Chapter New Prince of Tennis Chapter 477 (END)

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(I assume it's Christmas, although the timing doesn't really make much sense)
A note on this, Ch 173 shows a report that Akuto printed out with a date on it, December 18, 20XX. If the paper is printed the same day as when it's shown, then that means the tournament starts Dec 19. Counting the days that progress, then Finals occurs on Dec 28 (if I counted right). So seeing them celebrate Christmas would only be weird in the sense that it's a few days too late, but it would also make sense that they put off the celebrations until after the tournament finished.
(We also see Antonio write the date December 2[rest is cut-off] in the twins diary)

Edit: Saw someone else also count it, I think I misinterpreted "in 2 days" on one part, so it's probably more likely Dec 27 when Finals occurs.
 
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One thing I just notice, which is another thing that makes the French team potentially even more impressive.

Ryoma's Glowing Shot and Super Sweet Spot was emphasize earlier in this chapter. Considering Konomi make it Fuji, who is directly shown how impressive his technique is even someone of Ryoga's level and take several games from Ryoga, speak and worry about that shot show how high Prince level is (Although Prince need to take several attempt to do the SSS and obviously isn't as nearly impress as Ryoga, but I highly doubt anyone consider Prince to be Ryoga level anyways so that doesn't matter much).

Also, another thing to note is Tezuka. It's actually "weird" in retrospect how much he gain if he throw away being pillar of Seigaku. If he manage to do this in the National Final, then Seigaku probably could win 3-1 before Ryoma even play. I understand the argument of how he would not being able to enjoy tennis and can't get PoP until the sequel though
 

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One thing I just notice, which is another thing that makes the French team potentially even more impressive.

Ryoma's Glowing Shot and Super Sweet Spot was emphasize earlier in this chapter. Considering Konomi make it Fuji, who is directly shown how impressive his technique is even someone of Ryoga's level and take several games from Ryoga, speak and worry about that shot show how high Prince level is (Although Prince need to take several attempt to do the SSS and obviously isn't as nearly impress as Ryoga, but I highly doubt anyone consider Prince to be Ryoga level anyways so that doesn't matter much).

Also, another thing to note is Tezuka. It's actually "weird" in retrospect how much he gain if he throw away being pillar of Seigaku. If he manage to do this in the National Final, then Seigaku probably could win 3-1 before Ryoma even play. I understand the argument of how he would not being able to enjoy tennis and can't get PoP until the sequel though
I hate that next World Cup is 3 years from now instead of 2. That means Zeus (1st year HS now) will graduate, and wont be able to particpate in Tokyo WC.
I think 3rd year Zeus can potentially reach Camus/Ralph/Amadeus Level.

That will mean Ryoma and Kintarou are 1st year HS already. Instead of 3rd year MS.
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Btw I still don't get why the next wc is in 3 years if the latest one was 2 years ago, unless I missed something.
Maybe referencing irl Covid lockdown worldwide.

Suppose this happened in the 2019 WC. And there is some kind of lockdown in late 2019 or 2020 in their universe. Then it can be 3years before the next WC.
 

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On the 3 years vs 2 years, I'm currently theorising that it's usually played every 3 years BUT they did an exception in this world cup (which also had the MSer rule as another one time thing). Then for the next WC both rules were scrapped.
 

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On the 3 years vs 2 years, I'm currently theorising that it's usually played every 3 years BUT they did an exception in this world cup (which also had the MSer rule as another one time thing). Then for the next WC both rules were scrapped.
I guess Konomi will explain it.

Btw, why did he ended it like that?

Does that mean he is planning to make a new arc about Tokyo?

Remember, he already foreshadowed it during Atobe's insights.
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On the 3 years vs 2 years, I'm currently theorising that it's usually played every 3 years BUT they did an exception in this world cup (which also had the MSer rule as another one time thing). Then for the next WC both rules were scrapped.
Another theory: What if they adjusted cause of the Pro Tour?

This is the first time Pro players were allowed to play in U17 WC right?

But Volk, Medanore, Amadeus, etc.m are shown/implied playing last world cup in France.

Maybe, they were not Pros yet?

But Volk was already a Pro for a long time. Was Volk not in the last WC Germany Champion team?.🤔
 

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I just realize WoK still doesn't have any confirmation whatsoever to master Beast aura even now lmao.

Meanwhile, Ryoma who was directly highly doubt by many to be able use PoP back the beginning, was shown to be able to use it whenever all along.

