Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 63 Spoilers & Discussion

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I always thought urek was a guardian of the galaxy on the outside, this just confirmed it.
I look forward to the ost for our starlord when the anime catches up
 

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I always thought urek was a guardian of the galaxy on the outside, this just confirmed it.
I look forward to the ost for our starlord when the anime catches up
Starlord is an incredibly cursed name for me right now after Infinity War :noworry
 

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That's just because everyone is inside the tower and they can use said axis power called shinsoo. Imagine now you are outside and go within Urek's light power axis field before he aquired it. It'd be the same concept, they can use the light powers but only within that space, as that power is not theirs. I'd say the same applies with Phanta and his darkness power.

I.e. whoever aquires the shinsoo of the tower will be the one who can actually summon shinsoo at will anywhere on the outside, same way Urek and Phanta can with their light and darkness powers. In other words, this means that FH are fodders compared to proper axis characters as they cannot do anything unless they live in an axis field whose power hasn't been claimed yet.
Thank god at least there is one who understands and follows siu and what he wants to deliver to us
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Well, Aurbyon claiming to be stronger than in his previous fight vs Urek on the outside and not coming close to planet buster lvl definitely didn't do us any favors in getting a precise idea of what the planetary statements imply.

Would Traumerei turning every human in the Tower in a shinheu hybrid under his control put him at planetary threat lvl ?
Aurbyon claiming to be stronger than in his previous fight << urek called aubriob fodder, so this means aubrion is brainless and so is every shining one , to urek all of them are fodders , so aubrion first he was amazed when urek defeated him yet at the same time he knew that he was no rival to urek when he compared penta to urek .

second aubrion/latour evne admitted that "urek is getting used to shinsoo" when he got defeated .
 

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SIU always makes it clear whenever possible that the three families are on another level, first Hon, then Jinsung, Zahard, Eduan, several characters mentioning this. Don't be surprised when a regent from these three families crushes someone like Lobadon or Dumas.
 

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It's easy to imagine some Arie or the Ha twins crushing people like Robadon, for the Khuns it could also be a matter of sheer number of people around that level that puts them on top.

After all i would imagine that besides monsters like Adori/Luslec no Towerborn could ignore a group of 5 Dumas lvl characters even if they could win a 1v1 fairly comfortably.
 

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SIU always makes it clear whenever possible that the three families are on another level, first Hon, then Jinsung, Zahard, Eduan, several characters mentioning this. Don't be surprised when a regent from these three families crushes someone like Lobadon or Dumas.
I am not sold on this. Other than the Arie who are definitely portrayed as superior overall, there is nothing like this for other families.
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Russian scans.
 

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By the way, seeing how Enzo’s mother is referred to,
I’m now certain that the floor ruler on the 3rd floor isn’t Enzo’s father, but his mother
SIU always makes it clear whenever possible that the three families are on another level, first Hon, then Jinsung, Zahard, Eduan, several characters mentioning this. Don't be surprised when a regent from these three families crushes someone like Lobadon or Dumas.
Well, no one expected the top 3 regents to be on a par with Rob or Dumas; we could already tell they would be stronger.
nothing really new on that
the only new thing is Ha slander
All I can see is
EVK: would have killed Yuri in Season 1 if she’d been there
Kallavan: actually tried to kill Jinsung
Kirin: would have killed Yuri, if he hadn’t been worried about Z’s army
Tiara: says that anyone who touches Kirin/Haetae will be executed, regardless of their family ties
Ha are just a bunch of bullies who pick on the weak; strong people don't give a damn about their so-called strong bond of ‘we won't forgive you if you touch a member of our family’
 

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By the way, seeing how Enzo’s mother is referred to,
I’m now certain that the floor ruler on the 3rd floor isn’t Enzo’s father, but his mother

Well, no one expected the top 3 regents to be on a par with Rob or Dumas; we could already tell they would be stronger.
nothing really new on that
the only new thing is Ha slander
All I can see is
EVK: would have killed Yuri in Season 1 if she’d been there
Kallavan: actually tried to kill Jinsung
Kirin: would have killed Yuri, if he hadn’t been worried about Z’s army
Tiara: says that anyone who touches Kirin/Haetae will be executed, regardless of their family ties
Ha are just a bunch of bullies who pick on the weak; strong people don't give a damn about their so-called strong bond of ‘we won't forgive you if you touch a member of our family’
Was Enzo's relative said to be the Ruler? They said it was an important person IIRC.

