Games Mafia Game 140 - Manga Sippers - End Game

[Demonspeed]

He knew that there were two Sicklies from the beginning hence the convenient claim. The fact that he hasn't liked the post with Holt's death/reveal has been in my head all this time too. Is it that obvious...

 

[SirSamuel016]

He knew that there were two Sicklies from the beginning hence the convenient claim. The fact that he hasn't liked the post with Holt's death/reveal has been in my head all this time too. Is it that obvious...

I feel like quoting prime Raven at how fucking stupid this is

 

[Demonspeed]

Desmond...



What do you want me to say? I'm trying to figure out why Erin is so shonky, surely you see how I see her coming across as less trustworthy? Its like she's in another dimension at times with how disconnected she is

What do you want from me? I don't have the time to invest heavily in the game currently as I have extremely pressing deadlines to meet

If I see something I think is shit, like the act of rushing to lock like Erin did, then regardless of target I think that deserves criticism. This is do or die, if we mislynch then the scums win yet caution got thrown out the window. Yes Hardy can be scum and quite possibly is, but are you telling me you seriously believe James at this point?

What I need to be sure of is that Hardy through process of elimination is the best lynch to keep town in it. From my perspective, I'm a Psychiatrist so I know that I have to be finding something- be it the hidden sickly or something else. What baffles me though is the doubt some have about me which feels very odd. James flipped from trusting me for most of the game to suddenly distrusting me after I locked on Holt yesterday. It's such a significant shift, and then you've got others bouncing on that argument too in fashions that sound so genuinely inauthentic.

I'm fucking lost in this game and two Janitors is the biggest fucking bit of bullshit I've seen since the Clown role, but at least try and understand my concerns instead of getting swept up by bad actors and town dickheads wanting me gone.

You are focusing too much on Erin and James. That's my problem. One thing I mentioned is how Hardy wasn't touched last night despite what happened with Brandish. Why are you so chummy with Hardy now but so critical of Erin? What changed?

 

[SirSamuel016]

YOU DIDN'T LIKE A POST SO YOU MUST BE SCUM!

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT AND HOW DOES THAT HOLD ANY BEARING ON THE GAME?! THAT IS LITERALLY THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN A MAFIA GAME IN MY 42 GAMES

 

[James Rye]

Long post, went back to the ones I didn't react to due getting sleepy.

Was suspecting DD more but these recent posts don't make me feel good about Sam at all.

Funny, with how Sam distrusted me and even voted me he started to feel more town to me than DD switching from his freak-out over Sam's switch from me to Holt with today DD cozening up to me "so we're both innocent?". Plus his repeated "why did Kami investigate James and wanted him dead over innocent" when we had Nash say she blocked Kami night 1 and Kami never said who he targeted N1 expect his fake Prostitute target which wasn't me. It's Teubier who used Kami's role last night but DD keeps ignoring that even after I told him so.

Like yes Hardy is still a factor too but fucking hell every time James speaks I feel like my will to live dies or something Its straight cheeks to get through

Dude, I'm just trying to figure out who has been blocking me. If the Escort doesn't die they just gonna block me tonight and I'm back to the gallows again. Just look at today!
I got a result and I'm still in a versus fight with Hardy who clearly isn't the Escort. They want to keep the Escort and Janitor for next night, so that I get blocked and Janitor does a normal kill to paint me as the 2nd Janitor.

No. James almost died more than once and Janitor was another issue. Holt's priority was to keep himself safe and keep the roles he killed mysterious to Town.

No Mafia had been killed too and he wasn't a big suspect.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 25, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 25, 2026 ---

Erin voted Holt, then Sam did(good for Sam) but now they are against each other.

