Chapter Fairy Tail: 100YQ Chapter 221 Discussion

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The production values on the first run of the anime were incredible, the soundtrack just fit so well too. It's a shame it couldn't have gone on until Tartaros. The second run was all slideshow and recap, the pacing was glacial and the desaturated colour palette (whether intentional or not) really jars with what I expect from the series.
Yeah,i have no fucking idea why they used such a shitty colour palette for season 2.It looked so insane bad.
Imo we need a remake with the animation from season 1 or a better one. With the same composer and with the magic cirles, better colors, uncut and better fight animations. Plus some extended/filler scenes especially in some battles.

A remake of the Rave anime would be good too btw.
 

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The production values on the first run of the anime were incredible, the soundtrack just fit so well too. It's a shame it couldn't have gone on until Tartaros. The second run was all slideshow and recap, the pacing was glacial and the desaturated colour palette (whether intentional or not) really jars with what I expect from the series.
Yeah,i have no fucking idea why they used such a shitty colour palette for season 2.It looked so insane bad.
It's because the series had fallen off (my headcanon).

They saw the disaster that was GMG and decided FT just wasn't worth the production value anymore.

Season 2 was a slideshow because that's what it rightfully deserved. Coincidentally the only scenes they animated well involved future Rouge and Mard Geer, because they were the only things worth a damn in x791.
Not sure about season 3 cause I skipped that shit.
 

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Not sure about season 3 cause I skipped that shit.
They brought back colors and style (not 100%) from first one, and animation was quite good at the beginning, but till the end it not only went to slideshow, there were no even background characters, just black silhouettes xd. Irene fight was kinda good, but its like 30 seconds xd.
Still infinitely better than second season for me. Whatever they did with the colors and artstyle is just unforgivable.
 

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Season 2 ft was peak I don't know what you guys are talking about. Season 3 was an abomination. Season 1 had insane choreography man, I thought JC was going to add more to the fighting scenes of hundred years quest but they literally did panel to panel.
remake of the Rave anime would be good too btw.
Mashima-sensei is to washed for that, he will just destroy the series just like he's doing with fairy tail. Fuck even his art is atrocious.

Ueda-sensei should be in charge of fairy tail ngl. Better art but I really don't like the gold owl art . Labyrinth arc art was good
 

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Sad part is,FT has so much potential.The World Hiro created has tons of guilds,gods,other dimensions/worlds,shit tons of unseen continents etc etc

But no,we have a sequel focused on Dragons which was already almost non-exist in the OG Manga.You know the concept of "DRAGONSLAYER" failed when nobody of them were able to kill a Dragon in 550 Chapters.Even the final villains dragonform was only ever hurt by another Dragon.

I get that the dragons are the pinnacle of power of your manga bar Ankhseram,but jesus,let at least one of the Dragonslayers beat one.

Gray,the moment he become a Demonslayer,defeated in the same arc Mard Geer.Sure,with Natsu but Natsu did more or less nothing to Mard.Even his strongest move did at best chip damage.Memento Mori got also blocked by Gray.Good utilization of the moveset Hiro give him

And Godslayers?Lmao,kinda useless.Oh wow,Cherria did the final blow to Dimarias Chronos form.
 

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Sad part is,FT has so much potential.The World Hiro created has tons of guilds,gods,other dimensions/worlds,shit tons of unseen continents etc etc

But no,we have a sequel focused on Dragons which was already almost non-exist in the OG Manga.You know the concept of "DRAGONSLAYER" failed when nobody of them were able to kill a Dragon in 550 Chapters.Even the final villains dragonform was only ever hurt by another Dragon.

I get that the dragons are the pinnacle of power of your manga bar Ankhseram,but jesus,let at least one of the Dragonslayers beat one.