As for the strongest N.2/3s I am not convinced that they are all from the top 3 families.

And I agree with you about the Ha, they haven't really been impressive. Kinda the same for the Khun too, we only saw strong performance at the Regular level. Maschenny lacks feats.

Arie however are the strongest family and are so strong Maschenny even warned Ran about their style in particular.
 

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Was Enzo's relative said to be the Ruler? They said it was an important person IIRC.

As for the strongest N.2/3s I am not convinced that they are all from the top 3 families.

And I agree with you about the Ha, they haven't really been impressive. Kinda the same for the Khun too, we only saw strong performance at the Regular level. Maschenny lacks feats.

Arie however are the strongest family and are so strong Maschenny even warned Ran about their style in particular.
I don't agree with you about Ha family
1) Jinsung Ha joined FUG (biggest crime syndicate which goal is to bring down 10GF and Zahard)
2) Earlier when khun meet Jinsung Ha, he was so nervous he couldn't even meet his eyes. Did you remember what he said to khun....
Relax kid, i changed a lot, i no longer kill 10 great family members whenever i meet them. Means he killed the members of great family like left and right and stlill alive.
3) Maschenny is not an idiot to capture Jinsung Ha instead of killing him. He knows the value of the hostage.
4) When say the strange behaviour of Po Baido and Ha family. Its about how Yuri is being treated poorly.
5) It is impossible for Jinsung Ha to live after slaughter entire branch of his own family,
 

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I don't agree with you about Ha family
1) Jinsung Ha joined FUG (biggest crime syndicate which goal is to bring down 10GF and Zahard)
2) Earlier when khun meet Jinsung Ha, he was so nervous he couldn't even meet his eyes. Did you remember what he said to khun....
Relax kid, i changed a lot, i no longer kill 10 great family members whenever i meet them. Means he killed the members of great family like left and right and stlill alive.
3) Maschenny is not an idiot to capture Jinsung Ha instead of killing him. He knows the value of the hostage.
4) When say the strange behaviour of Po Baido and Ha family. Its about how Yuri is being treated poorly.
5) It is impossible for Jinsung Ha to live after slaughter entire branch of his own family,
Jinsung is barely CC tier and we saw characters who dwarf them among Towerborns. He also doesn't have a good track record. Keeps losing on-screen and spam the same ultimate move.

He is valuable but he isn't that strong.
 

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Jinsung is barely CC tier and we saw characters who dwarf them among Towerborns. He also doesn't have a good track record. Keeps losing on-screen and spam the same ultimate move.

He is valuable but he isn't that strong.
He is a above CC tier. He let down his guard against Kallavan at last fight still even at death door able to use remote reverse flow, Maschenny a high ranker couldn't move a muscle, also Kallavan is the strongest CC in Zahard army as he said not even high rankers can hurt him but baam d rank regular able to do so, he sole raise through ranks by his fighting power not by family background (this is confirmed by lyborick in nest battle)
 

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Jinsung didn't drop his guard against kallavan. He went to the fight thinking he could die. And the vast majority of jinsung's arsenal was outright useless against kallavan. His martial arts and reinforcement were outright insufficient to actually harm kallavan's comically tough body. And the tiger dragon floral butterfly caused damage to kallavan but didn't come close to killing him. Kallavan being the strongest CC is at best highly unlikely. Even post powerup.
 

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Was Enzo's relative said to be the Ruler? They said it was an important person IIRC.

As for the strongest N.2/3s I am not convinced that they are all from the top 3 families.

And I agree with you about the Ha, they haven't really been impressive. Kinda the same for the Khun too, we only saw strong performance at the Regular level. Maschenny lacks feats.

