Games Mafia Game 141 - Kingdom - End Game

[shinobi]

I like that Mafia Consigliere role, a shame it's not in the main role list.

 

[Demonspeed]

Reminder that if votes are tied, a Town will die for sure at the end of the DP.

 

[SirSamuel016]

hints dont mean much

They're still something for town to work with in order to make a better informed decision regarding lynches and the like so I disagree.

 

[Natasha]

Aight lets start making lists and chewing up suspects.

James Rye, mafia James is more reserved early and his play so far is antithesis to that.
Tubbs, his hinting has been alignment indicative of town often enough plus I don't think evil Tubbs cares to ask if he should trust me.

Shinobi, bold with votes and based take on the trap of shooting if you get lynched that we didn't notice p#60.
Brandish, enjoying himself roleplaying. Not sure what he's implying with p#24. Seems town-like but fluff is keeping him out of trusted.

Juvii, initially orange until I read back and like the blunt honesty on where she stands on Generals p#59, potential MR p#57 and shitposting on Copan seems more natural than forced.

DemonSpeed, Lambu vote is +rep here but the way he hinted reminds me of mafia demon energy.
Stylether, we're in a very different environment than where I know him from but if I was to guess an evil Stylether would prefer to be social now and learn in the day than wait for the night. That being said it would be nice if he pushed some kinda solve or wagon so we can read him.
SirSamuel, lacking the usual power he comes out with as town. Not gonna hold him to that standard every game, but I'm not seeing his strongest towntell atm.
Erinyes, fluff and rules clarification basically her only content so far. Cutting slack since she said timing was bad for her, but she's inspired more confidence with less posts before.
Copan, could be coasting but claims busy so some slack cut.

Farfalla, we might just be in disagreement but I feel like her take on how hints don't help mafia and pessimism on our stratagem buffs could be an effort to push us in the wrong direction.
DD, if he ends the day with a vote on tubbs and no other content then he's coasting
Lambu, his only content is on third party speculation and illusions.

No content yet:
Holt

 

[SirSamuel016]

Reminder that if votes are tied, a Town will die for sure at the end of the DP.

Thank you man with the Jojo Siwa hairstyle

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SirSamuel, lacking the usual power he comes out with as town. Not gonna hold him to that standard every game, but I'm not seeing his strongest towntell atm.

So you like me when I'm direct and assertive?

 

[Farfalla]

Gonna head to bread in a bit to try and fix my sleep schedule a bit, but I should be back before the end of phase

Votekill Jimothy Rye for now

Uh Sam, since you liked my post I take it as you being on the same page with my opinion, so mind telling why James? For posterity as I mentioned.

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Aight lets start making lists and chewing up suspects.

James Rye, mafia James is more reserved early and his play so far is antithesis to that.
Tubbs, his hinting has been alignment indicative of town often enough plus I don't think evil Tubbs cares to ask if he should trust me.

Shinobi, bold with votes and based take on the trap of shooting if you get lynched that we didn't notice p#60.
Brandish, enjoying himself roleplaying. Not sure what he's implying with p#24. Seems town-like but fluff is keeping him out of trusted.

Juvii, initially orange until I read back and like the blunt honesty on where she stands on Generals p#59, potential MR p#57 and shitposting on Copan seems more natural than forced.

DemonSpeed, Lambu vote is +rep here but the way he hinted reminds me of mafia demon energy.
Stylether, we're in a very different environment than where I know him from but if I was to guess an evil Stylether would prefer to be social now and learn in the day than wait for the night. That being said it would be nice if he pushed some kinda solve or wagon so we can read him.
SirSamuel, lacking the usual power he comes out with as town. Not gonna hold him to that standard every game, but I'm not seeing his strongest towntell atm.
Erinyes, fluff and rules clarification basically her only content so far. Cutting slack since she said timing was bad for her, but she's inspired more confidence with less posts before.
Copan, could be coasting but claims busy so some slack cut.

Farfalla, we might just be in disagreement but I feel like her take on how hints don't help mafia and pessimism on our stratagem buffs could be an effort to push us in the wrong direction.
DD, if he ends the day with a vote on tubbs and no other content then he's coasting
Lambu, his only content is on third party speculation and illusions.

No content yet:
Holt

Oh I actually have a good read on you but it's funny how my initial list would be almost a full opposite lmao. Emphasis on almost.

 

[Natasha]

So you like me when I'm direct and assertive?

Impassioned and bold.
Assertive almost never jives with me, leads to tunneling (I would know)

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Oh I actually have a good read on you but it's funny how my initial list would be almost a full opposite lmao. Emphasis on almost.

