Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[white_light]

Valhala can kill gustang but he will be revived those guys aren't invulnerable but valhala cannot kill gustang for the good so after valahala kills gustang then traumerei uses his disconnection and erases him that's the agenda

That seems awfully contrived, I don't see why Valhalla shouldn't be able to end Gustang with Träumereis powers.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

She is saying that Valhalla can do what she can do because she is Traumerei's strongest Shinheuh. Ameuz being inside it doesn't matter that much when we know that all Shinheuhs, without exception are from the Tower. Traumerei's Seven Personal Shinheuhs are his strongest and Valhalla is his strongest one, it had the most of his power among the Water Dragons he had.

Traumerei, the Irregular, ultimate Anima is what makes them special.

I get both u and white are saying that all shinhuehs are born inside the tower.

What I am saying is even though they are born inside they each have their own tier. Like for instance TT, Regent, CC is here.

Valhalla is the only one said to be made up of Amizu. So my point is had Traumerei not use Amizu on Valhalla she might at best be Rapid level. Strong but not that strong enough for Gussy a FL to run away in that battle. We saw how he was avoiding Valhalla and couldn't injure her.

Like if 2 shinhueh were to be created using Anne and Yuri, Anne one would be strongest

 

[O_n_Sly]

Soo Wingtree was sanctioned by Eduan and Shinn

 

[Strange]

That seems awfully contrived, I don't see why Valhalla shouldn't be able to end Gustang with Träumereis powers.

Maybe you are right i have zero clue but we are just assuming here that , but if valhala is indeed part of traumerei then it could be the case that indeed valhala can kill gustang because valhala is traumerei hismelf or another part of him

 

[LeafDragoon]

One thing is clear now the main story is all about V and Arlene. Baam was killed by Zahard it was V who was reincarnated into his son dead body and soul splits in two parts one with no memory and other with full powers..

If Bam is like Dorothy and his soul is hollow then that means he and V have separate souls.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Do you think the rifts go to the incomplete side?

I'm thinking it extra possible right now

 

[undecimber]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

Thank you for providing these translations every week!

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Also damn, the 4 V 1 was about to feed generations and cause some massive cope but SIU being SIU of course had to postpone the inevitable.

Woulda been a heck of a season finale.

All I can do is wait again for the formation to return and maybe with even more contenders.

 

[kkck]

So now I am wondering several things:

1.- Does V know arlen has a plan to return? His plan to avenge her sounds odd if she has the means to return.
2.- Does rachel know arlen can return?
3.- What's the plot between rachel and nameless going to be?

This chapter made me think of the hidden floor when rachel assumed the icarus persona. She was much stronger and prettier. And she was distraught when she lost that form which she even attempted to take back to the normal tower. Rachel seems to have gotten a bit stronger during the previous timeskip with gustang but ultimately still failed to achieve her goals. And with the introduction of nameless and her potential as a vessel for arlen, in a similar way to how bam is a vessel for v... It's also curious that nameless was said to be born in a well or something like that, it doesn't sound too disimilar to bam's cave. If we also consider that fug trained bam to use V's techniques in order to prepare him as a suitable vessel... is it possible that rachel is planning to steal arlen's vessel and somehow transfer her soul to it? I used to think rachel's goal was to steal's bam's fate as protagonist but as the story unfolds it's clearer and clearer that said fate was BS and bam has essentially been tricked. Rachel never wanted bam's fate, she probably understood more than anyone it was BS thanks to her connection with arlen. The fate she wants to highjack is arlen's by taking over her body and power.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Tbh I feel Arlene didn't went crazy. The fact that she could make a deal with OG tells me she wasn't insane. It was just a facade. V's real name is also hidden. Maybe he was the one who had connections to OG and he told her about it. He is the most mysterious and important character in the tower's history and future.

 

[LeafDragoon]

So now I am wondering several things:

1.- Does V know arlen has a plan to return? His plan to avenge her sounds odd if she has the means to return.
2.- Does rachel know arlen can return?
3.- What's the plot between rachel and nameless going to be?

This chapter made me think of the hidden floor when rachel assumed the icarus persona. She was much stronger and prettier. And she was distraught when she lost that form which she even attempted to take back to the normal tower. Rachel seems to have gotten a bit stronger during the previous timeskip with gustang but ultimately still failed to achieve her goals. And with the introduction of nameless and her potential as a vessel for arlen, in a similar way to how bam is a vessel for v... It's also curious that nameless was said to be born in a well or something like that, it doesn't sound too disimilar to bam's cave. If we also consider that fug trained bam to use V's techniques in order to prepare him as a suitable vessel... is it possible that rachel is planning to steal arlen's vessel and somehow transfer her soul to it? I used to think rachel's goal was to steal's bam's fate as protagonist but as the story unfolds it's clearer and clearer that said fate was BS and bam has essentially been tricked. Rachel never wanted bam's fate, she probably understood more than anyone it was BS thanks to her connection with arlen. The fate she wants to highjack is arlen's by taking over her body and power.

I wouldn't say that Rachel has gotten stronger at all since the only new power she displayed in S3 was using the bracelet to use Shinwonryu. We aren't even sure if she can form a bang without it. You would think we would have gotten to see more of her (and Wangnan's) growth in S3 but SIU decided to focus on the greater plot with the war.