And spin drive is Konomi way of shutting up anyone who think these two brothers isn't a level above the rest I feel.

Volk and Byoudonin isn't 16 times or 256 times or 256*16 times or 256*16*16 times above Echizen brothers before this match. Since it's the last match Konomi just give middle finger to scaling entirely.
Not only they got no confirmation but it was confirmed they didn't get it. They were selected to the team but they rejected their spots to keep training to achieve Beast Synchro (and I guess their spots went to Kirihara and... Ryoma, so overall it was great for Japan). Konomi said he wants to draw this so we might get to see this in the future (in a format like the pair puris or the next captain stories).

Tbf we now know that Kintarou is the only player with perfect TnK control. IIRC Ryoma said he lost to Tokugawa because of that? so that one point has an asterisk lol

Volk and Byoudouin can probably match to the brothers... if they don't get consumed. Volk can tornado or time loop the siblings and Byoudouin somehow managed to stay at his level. Same applies to Medanore and Tokugawa I guess. But yes Ryoma ends the series amongst the strongest.
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I mean it's pretty obvious the MS situation was only used for this tournament. Because most of the characters fans actually liked are MSs.
Sort of. Mangakas do change their mind a lot. The MSers were always going to be in the NT, but Konomi changed his mind as to how it'd go because HE liked the HSers. So he went from having a single 1st string with mostly MSers, to having 2 teams, to having one huge team.

The one change he did because of fan demand was probably Ryoma going back to Japan, and he actually called this a mistake that made him rework the story. Maybe the Echizens were supposed to be the final bosses or something like that.
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Ah, also, isn't the "Ryoga is now working as a coach. He tells his students that he'll play a serious match against them once they become stronger." is actually a bit cruel? He never lost his ability to devour another players. He basically is telling bunch of kids he will end their tennis career once they are stronger if they don't have the motivation to continue like Ralph
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I mean... I would consider Spain team in the final overall stronger than Germany team, and I'm pretty sure Japan team in the final can also fight Japan team in semi final pretty evenly too. That is even with Oni/Byoudonin leading the semi final team.
I skipped it because the translation got super long but the little kids ask Ryoga to play with them (like Ryoma used to do). I reckon he's just being nice to them rather thsn threatening the kids lol.

With Spain having Ryoga, Romeo the Mser with the most accolades in Europe, the no.1 pair, and the "strongest shield and spear" in a single player, it's hard not to see them as at least as strong as Germany.
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I told ya guys.

Konomi is putting future scenes in order for him to have an option to continue the story.

He can still go to Tokyo U19 World Cup arc into Pro Arc.

Tokyo arc will be easy to predict though. Since we know both Japan and Germany will make the finals.

Pro Arc has a lot of potential. We know Tezuka and possibly Ryoma will go pro.

Then we also saw players like Tokugawa, Medanore, Ralph,, Volk, Byo,, Julio/Silva go pro.
I don't think we'll get PoT 3. Konomi has health struggles and has already given us over 900 chapters and several fanbooks. He's also like one of the richest people in Japan, he's just doing this for the love of the game.

Gotta leave some things to mystery as well.

A final fanbook and One shot stories though? I can totally see it.
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I like that the series ended with 3 of the 4 main "bosses" Ryoma had to go through in PoT. Only missing Yukimura who at least got a speech bubble.

If I were to guess the final lineup it'd be something like:

S3: Atobe
D2: Yukimura/Sanada
S2: Akutsu
D1: Kintarou/Kirihara (to copy the 2 chasers doubles)
S1: Ryoma

With all of them being rivals of Ryoma or Ryoma himself.

I guess Konomi will explain it.

Btw, why did he ended it like that?

Does that mean he is planning to make a new arc about Tokyo?

Remember, he already foreshadowed it during Atobe's insights.
Just a cool teaser, a ton of mangas end up like that (like Eyeshield or Haikyuu). Doesn't mean we'll actually see the match.
 

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Honestly Tezuka must be a complete monster since the Germany roster without Volk and the other seniors seems lackluster.
 

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Honestly Tezuka must be a complete monster since the Germany roster without Volk and the other seniors seems lackluster.
Konomi can easily buff Siegfried, Frankensteiner , and especially Bertie.

And yes. Tezuka is a future Wimbledon Grandslam Champion.

Volk never won any grandslam or masters in pro tour as far as we know.

