Conditional Gray Fullbuster and Gajeel Redfox vs. Mirajane Strauss

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At this point yeah Gray alone could stomp, though by what amount, unsure as Gray used strategy and elemental advantage to beat a DG.
This is who Gray was in Fairy Tail since the begin : strategist in battles, not the cheerleader we saw for 180 chapters in the Quest. Real Gray is back and I hope, will stay lol.

Devil Slayer Magic insta kill Mira if he goes without holding back and I don't think about the Glittering Ice. Glittering Ice can point break freeze the strongest armor in the 100YQ, perhaps with Dogramag : this ice can shatter Mardmole or Gajeel's in a blink, easier than Fire Dragon King Purgatory can.
 

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Mira is not just a demon. She is a demon with a takeover magic for demons. She is pretty much a perfect counter, Gray's magic is nothing for her, she will just take over his demon part and use it against him and for protection.
 

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No, at this point Mira can't do anything to even approach him :

how can she manage Fire Ice Made ?

How can she manage to resist the black blizzard with Devil Slayers' particules inside ? Or Ice Glittering ? Or the frozen Air ?

Gray is currently way above Mira.... Without holding back facing his beloved Mira, she is doom.
 

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I would say Mira takes this as she defeated someone who destroyed the true body of Aldoron. Tho I say Gajeel may be able to help as well.
 
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Gajeel gets macro and Gray gets low diffed as he himself had to wait for her to be heavily injured to get an extreme diff win. Better hope she doesn't get help from angel like he does juvia because it makes it even more obvious. Though i doubt mashima would ever write mira low diffing gajeel and gray but on paper she actually can given feats and hype.
 

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Gajeel gets macro and Gray gets low diffed as he himself had to wait for her to be heavily injured to get an extreme diff win. Better hope she doesn't get help from angel like he does juvia because it makes it even more obvious. Though i doubt mashima would ever write mira low diffing gajeel and gray but on paper she actually can given feats and hype.
She would get speed blitz before any macro nonsense
 

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She would get speed blitz before any macro nonsense
Lol no she won't. when have gray and gajeel ever blitzed anyone let alone someone who is vastly superior to them? And the fact that you believe, not only that they can blitz her, but that they can also hit her and knock her out before she can use macro or any of her powers is laughable. Now with Daemon's power it's more of a stomp.
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It's more likely she blitzes them with alegria since that actually has the feat of doing things like that i.e. heine and julliet

And apart from Gray being scared of her, Gajeel was toyed with by God Serena who was beaten by Jellal. The same Jellal who Natsu compared to Mira an arc or so before. And as I recall, Mashima said he keeps the guild internal rankings the same so Mira is still comparable to Erza especially in cases where it's guildmates vs guildmates and boosts/POF don't help. So vs Gray and Gajeel she does as well as Erza, Laxus or Jellal would do, maybe even better with her macro hax.

All of this support Mira >>>> Gray / Mira >>>> Gajeel so Mira should, with her hax powers be >> Gajeel + Gray on paper.

This thread also, IIRC was about depowered Gray and Gajeel without iron shadow DS mode and non darkness Gray.
 
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Natsu NEVER MADE this comparison.


"When you talk about the middle, usually that's where the strongest guys are.... "I bet Laxus or Mira is there...Jellal is fine too."

Lol stop attempting to rewrite history. Not only is that comparing them, it's comparing them in terms of power/skill and as interchangable, apex threats in the moment. This is Natsu i.e. the in verse powerscaler who is obsessed with rankings, especially guild rankings. After he beat Gajeel in another town he still throught the strongest would be in the middle so Laxus OR Mira

This further aligns with Mashima stating recently that the guild scaling remains the same.
 

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"When you talk about the middle, usually that's where the strongest guys are.... "I bet Laxus or Mira is there...Jellal is fine too."