Holt was among the most trusted, marm trusted him, DD did so too and after voting Kami to save my butt I also trusted him. With Brand townie and Holt Mafia it makes me wonder about Sam, since these 3 votes were what saved me on day 2. Would two Mafias really vote one after another for a Det claimer with no results?
There is a chance but I think with Escort they couldn't care less if I died day 2 or day 3, they just wanted to keep me around as a useful scapegoat to point at and say "look at the no result det, lynch him!" which almost worked to their favor but because they were too enthusiast town switched votes lynching Holt instead, which was the worst result for them.

Its still between james/hardy for me, why did kaminogan say lynch james after investigating him

DD! Kami was blocked by Nash N1! You yourself said you got no result on Kami so how do you know he investigated me N1 when his declared fake prostitute target was somebody else? It was Teubier who used Kami's role! This is the 2nd time I'm telling you!

It makes no sense for mafia to block James twice in a row, it was brought up last day by Nash. By a mysterious escort while there's also a new janitor around. This is beyond stupid.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 25, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 25, 2026 ---

FR what's your argument for trusting James so much?

All logic you and Erin bring up starts with "Hardy is mafia which then means... x y and z" and instead of trying to find mafia in the game you are trying to find mafia in me. You are confirmed (bad) town ok but I 100% think Erin is acting in bad faith and even engaged with me that way.

If they hadn't blocked me night 2 I would have 2 results now since I went unblocked night 3. 2 Results in a small pool of 8 would be bad news for them. It totally makes sense for them to block me 2 nights. Heck, I wouldn't even wonder if they had blocked me for three nights but they probably believed Nash's bluff of blocking me and choose to block Erin to ensure the kill on Nash.

Why they would block the SM of all people makes zero sense to me though.

To make things clear, here is my take on the situation :
_ James = 2nd Janitor.
_ Hardy = mafia bomb + sickly.
_ Wojak = mafia ??? + sickly.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 25, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 25, 2026 ---

Yes. James or Holt wad losing a Janitor whichever way. Losing James was less consequential as it wouldn’t have revealed Gryffindor’s and Gary’s role.
And she didn’t stop you voting Holt. Never. She told you to dedicate. You chose James on your own accord.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 25, 2026 ---

If I’m right, mafia is indeed patient and none have voted so far. So Sam and Sifu will have to lock Hardy to force a cointoss.

Bro, what?
You think that if I was the 2nd Janitor and Mafia had two sicklies, one open one hidden, with Nash's clear indication of blocking me (as we know today was a bluff but Mafia couldn't have known during night phase), that Mafia would opt for me to do a Janitor kill to hide Nash's body?
Are you crazy???
If Nash had blocked me with your Mafia assumption then there wouldn't have been a kill today! And Nash would point at me and I would have instantlocked by everyone including Mafia to get rid of me as no kill with a block means I would have been the killer.
Do you think kill and blocks have the same prio or what?
With this move Mafia would throw away their two sickly votes as I would have been confirmed Scum with said block. This makes zero sense especially given you said you got innocent on me using Kami's role.
What is this nonsense? @Demonspeed does this make sense to you?

Yeah. I’ll be frank with you Hardy. At this point it’s a done deal for me.
I am convinced about my take on things. I trust DD and Sam are town.
The timing of the votes, both yesterday and today, make sense for a mafteam of you/james/wojak/holt.
Mafia were forced to lose someone yesterday because of those early votes from town.
Mafia were forced to create a situation where it would be a 3v3 voters today, to ensure a cointoss in the worst case for them. Hence the second sickly who acted.
This is it. I’m hoping that Sam and Sifu will lock you so that we at least have a 50/50.
Good luck mafia. I want to win this game, fingers crossed the cointoss goes our way.

Are you trying to create a cointoss or what? Creating a cointoss would be awful, we could lose the game 50/50 whereas for mafia 50/50 is their best option.

Sam is focused on James and Erin, trying to make the latter look scummy especially. Nothing about Hardy, DD etc. He already voted James without saying anything substantial about it.