Arie however are the strongest family and are so strong Maschenny even warned Ran about their style in particular.
OK, I’d completely forgot that it never actually said outright, but everyone assumes she is based on the way the admin speaks to her

He is a above CC tier.
he is
Kallavan and Jinsung are on the same lvl , with Kallavan simply having the edge in terms of match-ups
also Kallavan is the strongest CC
If we're talking about Kall's pre-boost
bearing in mind we haven't even seen the 1st and 2nd CCs yet
I'd say we don't know, he's only slightly better than Yas
if we talking post boost, we still have no idea, but by pure powercreeping logic i will say no
 

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I remember SIU writing in a blog post that Yasratcha and Kallavan were on the same overall lvl, with Kallavan being stronger 1v1 and Yas being the more well-rounded or versatile character.

Barring future power ups, Jinsung clearly doesn't scale beyond CC/Top BH tier, any Regent tier fighter would destroy him and any CC tier fighter would force him to High diff+
 

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Man, Jinsung is such a bum now that it's pretty easy to argue AA can kill him by accident with whatever that weird bullshit he used on Dumas was.


Although to be fair again, Kallavan could also die on accident to AA :XD
 

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He is a above CC tier. He let down his guard against Kallavan at last fight still even at death door able to use remote reverse flow, Maschenny a high ranker couldn't move a muscle, also Kallavan is the strongest CC in Zahard army as he said not even high rankers can hurt him but baam d rank regular able to do so, he sole raise through ranks by his fighting power not by family background (this is confirmed by lyborick in nest battle)
If he dropped his guard that's his fault but it's not what happened. All his attacks were ineffective and he only had DTG. And all of this was against Kallavan before the timeskip.

What makes it worse is that he is a Ha, the family best known for their superior physical attributes. He then got defeated by Dumas with ease and during the first part of the fight, he was abusing the fact that Dumas had been ordered to not kill them. Still lost with ease.

His abilities are below CC in general and he has DTG that's much more powerful than anything else in his arsenal.

I remember SIU writing in a blog post that Yasratcha and Kallavan were on the same overall lvl, with Kallavan being stronger 1v1 and Yas being the more well-rounded or versatile character.

Barring future power ups, Jinsung clearly doesn't scale beyond CC/Top BH tier, any Regent tier fighter would destroy him and any CC tier fighter would force him to High diff+
Yes, something like that. Kallavan has superior offensive abilities and Yasratcha is more well rounded.

he is
Kallavan and Jinsung are on the same lvl , with Kallavan simply having the edge in terms of match-ups
This is more than a matchup thing. Frankly, I don't even see how it is supposed to be a bad matchup. That was a lame excuse. Kallavan is simply physically superior. If a Ha is outmatched to that extent, even with his edge in skills and experience, I don't see how it is a bad matchup.

After this he did decently well against a Top 3 BH Pudidy(without his Eagle Owl though 👀 ), despite his hand handicap(still makes no sense because he was apparently healing right after his loss and stayed imprisoned for 2 years but let's ignore that). That's why he is barely CC tier to me. He can handle them for a while but ultimately he loses. Unless maybe if he gets to hit them with DTG :catshrug .
 

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This is more than a matchup thing. Frankly, I don't even see how it is supposed to be a bad matchup. That was a lame excuse. Kallavan is simply physically superior. If a Ha is outmatched to that extent, even with his edge in skills and experience, I don't see how it is a bad matchup.

After this he did decently well against a Top 3 BH Pudidy(without his Eagle Owl though 👀 ), despite his hand handicap(still makes no sense because he was apparently healing right after his loss and stayed imprisoned for 2 years but let's ignore that). That's why he is barely CC tier to me. He can handle them for a while but ultimately he loses. Unless maybe if he gets to hit them with DTG :catshrug .
Meh
That's what SIU said, Kall dura counter Ha
Kall also said it but Jinsung call him ignorant,
Kall and Jinsung are equivalent that's why SIU also said that Jinsung would have a easier time beating people who can make struggle Kall and vice versa

Jinsung is a solid CC , Kall defense stat are just absurd for his tier
 

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Well, kallavan said he was a bad matchup to jinsung. In large part because kallavan was simply too tough for jinsung to punch through. The big caveat regarding jinsung's strength would be how rusty he was when he faced kallavan since it was the first time in a long while that he fought seriously. Though it's unknowable if the rust wearing off would increase his power particularly much.

Of course, the most likely scenario is that the actual heavy hitters in the ha family would punch through kallavan with ease.
 
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