Lol stop attempting to rewrite history. Not only is that comparing them, it's comparing them in terms of power/skill and as interchangable, apex threats in the moment. This is Natsu i.e. the in verse powerscaler who is obsessed with rankings, especially guild rankings. After he beat Gajeel in another town he still throught the strongest would be in the middle so Laxus OR Mira

This further aligns with Mashima stating recently that the guild scaling remains the same.
That's not a comparison, and they aren't interchangable you are just being dishonest and interpreting things with the ***

I can be as dishonest as you and equalize even Gajeel with them



Just mentioning the strongest guild members don't equalize them
 

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explain this part
Explain what? Laxus, Gildarts and Erza are their strongest guildmates... Mira is too. He doesn't have to mention all of them together all the time, and this fails to disprove what he said in the battle of FT 2. He also does not pick fights with Mira unless she's brainwashed unlike these 3. He was eager to fight her and Laxus when she was an enemy though...

You still have not disproved Natsu saying Mira or Laxus or Jellal would be in the middle city since the strongest are in the middle.
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That's not a comparison, and they aren't interchangable you are just being dishonest and interpreting things with the ***

I can be as dishonest as you and equalize even Gajeel with them



Just mentioning the strongest guild members don't equalize them
And you are being purposefully obtuse.

He said the strongest are in the middle so Mira or Laxus, Jellal is fine too. This is after Gajeel was beaten, checks notes * not in the middle city. So even by your own logic of using that panel, Gajeel is still below them according to Natsu. Gray even listed him last in his statement.

Natsu fought Gajeel in right hand city then said the strongest guys are usually in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal. LOL. Poor Gajeel

How am I being dishonest? What does OR mean? Funny thing is your panel actually is just mentioning the strongest members by listing them off while my panels are comparing them against one another and Gajeel indirectly.

It's not the same thing and you know that.

Gray says those guys won't go down easy. This says nothing about them being on the same level as one another.

Natsu says the strongest would be in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal after he beat Gajeel somewhere else so he's actually ranking them against one another and above Gajeel. If Gajeel were on their level or above Mira as you all fantasize, then Natsu would not believe that he would find the strongest enemy in the middle city. It means Natsu and the author think that Mira, Laxus and Jellal are comparable while Gajeel is below.

Then Mashima says the guild rankings remain the same and where was Mira ranked originally? Oh yeah on par with Erza. lol
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On topic. Gray is low diff material for BSS Mira as established in canon and, thus his contemporary Gajeel would be as well, moreso since it's likely macro works on him while we aren't sure if it works on Gray the devil slayer. Daemon's power also allows her to negate physical attacks which Gajeel notably uses.

Then, since halphas was canonized, with events from the key of the starry sky arc being mentioned in 100 years quest, Mira has access to Halphas which can low diff BSS and which outsped racer. This is probably the best s class speed feat we have. Lol but yeah Mira gets blitzed by them, the 2 guys weaker than her with no notably speed feats (one of them who is terrified of fighting her and struggled to take her while she was badly injured) :XD
 
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And as I recall, Mashima said he keeps the guild internal rankings the same so Mira is still comparable to Erza especially in cases where it's guildmates vs guildmates and boosts/POF don't help
But mashima-sensei also said explicitly that Erza is the strongest woman in the guild. You can't just keep picking and choosing what you want to use
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Then Mashima says the guild rankings remain the same and where was Mira ranked originally? Oh yeah on par with Erza. lol
This is being hypocritical at this point. Mashima-sensei literally said that erza is the strongest female character. At no point has Mira being portrayed to be on par with Erza. Mashima-sensei views Erza in a similar way to laxus and gildarts. Mira isn't even in this equation
 

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Explain what? Laxus, Gildarts and Erza are their strongest guildmates... Mira is too. He doesn't have to mention all of them together all the time, and this fails to disprove what he said in the battle of FT 2. He also does not pick fights with Mira unless she's brainwashed unlike these 3. He was eager to fight her and Laxus when she was an enemy though...

You still have not disproved Natsu saying Mira or Laxus or Jellal would be in the middle city since the strongest are in the middle.
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And you are being purposefully obtuse.

He said the strongest are in the middle so Mira or Laxus, Jellal is fine too. This is after Gajeel was beaten, checks notes * not in the middle city. So even by your own logic of using that panel, Gajeel is still below them according to Natsu. Gray even listed him last in his statement.