Yeah, that I don't like either. :/
If a town ends up locking on me then three Mafia might move on me and lynch me once and for all.
At least I got something on DD so my reveal will confirm my result being real but then that leaves everything into trusting Teubier using Nash block blocking the kill.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Can you fucking condense your posts James? Bloody hell

 

[Demonspeed]

Me misreading Sam might hurt me more than losing NGL .Unless he is Town's Lover maybe.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 26, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 26, 2026 ---

Hardy should be lynched anyway.

 

[James Rye]

Desmond...



What do you want me to say? I'm trying to figure out why Erin is so shonky, surely you see how I see her coming across as less trustworthy? Its like she's in another dimension at times with how disconnected she is

What do you want from me? I don't have the time to invest heavily in the game currently as I have extremely pressing deadlines to meet

If I see something I think is shit, like the act of rushing to lock like Erin did, then regardless of target I think that deserves criticism. This is do or die, if we mislynch then the scums win yet caution got thrown out the window. Yes Hardy can be scum and quite possibly is, but are you telling me you seriously believe James at this point?

What I need to be sure of is that Hardy through process of elimination is the best lynch to keep town in it. From my perspective, I'm a Psychiatrist so I know that I have to be finding something- be it the hidden sickly or something else. What baffles me though is the doubt some have about me which feels very odd. James flipped from trusting me for most of the game to suddenly distrusting me after I locked on Holt yesterday. It's such a significant shift, and then you've got others bouncing on that argument too in fashions that sound so genuinely inauthentic.

I'm fucking lost in this game and two Janitors is the biggest fucking bit of bullshit I've seen since the Clown role, but at least try and understand my concerns instead of getting swept up by bad actors and town dickheads wanting me gone.

I never said you are outright scum, I just said that you are among the suspects who could have faked their role knowing about 2 Janitors and secondary role being in-game if you were Mafia. The Escort gotta have to claim a convenient role that wouldn't put much pressure on providing intel while people having no real way of disputing said intel. Both psy and SM fit that category.

I didn't wanted to upset you.

I just want to get rid of the Escort today so I can be 100% sure I get a result without having to worry I get blocked N4. That's all.

 

[SirSamuel016]

And can someone tell me why I would ever vote Holt and risk losing a Janitor if I was scum? Assuming Hardy is scum, if I was mafia then he was right there for cred if I wanted to lynch a teammate. it makes ZERO fucking sense for me to lock on Holt like that if I'm scum, but no, go on and fucking convince yourselves I'm not Psych because you can't accept that I've just played like shit this game.

Fuck me sideways cunt, we deserve to lose this game. We lucked onto Holt and have nothing else going for us save for Town Brand defusing a potential mafia bomb in Hardy.

 

[Demonspeed]

No reason to keep Hardy alive from my POV. The Vigilante shot, the fact that Holt(only confirmed Mafia) preferred a James lynch over him. He ended up voting James while he had the option of going for Holt. His reasoning isn't too bad but not convincing enough. He claimed Doc which was Gryff's role. It's the reason why I shot Bran and not him.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Dude, I'm just trying to figure out who has been blocking me. If the Escort doesn't die they just gonna block me tonight and I'm back to the gallows again. Just look at today!
I got a result and I'm still in a versus fight with Hardy who clearly isn't the Escort. They want to keep the Escort and Janitor for next night, so that I get blocked and Janitor does a normal kill to paint me as the 2nd Janitor.

If there is an escort then why weren't you blocked again? It makes no sense to suddenly block... what was it, the Spirit Medium DD(?) whose information would do little for us compared to a Det result

 

[Demonspeed]

And can someone tell me why I would ever vote Holt and risk losing a Janitor if I was scum? Assuming Hardy is scum, if I was mafia then he was right there for cred if I wanted to lynch a teammate. it makes ZERO fucking sense for me to lock on Holt like that if I'm scum, but no, go on and fucking convince yourselves I'm not Psych because you can't accept that I've just played like shit this game.