Ooh, which part do we agree on?

 

[Farfalla]

Ooh, which part do we agree on?

Mostly Sam and Lambs. Based on early takes.

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And maybe Teub (since no ref for a scum version)

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And I read Juvs as green instead of being split about her.

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Sorry typing while in motion lmao.

 

[Juviii]

Uh Sam, since you liked my post I take it as you being on the same page with my opinion, so mind telling why James? For posterity as I mentioned.

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Oh I actually have a good read on you but it's funny how my initial list would be almost a full opposite lmao. Emphasis on almost.

I fully agree with you here. My trust list is also almost reversed to the point reading this list alone makes Nash drop in trustworthiness to me. And seems my read on her was wrong too so need to revisit this.

DD though, I agree is acting a bit weird. He usually has no problem hinting. I believe so even as mafia so this is very out of character.


Not trusting James, Sam, DD and to a weird extent Shino and maybe Panda (he better come back and hint before going back to working naked... or was that a hint for prosti?? )Not sure if adding Nash here now. I kinda liked Lambu's hint tbh and I'm ok with all the frenchies so far even thought one has been looking at my boobs.
Holt's hint is super scorpio btw.

Gotta say you were sounding kinda off in the first posts, but the last ones seemed much better. I miss Mazino playing

 

[Farfalla]

Hmm sure Lambs has his hint going on for him, it is restrictive (didn't check how much tho), but Idk why I'm not fond of his SS post or the mafia strategem comment. I guess I'm being silly tbh, I imagine the SS check is a silly one to make since it's generated outside of the party, but on the other hand, I recall discussing that with Panda before and the idea didn't seem to be "obvious" to him either. The "That mafia stratagem is going to help them with claims so its better to be clear from the start" just seemed... tossed there? Be clear with what? Anyways, as I said, early things. I usually like him from the go and now I feel wary for wtv reason, might as well ignore it.

Jokes on me~ I get the early "wary of" and vibes issue comments myself, like now, so yeah

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To briefly complete my initial view on peeps: I'm not good at reading Demon or DD, so I'm wtv about them at this stage. I used to think I could read Erin somewhat well, but she fully mindtricked me once, so I leave my reads on her for later, same for Pan. Idk Style yet, and he seems ok to me so far? I have him as green-ish, "cooperative". Sam has been commenting on fluf only until recently. Nash seems pretty forthcoming with her role, not sure I see this lvl of narrowing in a scum, and her reads are her reads, she can be unorthodox, and it's too early for me to hardcore defend suspicion on someone. She was impressively assertive in the last game as well, so there's that. About the rest, I'm with Juvs: James can be vocal and engaged early on as scum, I used to agree he'd be more passive, but he's a wild card like we saw last game and in other famous moments. My main issue ain't with the MM possibly alone, but it rly didn't rub well how he seemed certain and pointed out towards a possible MR. Sure, we should discuss things, but imo putting a relevant role on the spot like that ain't beneficial to town. Shino seems uptight somehow, not the usual goofball? There's some fun in her comments, but Idk. And I overall actually like Bran (his playstyle in general and in here) but I didn't like the General spotting comments either on their sides. I guess that summarizes my current thoughts.

 

[Natasha]

I fully agree with you here. My trust list is also almost reversed to the point reading this list alone makes Nash drop in trustworthiness to me. And seems my read on her was wrong too so need to revisit this.

Hmm. Two people telling me back to back that my list looks opposite does inspire some doubt in me, I'm willing to re-assess.

You mainly took issue with my placement of Shino and James.

James is staying there, you'll have to trust me on that.

Why do you not like Shino so far?

We're agreeing on Sam/DD/Panda so I'm surprised that I'm moving down for you unless you really don't like my greens.

 

[digitaldude]

None of you seem that townie, at least day 1 hmmm

 

[shinobi]

Here's how I see you all:

I don't think Lambu can be in anyone's trust/feel good about list yet.

I agree Sam sounds weird, too soft? I guess.

I voted DD just because, but with him refusing/delaying/hesitating to hint my vote remains on him.

No reads on Holt, Panda, Erin, Demon, Tueb (tho he gave specific hints so he's better than others in this category), Style, Lambu.

Farf in the half-green half-yellow category for me, in general she feels ok tho but idk.

Nash looks ok? , I thought Juviii also looked ok, except she's emphasizing on the general thing too much, and her liking Lambu's hints for some reason. Brandish looks ok. James as well, except the MR invite maybe.

