Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[Demonspeed]

Btw, If Zahard wanted to create Dorothy as a vessel, why would he want to kill her now ? And why would the Family Heads seal all these trash creatures in the rift instead of just killing them ? They really don't seem that strong.

I forgot about this. I guess it's not Zahard's orders but from someone who wants to foil his plans?

And why are Latour and Aubryon going to such lenghts ? Isn't there a faster way to revive Mago ?

Mago is still in Nameless. They can't really remove her.

Yeah I appreciated that they showed at least some sense responsibility. I was also relieved that they did care about BaekRyun's power, which btw, I still think is inherited from Arlene. I don't really get why this so complicated for them to move around the tower, though.

It can't be one of the GWs we know.

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"They cannot be compared to King Zahard's forces"

Is he saying Shining ones cannot be compared to his army? That would be stupid

@Shiinhye1 I am very sorry to disturb u but Could u check if it's a translation issue? Are they referring to something else?

By this I understand that it includes Zahard himself, his followers and even the FH and their families in general since they are part of the system as well.

 

[Zestia]

"They cannot be compared to King Zahard's forces"

Is he saying Shining ones cannot be compared to his army? That would be stupid

@Shiinhye1 I am very sorry to disturb u but Could u check if it's a translation issue? Are they referring to something else?

Why would it be stupid? As strong as the SO are they are up against Zahard and their forces, that includes many High Rankers and even FL's.

They are massively outnumbered which is why Nameless is gathering forces to combat them.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

We need a poll now that a chapter has been released.

Are Revs and Shinies have same group or different? I believe shinies followers might be embedded with gems on their forehead or atleast they would have gems with them

 

[maverickframe_19]

We need a poll now that a chapter has been released.

Are Revs and Shinies have same group or different? I believe shinies followers might be embedded with gems on their forehead or atleast they would have gems with them

The revs have two factions, in my opinion: one is backed by shiny ones/nameless, and the other is backed by Zahard's clones. But the faction backed by Zahard's clones also has factions within itself; one faction's goal is aligning with FUG's goal (to kill the king and FHs), and the other faction's goal is meeting with Baam and witnessing the changes he brings to the tower (which eventually leads to killing the king)—this is my interpretation, but we'll see.

 

[Strange]

I wanted to check this out and even our tanslator turtle translated it and said "They cannot be compared to king zahards forces" since i know russian i went and checked what russian translator have said and it was the same LoL so it wasn't said anywhere that those guys couldn't kill zahard LOL and funniest shit ever

Liars to suit their agenda

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@Shiinhye1, thanks

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Couldn't kill zahard my a##

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@Ray Barracuda , did you see how they love to lie ?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

did you see how they love to lie ?

Imma give benefit of doubt and still say it's an issue of summary shortening things.......yeah

 

[Strange]

Imma give benefit of doubt and still say it's an issue of summary shortening things.......yeah

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Nameless is female Baam. Both of their bodies are from the tower but the souls are from outside.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Nameless is female Baam. Both of their bodies are from the tower but the souls are from outside.

Does that mean heroine has finally appeared?

 

[Demonspeed]

Nameless is female Baam. Both of their bodies are from the tower but the souls are from outside.

Baam's two parents are Irregulars. Nameless was thrown in a pond.

 

[maverickframe_19]

Baam's two parents are Irregulars. Nameless was thrown in a pond.

LOL

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

Baam's two parents are Irregulars. Nameless was thrown in a pond.

Imagine being Enne having two irregular parents and still being less relevant than a girl thrown in a pond.

 

[white_light]

Nameless is female Baam. Both of their bodies are from the tower but the souls are from outside.

Baam's body went outside the tower and re-entered as an irregular though, making his technically in-tower body meaningless.

 

[kkck]

Forgot to reply since I was busy but @kkck @Epic_Rider Arlen is an Irregular so she being in Nameless's body would be a nerf. Nameless's body isn't superior to Arlen, it's her ability to host her soul that makes her stand out.

Bam's body was born and died in the tower, was presumably taken out of the tower and then he returned. If arlen possesses nameless princess the situation is comparable. Add to that, it's a big claim that a princesses' body would be a nerf to anyone. Even mago thought it was strong.

 

[white_light]

Bam's body was born and died in the tower, was presumably taken out of the tower and then he returned. If arlen possesses nameless princess the situation is comparable. Add to that, it's a big claim that a princesses' body would be a nerf to anyone. Even mago thought it was strong.

It's a nerf in a sense that the body's capabilities are capped, no?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

It's a nerf in a sense that the body's capabilities are capped, no?

I doubt that. Otherwise Valhalla which was made from Amizu should not have been able to kill Gussy. Guardians are also the towerborns yet they are vastly stronger than FLs. I think the main thing tower recognizes is soul.

 

[white_light]

I doubt that. Otherwise Valhalla which was made from Amizu should not have been able to kill Gussy. Guardians are also the towerborns yet they are vastly stronger than FLs. I think the main thing tower recognizes is soul.

I mean, could Valhalla kill Gustang in a Mustang? I kinda doubt it.

But to be fair all of this is conjecture, I know nothing.

I'm not sure if I would classify guardians as towerborn though, considering how they are the people who put metaphorical shackles on towerborns in the first place.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

I doubt that. Otherwise Valhalla which was made from Amizu should not have been able to kill Gussy. Guardians are also the towerborns yet they are vastly stronger than FLs. I think the main thing tower recognizes is soul.

This is why Nameless wanted Mago. Having the soul of Mago would apparently let her ignore the immortality and I suppose any limits.

"Before I came up to this floor, I was told that irregulars like Me and Mago... have the power to kill the heads of the great families and the king. It makes sense that she needs Mago's powers since she said she wants to kill King Zahard." - chapter 53

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

I mean, could Valhalla kill Gustang in a Mustang? I kinda doubt it.

But to be fair all of this is conjecture, I know nothing.

I'm not sure if I would classify guardians as towerborn though, considering how they are the people who put metaphorical shackles on towerborns in the first place.

Yes Traumerei said it can kill Gussy when he first summoned her.

Towerborns are simply anything that is born inside the tower. Guardians don't shackle them. It's the tower. Guardians provide them a contract through which they are able to use shinsu.

 

[white_light]

I don't see why the soul would somehow de-limit a person but I'm ready to eat my words if it happens to be the case.
I mean, melting Baam with acid and turning him into a weapon/key for the thorn fragments or whatever Karaka wanted to do earlier seems way more insane of a concept than having a powerful soul.

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Yes Traumerei said it can kill Gussy when he first summoned her.

Towerborns are simply anything that is born inside the tower. Guardians don't shackle them. It's the tower. Guardians provide them a contract through which they are able to use shinsu.

I'll re-check that later, thanks.

Pretty sure the second floor guardian calls the contract a shackle for towerborn.

Edit: Träumerei says "Valhalla. You may kill him." (Webtoon translation) which I'd read more as smack talk rather than a definite "this thing kills immortals like FLs", but then again, it's part of Traums abilities so it should be able to, but that then has nothing to do with Amizu herself.
Well that got annoyingly complicated, my poor headcanon.