Fuck me sideways cunt, we deserve to lose this game. We lucked onto Holt and have nothing else going for us save for Town Brand defusing a potential mafia bomb in Hardy.

Same reasoning you used for Erin: for cred?

Erin voted Holt even earlier than you.

I am not 100% sure but assuming you are Mafia/Lover/Traitor whatever. I guess you expected Hardy to die and wanted to distance yourself.

I had to tell you to lock too.

 

[James Rye]

Can you fucking condense your posts James? Bloody hell

Okay,
TLDR:

- Sam distrusting me >>> DD going "yo, James we both inoocent aint it" after being upset over Sam's voteswitch to Holt yesterday and wanting me dead.
- Sam losing their mind over 2 Janitors while I just worry about the Escort more
- Demon trusts Erin and so do I, Gryff doc and Erin BG just makes sense as 2 protector roles in a 15 player pool
- DD being blocked as SM claim by Escort is weird except Nash not trusting DD.
- DD saying that Kami investigated me and tried to lynch me despite the innocent on me, when he himself said he got no results on Kami and Nash confirming she blocked Kami night 1 is weird af
- Teubier's Mafia guesses are real wild because it implies Mafia were ready to send me to my death day 4 which would overall lose them the game. If Nash has pulled through with her declaration we would have 9 players today, 2 which would be voteblocked, a 4 vs 3 situation turning their reveal of having 2 sicklies into a waste. Like what?

Also Teubier got innocent on me, I got guilty on DD yet Teubier is all "I trust DD, James is scum". He wasn't that much on my ass the past day phases and suddenly I am 2nd Janitor when I finally got a result in? Meaning I was the one who killed Nash last night? Makes no sense.

That good, Sam?

 

[Demonspeed]

Bartender! Replace my Pineapple Juice with Piña Colada!

 

[James Rye]

If there is an escort then why weren't you blocked again? It makes no sense to suddenly block... what was it, the Spirit Medium DD(?) whose information would do little for us compared to a Det result

Yeah, this is why I think DD is the Escort. I've said so before. Escort blocking Sm makes 0 sense. Nash blocking DD because she distrusts him after that Holt freakout makes sense.

I can see 2 possible scenarios:
1) Either Mafia trusted Nash and decided to use Escort on Erin to kill Nash for certain
2) or Escort still stuck with me to ensure I never get a result even if Nash decided to go for me. Meaning Nash switch to DD ended up being on the Escort and her winning the coin toss.

The way DD only came out with his no results on Kami after my result is iffy. I think DD was waiting to see if I got blocked or not before faking a result. With me having one he knew no block happened on me either due 1) or 2) so he claimed on being blocked instead when saying he got no results back.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Same reasoning you used for Erin: for cred?

Erin voted Holt even earlier than you.

I am not 100% sure but assuming you are Mafia/Lover/Traitor whatever. I guess you expected Hardy to die and wanted to distance yourself.

I had to tell you to lock too.

Fucking oath no wonder you shot a fellow townie with reasoning like this

How does Erin being the first vote matter? I voted Holt too, and yes, after you prompted me, I even locked. I didn't have to but I did- would I lock a Janitor if I was scum like that? If scum then distancing myself from Hardy and James doesn't make sense, especially given the fact that I "distanced myself" BY LOCKING ON A FUCKING JANITOR. I COULD'VE GONE FOR ANYONE BUT I WENT HOLT. You must be a fucking gymnast with the amount of contorsion you have to do to somehow think I'm not a legitimate Psych.

 

[Demonspeed]

Fucking oath no wonder you shot a fellow townie with reasoning like this

How does Erin being the first vote matter? I voted Holt too, and yes, after you prompted me, I even locked. I didn't have to but I did- would I lock a Janitor if I was scum like that? If scum then distancing myself from Hardy and James doesn't make sense, especially given the fact that I "distanced myself" BY LOCKING ON A FUCKING JANITOR. I COULD'VE GONE FOR ANYONE BUT I WENT HOLT. You must be a fucking gymnast with the amount of contorsion you have to do to somehow think I'm not a legitimate Psych.