Natsu fought Gajeel in right hand city then said the strongest guys are usually in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal. LOL. Poor Gajeel

How am I being dishonest? What does OR mean? Funny thing is your panel actually is just mentioning the strongest members by listing them off while my panels are comparing them against one another and Gajeel indirectly.

It's not the same thing and you know that.

Gray says those guys won't go down easy. This says nothing about them being on the same level as one another.

Natsu says the strongest would be in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal after he beat Gajeel somewhere else so he's actually ranking them against one another and above Gajeel. If Gajeel were on their level or above Mira as you all fantasize, then Natsu would not believe that he would find the strongest enemy in the middle city. It means Natsu and the author think that Mira, Laxus and Jellal are comparable while Gajeel is below.

Then Mashima says the guild rankings remain the same and where was Mira ranked originally? Oh yeah on par with Erza. lol
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On topic. Gray is low diff material for BSS Mira as established in canon and, thus his contemporary Gajeel would be as well, moreso since it's likely macro works on him while we aren't sure if it works on Gray the devil slayer. Daemon's power also allows her to negate physical attacks which Gajeel notably uses.

Then, since halphas was canonized, with events from the key of the starry sky arc being mentioned in 100 years quest, Mira has access to Halphas which can low diff BSS and which outsped racer. This is probably the best s class speed feat we have. Lol but yeah Mira gets blitzed by them, the 2 guys weaker than her with no notably speed feats (one of them who is terrified of fighting her and struggled to take her while she was badly injured) :XD
Nothing in the statement made them equals or interchangable, this the worst kind of stretching people can do, interpret things that are not even implied. Even if they are truly the strongest the gap between them can be huge AND IT IS.

Mira fans are the only delusional that fantasize Mira being equal to Erza, Laxus and Jellal, just look at you. Mira couln't even beat Skullion in this same arc and you wanna wank her to be equal to people who can fodderize Skullion. I shouldn't even be wasting time with statements if the Skullion feat already exist, but the statement don't even have a single word that implies what you are claiming
 

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Nothing in the statement made them equals or interchangable, this the worst kind of stretching people can do, interpret things that are not even implied. Even if they are truly the strongest the gap between them can be huge AND IT IS.

Mira fans are the only delusional that fantasize Mira being equal to Erza, Laxus and Jellal, just look at you. Mira couln't even beat Skullion in this same arc and you wanna wank her to be equal to people who can fodderize Skullion. I shouldn't even be wasting time with statements if the Skullion feat already exist, but the statement don't even have a single word that implies what you are claiming
Keep telling yourself that. Natsu already debunked you and Mashima himself said he keeps the guild scaling the same.

Again, he said the strongest guys would be in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal would be there.

If Mira is below them then Natsu would exclude her since it would mean the strongest are not in the middle.

And apart from that the authorial intent is clear.

Manga /anime fandom are ridiculous. Natsu doesn't need to literally say Laxus is equal to Mira and Laxus you know?

Lol Erza was struggling with Kyria and thought she was strong. She was shocked Laxus beat her. In her second fight Erza with clear heart and Benizakura was matched then Benizakura was broken so Erza needed her enchantment. This same Erza tied with Laxus and this same Laxus low diffed Kyria.So Mira tying with Skullion in her weakest form says little.

Skullion low diffed DeS Gray then we saw him tie with Mira while Mira was in her weakest form in their first fight. Skullion was above DeS Gray and Kyria was on par with Star Dress Mix Lucy so even then Skullion > Kyria.

Mashima had Erza and Laxus tie in the same arc he teased Laxus vs Jellal and Mira vs Erza AND had Natsu say the strongest enemies would be in the middle so Mira or Laxus or Jellal would be there. But sure it means nothing 😂

This is why you guys are always shocked when Mira is shown stronger than people like Lucy and Gray and keep thinking she would be surpassed. Happened for the GMG, Tartaros, Alvarez and 100 years quest and you guys are still waiting.
 
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