. But an Escort blocking me from investigating N4 when i might find out a different result or confirm myself by checking you would would a big hindrance. Same for Mafia Sickly surviving today to just block another townie to not vote next day.
 

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@Hardy how green are you in NBA terms?
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I think Sam or DD are lying about their role, if we got no traitor/lovers then psy is in-game just why? For bombs? Very unlikely. With 2 Necros a SM use ain't that big, plus with his targets all we would know would be their night 1 targets which is useless af and easy to fake. Also DD claimed that role after pretty much everyone had taken their claim. Another thing is that the past two days DD voted early for Kami and me but this day he hasn't put out a vote yet. He stayed on Kami and on me even when others noticed the mafia pile on me and didn't liked the switch to Holt. Makes me feel like he knows the stacks of today's vote but I feel like a townie DD would have placed a vote early on to lock later.
sus
 

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What else was your imaginary escort doing if not blocking James? I'm saying that's the angle you sre pushing.

Also idk what you mean with "and james".
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I was open for both lynches yesterday, could had played dumb and locked before Nash SPECIFIED she wanted me to vote James. But I still waited until she made it abundantly clear and I'm still punished for it 🥴
Blocking Erin so that their Janitor could kill Nash unhindered for one.
It's why I assume Mafia started with 1 Sickly who kept it hidden until today. 2 Janitors 1 Escort 1 other role with Sickly.
That makes more sense because with 2 Sicklies one of the other roles would have to decide whenever to do their role action or the sickly action, like Escort/Sickly for example meaning Escort cannot block while sickening someone.
Ofc there is a chance that this combination happened and could also explain why I was not blocked tonight because Mafia deemed today being their best bet to get a town lynched with 2 votes less to worry about aka blocking a vote was a higher priority than blocking me for a third time in a row. But then that means Mafia starting with 2 vote blocking roles which is damn strong. Them having one sickly would already be plenty strong enough with their role set.

But I don't like wojak's sickly vote on Teubier instead of you. But with him using sickly every night since the beginning and being open about it he can't be the hidden 2nd sickly and he can't be Escort. Well and ofc he can't be the Janitor either as he can't kill and sicken someone the same night. So I would put him aside to not lose focus on you or Sam/DD where I assume said Escort or maybe even 2nd Sickly is hiding.
 
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