 

[Demonspeed]

Interesting to see people suspecting Lala like this early. Doesn’t happen often.

 

[Farfalla]

Lulz forgot about Holtie @.@ (I wonder why)
In general, I'm rarely down for a D1 Holt lynch anyways.

James is staying there, you'll have to trust me on that.

Hmmm I see.

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Interesting to see people suspecting Lala like this early. Doesn’t happen often.

Are you kidding me? XD

Not heavy suspicion, but the paranoia is there more often than not when a game starts.

 

[Juviii]

Hmm. Two people telling me back to back that my list looks opposite does inspire some doubt in me, I'm willing to re-assess.

You mainly took issue with my placement of Shino and James.

James is staying there, you'll have to trust me on that.

Why do you not like Shino so far?

We're agreeing on Sam/DD/Panda so I'm surprised that I'm moving down for you unless you really don't like my greens.

For shino there is the general question, and then she hesitated on voting panda then voted and unvoted really quick which made me distrust Panda more than I would normally. I feel like she would normally be more willing to join a prank like that and she sounds more defensive than usual? I wouldn't vote for her today though and will see how she will sound tomorrow.

DD I am uncertain because like I said even as mafia he usually say at least active or passive. And for Panda my main reason for distrusting him is shino's reaction so kinda unfair to him in a way (besides not hinting).

For Sam I didn't like him asking Erin to say if active or passive after she had already hinted, sounded like fishing for an active to kill and not much more going for him.

As for you I honestly don't get you. I thought you were hinting something but then your post made me think you are not. Plus your history of later going "tehee, I was joking, I am actually X" and your list not aligning with what I think. Especially James, why do you trust him so much?

 

[shinobi]

For shino there is the general question, and then she hesitated on voting panda then voted and unvoted really quick which made me distrust Panda more than I would normally. I feel like she would normally be more willing to join a prank like that and she sounds more defensive than usual? I wouldn't vote for her today though and will see how she will sound tomorrow.

DD I am uncertain because like I said even as mafia he usually say at least active or passive. And for Panda my main reason for distrusting him is shino's reaction so kinda unfair to him in a way (besides not hinting).

For Sam I didn't like him asking Erin to say if active or passive after she had already hinted, sounded like fishing for an active to kill and not much more going for him.

As for you I honestly don't get you. I thought you were hinting something but then your post made me think you are not. Plus your history of later going "tehee, I was joking, I am actually X" and your list not aligning with what I think. Especially James, why do you trust him so much?

I see. Your distrust me for not joining your prank right away ~
I didn't want to vote Panda at all. I messed with him just because he happened to appear right after I voted DD, then I changed my vote back to DD. If he didn't show up right after I voted DD I wouldn't have voted him at all.

 

[Farfalla]

Uh now I feel like checking last games just to see if my guess on Nash is an asspull lmao

 

[Natasha]

I used to think I could read Erin somewhat well, but she fully mindtricked me once, so I leave my reads on her for later, same for Pan.

I'm there in terms of Erin but I also remember being really confident in her town pretty early some games so not seeing that yet has me weary. Reserving judgement until she actually has time to play.

For shino there is the general question, and then she hesitated on voting panda then voted and unvoted really quick which made me distrust Panda more than I would normally. I feel like she would normally be more willing to join a prank like that and she sounds more defensive than usual? I wouldn't vote for her today though and will see how she will sound tomorrow.

I can see that being a red flag, I don't know shino well enough to judge. My positive read on her is mainly coming from the strong stances she was willing to take pretty early on as I pointed in the quotes, and now her most recent summary of thoughts just feels logical but I'm aware confirmation bias could be at play.

We're agreeing she's not an option today and I think that's good.

As for you I honestly don't get you. I thought you were hinting something but then your post made me think you are not. Plus your history of later going "tehee, I was joking, I am actually X" and your list not aligning with what I think. Especially James, why do you trust him so much?

I doooo have a history of doing that

I trust James. I'm willing to catch heat for that take. I'll elaborate if it becomes relevant, and that won't be now.

As for what you thought I am I can't tell; I didn't intentionally mix my signals but for clarity these are the strongest ones I did intentionally:

If you're ever lost just say the word, as long as you're willing to abandon your post we can discuss strategy!

The offer stands for anyone.

Add mech clears to the backbone of that friendship and suddenly it seems a lot more powerful >:3

 

[Farfalla]

I do think I'm right at what I think you're hinting at, but I couldn't find the other part of your hint now tho I had limitations and maybe didn't complete it.
Anyways, I'll stick to my feels and leave it as that. Not sure if it's worth probing it.