Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 67 Spoilers & Discussion

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That's the problem, not just FLs or TTs, even Regents won't go all out against low tier opponents and hence they hold back. U should be familiar with tower of holding back or nerfs at this point.
So you didn't say anything of note because they easily stomp any Towerborn. What you described never happened.
 

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Wdym not power related, it's essentially his strongest animal under him.
I mean that Traumerei was fine in pulling out an attack capable of one shotting Valhalla (2d disconnection) as it dealt an infinite amount of dmg on a conceptual lvl , but would have rather kept Valhalla hidden forever due to its ties to Ameuz.

If Traum could control another shinheu as strong as Valhalla he would have likely had no problems in bringing it out whenever he felt like it. It wasn't about towerborns being unworthy of fighting shinheus that strong.
 

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What you described never happened.
We literally see Mirchea doing UM because UM was holding back
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I mean that Traumerei was fine in pulling out an attack capable of one shotting Valhalla (2d disconnection) as it dealt an infinite amount of dmg on a conceptual lvl , but would have rather kept Valhalla hidden forever due to its ties to Ameuz.

If Traum could control another shinheu as strong as Valhalla he would have likely had no problems in bringing it out whenever he felt like it. It wasn't about towerborns being unworthy of fighting shinheus that strong.
If u think that way, shouldn't he bring Valhalla ahead. If u check the fight, Gussy never tried to attack Valhalla even claiming it's futile since it's immortal as long as Traumerei lives on. In that case, why would he attack Rapid who has same immortality.
 

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Funniest thing is that despite all these "L"s Yama is easily the second strongest FUG member right now.
Bro is like a worse version of vegeta he will get a big power up, has the potential for even more power ups. Ends up in a fight with someone stronger than his recent power up that makes him look bad aside from Traumeri who he had no chance against.
 

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If u think that way, shouldn't he bring Valhalla ahead. If u check the fight, Gussy never tried to attack Valhalla even claiming it's futile since it's immortal as long as Traumerei lives on. In that case, why would he attack Rapid who has same immortality.
Traumerei doesn't want to use Valhalla period, he eventually did it only because it's strong and useful in such a tough fight. Ideally, he manages to kill Gustang without using it of course, since he has access to disconnection. Rapid on its own is just fodder at that lvl, Traum had no illusions of it ever killing Gustang and vice versa Gustang never acknowledged it as a threat, they just didn't start the fight going all out because they wanted to talk a bit before settling things for good.
 

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Traumerei doesn't want to use Valhalla period, he eventually did it only because it's strong and useful in such a tough fight. Ideally, he manages to kill Gustang without using it of course, since he has access to disconnection. Rapid on its own is just fodder at that lvl, Traum had no illusions of it ever killing Gustang and vice versa Gustang never acknowledged it as a threat, they just didn't start the fight going all out because they wanted to talk a bit before settling things for good.
Enraged Rapid is able to combine with Traum the same way Bam can fuse with leviathan providing a power up. Gustang didn't try to tank their combined attack.
 

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Enraged Rapid is able to combine with Traum the same way Bam can fuse with leviathan providing a power up. Gustang didn't try to tank their combined attack.
Hence I said, on it's own, still it's not nearly on Leviathan lvl and, without access to disconnection, it wasn't that threatening of a power-up to Gustang still, since he could deal with that + Valhalla using Unos and making himself intangible, Traum was cutting air before manifesting 3d disconnection.
 

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Adori could be "stronger" than some FHs probably, and if she has a way to properly seal them, she could technically beat them in a fight. Remember, while FHs might have some particular advantages from admins (pseudo-immortality, being the only big one, afaik), they all use borrowed power, borrowed from the Tower's creator.

Actually, i'd say that its similar/equivalent to the situation between regulars and rankers. While rankers get their privileges from the tower's system, there have been cases of regulars defeating rankers, as we know. even if its the exception. The same way, the peak towerborns are likely able to overpower "weaker" irregulars.. Also, thryssas, snake, ancients, whatever, seem to be kinda different in a way. Not to mention, Baek. Nevertheless, their powers still work through shinsoo.
 

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Let’s be honest here Adori’s feat wasn’t that great!!! The PB fam just finished a war, Gus was no where close to 100%, Proust lost most of his lighthouses (took him forever to identify that is was Adori), Dumas was no where close to 100% either. Zahard foresaw this outcome and placed his chess pieces in the right spot for an ambush!!! Lyb even confirmed this when he told Kallavan to stop interfering in Z’s plan!!!
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Even Luslec knew that they needed to flee as quickly and far as possible!!!
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Going back to the Cage, I think JH was familiar with the Revs thus why he left and let them take Bam away from the MS!
 

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Adori could be "stronger" than some FHs probably, and if she has a way to properly seal them, she could technically beat them in a fight.
Impossible. How would Adori of all people have ways to seal them? Having more knowledge that the GWs?
 

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Going back to the Cage, I think JH was familiar with the Revs thus why he left and let them take Bam away from the MS!
His entire conversation with Goruro makes it impossible that he knew about Revs before
 

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Adori could be "stronger" than some FHs probably, and if she has a way to properly seal them, she could technically beat them in a fight. Remember, while FHs might have some particular advantages from admins (pseudo-immortality, being the only big one, afaik), they all use borrowed power, borrowed from the Tower's creator.

Actually, i'd say that its similar/equivalent to the situation between regulars and rankers. While rankers get their privileges from the tower's system, there have been cases of regulars defeating rankers, as we know. even if its the exception. The same way, the peak towerborns are likely able to overpower "weaker" irregulars.. Also, thryssas, snake, ancients, whatever, seem to be kinda different in a way. Not to mention, Baek. Nevertheless, their powers still work through shinsoo.