First or not, the same logic applies. That's all I am saying. You tried to shade her posting this.

 

[James Rye]

Wait @Demonspeed @SirSamuel016

What if Teubier was partly telling the truth when saying
"
_ James = 2nd Janitor.
_ Hardy = mafia bomb + sickly.
_ Wojak = mafia ??? + sickly. "

but instead of me being 2nd Janitor, Teubier is 2nd Janitor! Then, with DD most certainly being Escort, it would look like this:

_ Teubier = 2nd Janitor.
_ Hardy = mafia bomb + sickly.
_ DD = Escort.

Like two sicklies for Mafia combined with 2 Janitors feels way too strong. Better to split the sicklies. And by giving the Mafia bomb sickly as secondary they got a night action when necessary to voteblock somebody but they cannot control the sickly votes from wojak which is why they feel ass because wojak votes with his guts and no insider knowledge of who is certainly scum and who isn't. He still should have voteblocked hardy though.

And who is best to fake a Necro? A Janitor since they got knowledge about which roles were hidden and can fake results.

This is why xi0 died when everyone was wondering why Nash hasn't died. Because Mafia wanted to avoid that Kami already got used on me or hardy providing intel. With yi0 dying and Teubier staying alive they control the graveyard narrative. Which is why Teubier opted for Gryff since that provided us the least intel and faked a result on me today before I came out with my result.
Because he assumed I was blocked and he had no idea that DD was blocked.

Am I crazy or am i cooking?

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 26, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 26, 2026 ---

xi0 not yi0, typo, sorry. Got too excited.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Okay,
TLDR:

- Sam distrusting me >>> DD going "yo, James we both inoocent aint it" after being upset over Sam's voteswitch to Holt yesterday and wanting me dead.
- Sam losing their mind over 2 Janitors while I just worry about the Escort more
- Demon trusts Erin and so do I, Gryff doc and Erin BG just makes sense as 2 protector roles in a 15 player pool
- DD being blocked as SM claim by Escort is weird except Nash not trusting DD.
- DD saying that Kami investigated me and tried to lynch me despite the innocent on me, when he himself said he got no results on Kami and Nash confirming she blocked Kami night 1 is weird af
- Teubier's Mafia guesses are real wild because it implies Mafia were ready to send me to my death day 4 which would overall lose them the game. If Nash has pulled through with her declaration we would have 9 players today, 2 which would be voteblocked, a 4 vs 3 situation turning their reveal of having 2 sicklies into a waste. Like what?

Also Teubier got innocent on me, I got guilty on DD yet Teubier is all "I trust DD, James is scum". He wasn't that much on my ass the past day phases and suddenly I am 2nd Janitor when I finally got a result in? Meaning I was the one who killed Nash last night? Makes no sense.

That good, Sam?

Blocking a spirit medium makes zero sense- Teubs was there with Necro to investigate someone, and wasn't blocked. You, the other Det claimer, was also there to be blocked but you weren't. What good does blocking DD do?

Lets say that Nash didn't block you though- you know what did suddenly pop up? A second sickly. That also raises my suspicion.

thank you for the summary

First or not, the same logic applies. That's all I am saying. You tried to shade her posting this.

I refuse to believe that Town!Demon can be this fundamentally bricked when it comes to understanding conversation and thinking things through. I was arguing against your point and purely that- I didn't push a line that Erin was scummy or anything, just that her voting Holt didn't matter when it came to me voting and locking on Holt. It is genuinely impossible to interpret that as me shading Erin but look at you making stupid leaps with no basis.

 

[Demonspeed]

They only lost one person but I don't think Mafia would be brazen enough to rob one of their own of a vote.