At this point, I will nit be surprised if Konomi will imply that Tezuka will surpass Volk in the future.
 

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Konomi can easily buff Siegfried, Frankensteiner , and especially Bertie.

And yes. Tezuka is a future Wimbledon Grandslam Champion.

Volk never won any grandslam or masters in pro tour as far as we know.

At this point, I will nit be surprised if Konomi will imply that Tezuka will surpass Volk in the future.
So either Ryoma has to retire or Tezuka has to be good enough to actually beat Ryoma in a grand slam. So either way he should easily surpass Volk.
 

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Ryoga unlock PoP?, Japan would be OP... i wish they will give us another Arc but i don't think we get it , all good things must come to an end .
 
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Ryoga unlock PoP?, Japan would be OP... i wish they will give us another Arc but i don't think we get it .
It just says he got engulfed in a Light of Hope. It may be a unique TnK you get from being on a pinch against this new Ryoma. It worked very briefly tho.
 

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So either Ryoma has to retire or Tezuka has to be good enough to actually beat Ryoma in a grand slam. So either way he should easily surpass Volk.
Ryoma could just not have participated in Wimbledon.

Ryoma is teased to be participating in US Open instead of Wimbledon in anime at POT.
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It just says he got engulfed in a Light of Hope. It may be a unique TnK you get from being on a pinch against this new Ryoma. It worked very briefly tho.
Btw. I don't get the match.

How did Ryoma counter consume?

Ryoma became Nanjirou in second set. Became semi immune to Consume. And then it ended.

Third set. Ryoma Samurai became immune to consume again?
 

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Not only they got no confirmation but it was confirmed they didn't get it. They were selected to the team but they rejected their spots to keep training to achieve Beast Synchro (and I guess their spots went to Kirihara and... Ryoma, so overall it was great for Japan). Konomi said he wants to draw this so we might get to see this in the future (in a format like the pair puris or the next captain stories).

Tbf we now know that Kintarou is the only player with perfect TnK control. IIRC Ryoma said he lost to Tokugawa because of that? so that one point has an asterisk lol

Volk and Byoudouin can probably match to the brothers... if they don't get consumed. Volk can tornado or time loop the siblings and Byoudouin somehow managed to stay at his level. Same applies to Medanore and Tokugawa I guess. But yes Ryoma ends the series amongst the strongest.
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Sort of. Mangakas do change their mind a lot. The MSers were always going to be in the NT, but Konomi changed his mind as to how it'd go because HE liked the HSers. So he went from having a single 1st string with mostly MSers, to having 2 teams, to having one huge team.

The one change he did because of fan demand was probably Ryoma going back to Japan, and he actually called this a mistake that made him rework the story. Maybe the Echizens were supposed to be the final bosses or something like that.
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I skipped it because the translation got super long but the little kids ask Ryoga to play with them (like Ryoma used to do). I reckon he's just being nice to them rather thsn threatening the kids lol.

With Spain having Ryoga, Romeo the Mser with the most accolades in Europe, the no.1 pair, and the "strongest shield and spear" in a single player, it's hard not to see them as at least as strong as Germany.
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I don't think we'll get PoT 3. Konomi has health struggles and has already given us over 900 chapters and several fanbooks. He's also like one of the richest people in Japan, he's just doing this for the love of the game.

Gotta leave some things to mystery as well.

A final fanbook and One shot stories though? I can totally see it.
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I like that the series ended with 3 of the 4 main "bosses" Ryoma had to go through in PoT. Only missing Yukimura who at least got a speech bubble.

If I were to guess the final lineup it'd be something like:

S3: Atobe
D2: Yukimura/Sanada
S2: Akutsu
D1: Kintarou/Kirihara (to copy the 2 chasers doubles)
S1: Ryoma

With all of them being rivals of Ryoma or Ryoma himself.



Just a cool teaser, a ton of mangas end up like that (like Eyeshield or Haikyuu). Doesn't mean we'll actually see the match.
Would not Tezuka and Atobe be S1 going by Atobe's future vision? Since they're both the future captain and would be naturally placed last, so I see Ryoma being S2 and Akutsu at S3.
 

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Ryoma could just not have participated in Wimbledon.

Ryoma is teased to be participating in US Open instead of Wimbledon in anime at POT.
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Btw. I don't get the match.

How did Ryoma counter consume?

Ryoma became Nanjirou in second set. Became semi immune to Consume. And then it ended.

