Games Mafia Game 142 - McHelpers - Game End

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James Rye

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maybe quack doctor
Sure, maybe. But again, the doc has no idea of their sanity aka they don't know if they are a sane, insane, naive or now Quack Doc. Though maybe the Quack Doc is supposed to replace the naive? Or be like the "paranoid" Version of Det so both roles got 4 sanities.

In any case we, and the Quack doc, won't know till the Illusion dies due contact or lynch. So until that happens we should rather assume the kill either failed, which would be nice, some got recruited, which would be bad, or someone got poisoned.

Also if someone turns out to be an Illusion then we should see at what night they became one so that would help figure out who's the Quack among us if they come out with their target list. And if there is a Quack then chances are good we got 2 doc players, one a quack and one being the real deal.
 

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hmmm votekill sam for now


will change depending on any new potential reveal, not trusting , that end of day move is weird
Why are both you and Teubs emotional and voting so early into the phase???
 

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Is this because Mbappe plays in six hours???
 

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Hmmm, come to think of it.
@Copy Panda If a "Quack Doctor" dies, do they die like a regular sane/insane/naive doc aka just their role "Doctor" gets revealed and not their sanity or do they die as a "Quack Doctor"? Also do all the Illusions "pop" the moment the "Quack doctor" is no more?
 

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Chat do I really push for an Erin lynch regularly
Yes of course
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James can you maybe analyze behaviors not pad postcount with mechanics
 

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NO KEEL? Blocked mafia, illusionist?
You forgot to add recruit and poison to that list of potential reasons as for why we had no deaths after night 1.
 

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Then it can't be Spirit bomb if that happens to be the case. Otherwise we would have a dead Spirit bomb reveal today.
That's how this role works, right? Or does it turn into an Illusion together with their Killer? @Copy Panda



But wouldn't Slyth have been the target due last vote on the bomb?
can you reiterate the question without context, are you asking whether spirit bomb turns themselves into an illusion upon exploding?
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Hmmm, come to think of it.
@Copy Panda If a "Quack Doctor" dies, do they die like a regular sane/insane/naive doc aka just their role "Doctor" gets revealed and not their sanity or do they die as a "Quack Doctor"? Also do all the Illusions "pop" the moment the "Quack doctor" is no more?
theyre just doc, like any doc or det or sanity variant role would flip
 

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Yes of course
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James can you maybe analyze behaviors not pad postcount with mechanics
I like mechanics.

For me, I wasn't there day 1. So reading it backwards it felt pretty weird. Like Burger talk and football talk. Like chitter chatter. Then a few hints here and there and ofc Nash day 1 hider reveal which I don't buy for a second. No way an actual townie hider turns their role useless and just into potential collateral damage from day 1. I'm pretty sure Nash got another role than hider.

I also dunno about Style's early vote on Nash to then move it to Kako due the hider claim and Kako not being forward enough. Same for Sam's and Nash's last minute votelocks on Erin to save Kako's bomb claim. Felt like virtue signaling to me.
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can you reiterate the question without context, are you asking whether spirit bomb turns themselves into an illusion upon exploding?
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theyre just doc, like any doc or det or sanity variant role would flip
Yes. Does a Bomb become an Illusion upon death? Except maybe when lynched.

Dang. So that means if a Quack dies then their Illusions don't "die" with them? They stick around after the Quack's death? Otherwise we could easily tell which doc is a Quack and which isn't.
 

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My target last night was Sam btw.
 

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I certainly don't like how Style voted, but otherwise do trust him due to the ballsy D1 claim
 

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Yes. Does a Bomb become an Illusion upon death? Except maybe when lynched.

Dang. So that means if a Quack dies then their Illusions don't "die" with them? They stick around after the Quack's death? Otherwise we could easily tell which doc is a Quack and which isn't.
Spirit Bomb simply dies, like a regular Bomb, only their target becomes an illusion rather than dying.

And correct, unlike SS, QDoc illusions don't auto perish (nor do they hypothetically count towards SS wincon)
 

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I certainly don't like how Style voted, but otherwise do trust him due to the ballsy D1 claim
Yeah, I think he's acceptable atm. He went out on a limb by putting himself out there like that, and Nash vouched for them too so there's that.
 

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My target last night was Sam btw.
Interesting choice given Sam was the sole passive claimer so far. Does that mean you trusted his claim or you didn't trusted it?
 

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Kakoha claimed passive too
Oh, she did? I only remember the bomb claim before the day end. And claiming a role ain't the same as claiming an aspect of said role.
 

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Combined hints/claims:
Teub: new role, hints with sugababes- push my buttons (#5); “doug is the biggest man on campus” (#45); active (#66); targeted Sam N1 (#271)
Gry: My role will most likely be ineffective and likely do nothing (#6); “used my role N1 but am regretting my target already.” (#227); targeted someone who played last game. (#239)
Kakoha: Passive (#8) Kamikaze Bomb
Stylether: Active (#9)
Brandish: Active, had it before or lied about having it before when mafia. My belief is this role appears clutch yet is never clutch. (#18); I defs lied about my role before as mafia. Can't remember if I had it. (#193)
Sam: Passive, had my role before (#24)
Nash: claims Hider (#38)
AP: anyways, I'm your Waffle Fries, I'm Tasty, I'm coated in Salt, Actively Seasoned to have fill your tummy, or give your the shits (#67)
Erin: as for my role i think i had it already, (#69); I can just for now i am toxine , i have a decent role but nothing special (#160); didn’t use her role N1 (#238)
Marm: My role is a staple, a true (dutch) classic - just like the very cute McKroket. (#73)
Dd: Active (#75)
Holt: I’m also an active role. Hint is someone connected to inter Miami (football) wise (#81)
James: Active, used his role N1 (#225)

Day 2 updates:
James (#225): Active, used his role N1,
Gry (#227): “used my role N1 but am regretting my target already.”
Erin (#238): didn’t use her role
Gry (#239): targeted someone who played last game.
Teub (#271): targeted Sam

^ I think that's everything meaningful so far? Combined stuff from both days, and then a section specifically for what happened in the first hour today
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Oh, she did? I only remember the bomb claim before the day end. And claiming a role ain't the same as claiming an aspect of said role.
He did yeah, very early on.
 
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