At this point in the story the one and ONLY Towerborn you can be giving arguments to possibly actually somehow reaching Family heads tier or even possibly surpassing it is a fully realized Nameless.

She's actually MADE for that, BUILT like that in fact.

Everybody else including Adori is basically never leaving Top Towerborn tier, not ever.
 

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Man, I have been talking a lot about Baek lately.
Do you consider him a normal Towerborn, or something in between a Towerborn and an Irregular?
Because if he’s still classified as a Towerborn, then his potential already seems abnormal. He could possibly reach Family Head level or even higher.
He didn’t develop his power through normal growth. He awakened something that was already passed down from someone ancient outside the Tower.
Currently, his power doesn’t work like a typical ability. It feels passive and more like a manifestation, where things happen around him instead of him directly controlling it.
So even if he doesn’t grow in the usual way, it feels like his ability could still affect things at that level, or even bypass it in some situations.
 

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Impossible. How would Adori of all people have ways to seal them? Having more knowledge that the GWs?
Yup, we dont know, thats why I said could (hypothetically). Perhaps, if Zahard or the Workshop aided her with that, say, with a special tool/item. So not knowledge, but "prep". Now, what would have happened if Gustang decides to pick up the fight when she attacked his fleet?
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At this point in the story the one and ONLY Towerborn you can be giving arguments to possibly actually somehow reaching Family heads tier or even possibly surpassing it is a fully realized Nameless.

She's actually MADE for that, BUILT like that in fact.

Everybody else including Adori is basically never leaving Top Towerborn tier, not ever.
Hmm, we will see I guess. Once we see the extend of full power Adori/Enne, this discussion will be settled for sure.
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Let’s be honest here Adori’s feat wasn’t that great!!! The PB fam just finished a war, Gus was no where close to 100%, Proust lost most of his lighthouses (took him forever to identify that is was Adori), Dumas was no where close to 100% either. Zahard foresaw this outcome and placed his chess pieces in the right spot for an ambush!!! Lyb even confirmed this when he told Kallavan to stop interfering in Z’s plan!!!
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Even Luslec knew that they needed to flee as quickly and far as possible!!!
--- Double Post Merged, ---

Going back to the Cage, I think JH was familiar with the Revs thus why he left and let them take Bam away from the MS!
Sure, thats how actual fights work, but then it was a casual strike from her, highly doubt that is the peak of what she can do. Now, im pretty sure Gustang isnt out either, so it would be a real treat if we get a fight there, but i doubt it.
 

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Hmmm, gotta say, the plot with the wells is getting less interesting for me. Baek unknowning opens a well and the purple thryssa escapes. It just doesn't seem like a being comparable to the other thryssas so far (which is not to say it isn't more powerful currently). Then ari revolutionaries jump to a different well and start releasing other creatures. And we still are not at nameless' snake's well.

I do wonder if nameless princess is a "daughter" of a thread snake like shilial. With that framing it wouldn't be too weird for her to want to release it. The nameless princess also sounds like someone that would otherwise have a natural affinity toward revolutionaries. Though it'd be interesting if the empire captures her and throws her in the garbage dump (which would tie up things nicely).
 

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Hmmm, gotta say, the plot with the wells is getting less interesting for me. Baek unknowning opens a well and the purple thryssa escapes. It just doesn't seem like a being comparable to the other thryssas so far (which is not to say it isn't more powerful currently). Then ari revolutionaries jump to a different well and start releasing other creatures. And we still are not at nameless' snake's well.

I do wonder if nameless princess is a "daughter" of a thread snake like shilial. With that framing it wouldn't be too weird for her to want to release it. The nameless princess also sounds like someone that would otherwise have a natural affinity toward revolutionaries. Though it'd be interesting if the empire captures her and throws her in the garbage dump (which would tie up things nicely).
I could totally see Nameless getting put in the dump and becoming Rachel's mom. It would explain why Rachel is so jealous and insecure, just imagine having a smoking hot mom and sister(s) who are also super strong and talented but losing the genetic lottery so you end with average looks and no talent.
Rachel would basically be Meg from Family Guy
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I was thinking something like this too. It's good that he was combat ready :XD.
By "something like (it)" I assume you mean getting drunk or having an orgy, since that's probably what Eduan spends 90% of his time doing.
 

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His entire conversation with Goruro makes it impossible that he knew about Revs before
JH is def familiar with Revs. I wouldn’t be surprised if his lover was one and sent to the red dump!!!
 

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I could totally see Nameless getting put in the dump and becoming Rachel's mom. It would explain why Rachel is so jealous and insecure, just imagine having a smoking hot mom and sister(s) who are also super strong and talented but losing the genetic lottery so you end with average looks and no talent.
Rachel would basically be Meg from Family Guy
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By "something like (it)" I assume you mean getting drunk or having an orgy, since that's probably what Eduan spends 90% of his time doing.
Hmm, to me it'd be quite questionable that rachel's mom could come from the dump. Rachel seems to be strictly an outside character.
 

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Btw I have been thinking about this ever since it's said Baek has Irregulars power. Can he kill 10 FLs.

We do know in hindsight it's almost impossible but it's because of the belief that they can only use shinsu. Guardians have full authority over it. Like for instance Valhalla is a towerborn too but it possessed Traumerei, an irregular's power and said could kill Gussy, a FL. So question is if they utilize power which isn't shinsu, can they kill 10 FLs?
 
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