Third set. Ryoma Samurai became immune to consume again?
I need to re-check past chapters but I'd guess this new Ryoma is just built different lol
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Would not Tezuka and Atobe be S1 going by Atobe's future vision? Since they're both the future captain and would be naturally placed last, so I see Ryoma being S2 and Akutsu at S3.
I think they are both S3 to mirror the Nationals' finals (Tezuka going first to lead the way). And Germany has a hidden weapon to play Ryoma.
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Fwiw Atobe is the MSer captain in this World Cup and played S3, too.
 

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I need to re-check past chapters but I'd guess this new Ryoma is just built different lol
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I think they are both S3 to mirror the Nationals' finals (Tezuka going first to lead the way). And Germany has a hidden weapon to play Ryoma.
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Fwiw Atobe is the MSer captain in this World Cup and played S3, too.
Yeah. What if Germany has a new prodigy.

That will be better.

Also, Maybe Akutsu/Sanada can play doubles? Like they did in the past.

I wonder who will be Bertie's new partner. Siegfried or Frankensteiner?

Then, who will be the singles player between Sieg and Frank.

Back in chapter 324. Their next strongest Mser after Sieg/Frank is Barnabas Wolf. (He won 20+games. While Sieg/Frank won 36. So big gap)

Btw. After Tezuka. Who would be the next strongest player from Germany in Singles? (Except a mystery player)

Is it Bertie? But isn't he implied to be weak in singles. And only good in doubles?
 
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Bertie is probably ok in singles? He's the one that say Tezuka and Romeo are on par with each other as the strongest MS in this tournament so he's probably weaker than them
 

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Bertie was mentioned to be "one of the most annoying players to play against in the circuit". I think it's noteworthy that it's specifically him rather than having this statement for the Pro Doubles as a whole, so I reckon he does play singles as a Pro, too.

That said I think it was also mentioned that he was pretty selfless and never cared about reaching the top on his own?

I'd keep him playing doubles, anyway. You got a star doubles player, might as well use him there.

We don't know how much players will grow, what unkown players will pop up, what players might move to Germany like Tezuka did, etc. It's stated that they are the best so it doesn't really matter if the current MSers appear to be a bit underwhelming.
 

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Bertie was mentioned to be "one of the most annoying players to play against in the circuit". I think it's noteworthy that it's specifically him rather than having this statement for the Pro Doubles as a whole, so I reckon he does play singles as a Pro, too.

That said I think it was also mentioned that he was pretty selfless and never cared about reaching the top on his own?

I'd keep him playing doubles, anyway. You got a star doubles player, might as well use him there.

We don't know how much players will grow, what unkown players will pop up, what players might move to Germany like Tezuka did, etc. It's stated that they are the best so it doesn't really matter if the current MSers appear to be a bit underwhelming.
Who do you think will be better? Siegfried or Frankensteiner?

Anyways. Other countries even had weaker Msers.

USA have literal weak Msers. Ryoma walked over them.

Spain will not have Ryoga anymore. And they will only left with Romeo and Seda. (Ryoga is semi retired. And idk if Romeo would want to play again)

Switzerland may have more talent and depth. But we only know Henri.

France at least have Prince and Osval.
 

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Who do you think will be better? Siegfried or Frankensteiner?

Anyways. Other countries even had weaker Msers.

USA have literal weak Msers. Ryoma walked over them.

Spain will not have Ryoga anymore. And they will only left with Romeo and Seda. (Ryoga is semi retired. And idk if Romeo would want to play again)

Switzerland may have more talent and depth. But we only know Henri.

France at least have Prince and Osval.
Romeo will definitely play again: Romeo, Tezuka and Atobe are the new big three of the U-17.
 

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Who do you think will be better? Siegfried or Frankensteiner?

Anyways. Other countries even had weaker Msers.

USA have literal weak Msers. Ryoma walked over them.

Spain will not have Ryoga anymore. And they will only left with Romeo and Seda. (Ryoga is semi retired. And idk if Romeo would want to play again)

Switzerland may have more talent and depth. But we only know Henri.

France at least have Prince and Osval.
Probably Siegfried? Tezuka pushed him to evolve so much. I do think Frankensteiner is pretty underrated, though. The accuracy he showed against Tokugawa/Yukimura was like the vest we've seen.

Ryoma only played the bottom ranked HSers in USA, right? It's the equivalent of him beating Hakamada. It's not like he wouldn't beat the Japanese MSers too, anyway.
 
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