I'm disappointed we didn't even get to see what her wishes were although it's implied that the 1st one was "I want to get stronger" because of the scene transitioning to Bam telling Evankell that. I was hoping she would how to use Shinsu from Gustang since he is supposed to be the most knowledgeable about shinsu in the tower, maybe even become a daughter figure since her relationship with Bam is similar to Gustang's relationship with Blossom. Gustang was said to be Blossom's greatest Hater but also her greatest admirer.

 

[kkck]

I wouldn't say that Rachel has gotten stronger at all since the only new power she displayed in S3 was using the bracelet to use Shinwonryu. We aren't even sure if she can form a bang without it. You would think we would have gotten to see more of her (and Wangnan's) growth in S3 but SIU decided to focus on the greater plot with the war.

I'm disappointed we didn't even get to see what her wishes were although it's implied that the 1st one was "I want to get stronger" because of the scene transitioning to Bam telling Evankell that. I was hoping she would how to use Shinsu from Gustang since he is supposed to be the most knowledgeable about shinsu in the tower, maybe even become a daughter figure since her relationship with Bam is similar to Gustang's relationship with Blossom. Gustang was said to be Blossom's greatest Hater but also her greatest admirer.

I think she most likely got stronger but not even remotely in the same magnitude as bam through the timeskip or even the gang following their acquiring of shinsoo attributes. She probably went from really weak for a regular at that floor to strong for a regular at that floor.

 

[Strange]

There is no fate crap and that's why urek is so sure that no one can control fate at all

Fate makes no sense after V had said the following " If Zahard hears me being here " / he also was afraid that traumerei would come back and he'd shit on him cuz poor luslec had no chance against him he was sure about that and if there is thing called Fate then V shouldn't care about Zahard hearing him LoL which is funny how ppl believe that its all fate then how come V is afraid of zahard ? where is fate there ? wasn't it all planned by outside god and it shall control fate right? but it seem otherwise


Outside god is indeed brainless .. and that guy couldn't calculate that if V is indeed his chosen then he should have made it clear that V shouldn't care about Zahard at all yet he cares and he also cared about traumerei LoL but there is no fate crap at all and fate could be real case only in the case if outside god wanted urek to be there because without urek baam would get sqaushed on the fod by red thryssa and without urek there would be no baek climbing above and tons of things wouldn't happen and baam would squashed on fod by mago + aubrion emperor also


and also it makes perfect sense to say that rachel isn't any kind of irregular the girl is towerborn 100% she is telling us like i was in darkness blabla and wanted to see stars yet what the hell ? aren't you on outside ? full of stars ? why the hell you need to climb tower to see stupid stars ? go and see stars yourself Lol but there is deep meaning in rachels worlds cuz the girl knows about the tower much more than she knows about the outside cuz she isn't any kind of irregular , only towerborn can be a such weakling without any talent LoL


Baeks power unleashes hidden monsters and opens doors that are closed and all that won't be surprised if rachel was trapped in one of those wells that was opened by baek as one of the korean guy suggested , but you guys think that zahard got his symbol cuz he had seen it on the outside ? i doubt that , he cannot be such fraud and the guy had zero power on the outside so where he'd see any kind of power or any symbol like that ? and who the hell would put a symbol in a cave ? where nobody sees that ?



Funny thing is also how the top of the tower has something like a shining star ontop of it as if there was some dude with shiny powers LoL it makes perfect sense if we look at ureks spin off where it says that Light created time/space/movement and all that is there




Also Tower of god reminds me of babel story which just means Gate of the God(s) in hebrew / ppl built the tower to reach the gods in the past .

 

[Realfan]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

Thanks you shin

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

All these beings which were sealed could have been on V and arlen's team against zahard and FHs and were sealed once V and arlen lost.

 

[Realfan]

Urek's conversation with Baek is also something so harsh and yet profound but simple.

From the way he speaks by telling Baek does he think he's someone that important for Destiny to be defining his life like that, it would sound like he's talking down on him basically saying he's basically irrelevant but unironically so he is saying that he is irrelevant.

Makes sense because Urek does know what people born with a Destiny attached to them are like, heck he literally was the one who appointed Kings.

But at the same time it's basically telling Baek to cut himself lose from the actions of blaming Destiny for his actions or his mistakes because he's actually free of it in the first place.

And then of course going on to boast that if Destiny really was in play then he had the power to rewrite and defeat it, good lord this was a beautiful segment that ties in all too well with Urek's nature.

He's not against Destiny nor does he demean it's existence by claiming that there aren't people who are really that important and born under the influence of destiny, but Baek is simply not one of the people with a predetermined Path, he's been given a choice and the freedom to write his own.

Finally we agree on something, glad to know we can make peace at the end of story.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Ngl all these sealing theme tog has and so many characters being sealed, it's a shame we don't have a family which focus in sealing.

 

[kkck]

So that bit when urek said he'd kill whoever gives baek a fate... Do we interpret that as urek being willing to kill an axis over baek?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Lmao UM realizing FLs don't give empty threats like he gives to shinies and others and decided to comply with them was hilarious. Something that he truly needs to work on

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Lmao UM realizing FLs don't give empty threats like he gives to shinies and others and decided to comply with them was hilarious. Something that he truly needs to work on

Pretty sure it was the opposite there, he said if they both become his subordinates he's gonna consider it.

Did we read different chapters bro?


He still gives zero fucks about them or their threat.