Gray,the moment he become a Demonslayer,defeated in the same arc Mard Geer.Sure,with Natsu but Natsu did more or less nothing to Mard.Even his strongest move did at best chip damage.Memento Mori got also blocked by Gray.Good utilization of the moveset Hiro give him

And Godslayers?Lmao,kinda useless.Oh wow,Cherria did the final blow to Dimarias Chronos form.
Sad part is,FT has so much potential.The World Hiro created has tons of guilds,gods,other dimensions/worlds,shit tons of unseen continents etc etc

But no,we have a sequel focused on Dragons which was already almost non-exist in the OG Manga.You know the concept of "DRAGONSLAYER" failed when nobody of them were able to kill a Dragon in 550 Chapters.Even the final villains dragonform was only ever hurt by another Dragon.

I get that the dragons are the pinnacle of power of your manga bar Ankhseram,but jesus,let at least one of the Dragonslayers beat one.

Gray,the moment he become a Demonslayer,defeated in the same arc Mard Geer.Sure,with Natsu but Natsu did more or less nothing to Mard.Even his strongest move did at best chip damage.Memento Mori got also blocked by Gray.Good utilization of the moveset Hiro give him

And Godslayers?Lmao,kinda useless.Oh wow,Cherria did the final blow to Dimarias Chronos form.
Yea a story or arcs exploring Gods would be ideal and cool. And Acnologia whole goal was to exterminate all dragons but apparently he missed an entire guild of them and then some. (Except for Selene.)
 

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It's because the series had fallen off (my headcanon).

They saw the disaster that was GMG and decided FT just wasn't worth the production value anymore.

Season 2 was a slideshow because that's what it rightfully deserved. Coincidentally the only scenes they animated well involved future Rouge and Mard Geer, because they were the only things worth a damn in x791.
Not sure about season 3 cause I skipped that shit.
That was my intial thought, too, but I remember someone at the time said the 2014 era of the series actually had a marginally higher budget per episode than the 2009 era. The reason the animation quality declined was more because they had a much tighter production schedule, TV Tokyo wanted the rest of the GMG airing ASAP. Basically it was just a rush job, and like you say they focused their best efforts on the big set piece fights, but at the expense of having barely animated scenes to pad out episodes.

The amount of actual content per episode also dropped off quite a bit, an average episode of the 2009 series covers about 3 manga chapters, some even squeeze in a bit more... for 2014 it's like 2.5 for a good episode, and about 2 for an average episode. That's why there's so much recap and those long panning shots. That's probably the very worst thing about that era of the show, it's what I found pretty unwatchable.
 

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Mashima-sensei is to washed for that, he will just destroy the series just like he's doing with fairy tail. Fuck even his art is atrocious.
Yeah, this would probably the case. Sadly :biblethump

I really miss the old days where Mashima made good mangas like Rave or the peak times of Fairy Tail :emocat

Ueda-sensei should be in charge of fairy tail ngl. Better art but I really don't like the gold owl art . Labyrinth arc art was good
Imo his art style is currently better than Mashimas. But Mashimas old art style is still one of the best ones and also better than Uedas.

I really don't understand how he could change his art so much and that in a really terrible way lol

Sad part is,FT has so much potential.The World Hiro created has tons of guilds,gods,other dimensions/worlds,shit tons of unseen continents etc etc
Yep, FT world has so much potential it's a real shame that Mashima never showed us really much of it. We don't even saw the other countries of Ishgar :emocat


I like dragons overall and the dragon designs in FT are one of the best ones and I am really glad that the anime never used CGI (so far) for them.

But the focus on dragons are too much especially in FT100YQ and I don't like it all.

Imo the 5 "dragon gods" should have been different races or extreme dangerous mages. Only one or two of them should be a dragon.

- Ignia could be the dragon
- Viernes could be an extrem powerful alchemist who created a machina which he can use as an avatar. Like Dead End Crow from EZ.
- Mercphobia could be an Fishman who learned dragon powers or god powers and turned into a dragon/god. He could be like Poseidon Nero from EZ and Anchor could be his son or something like that.
- Aldoron either a dragon or a other race who mastered the nature magic
- Selene could be a real goddess instead of a dragon
- Dogramag an ancient real demon and not an etherion created from Zeref or Faris
- The "Sun dragon god" could be a former half dragon (like Wed) who learned God Slayer magic and turned into a god with that he would be a mix between dragon, god and human or demon or an other race.

It's because the series had fallen off (my headcanon).

They saw the disaster that was GMG and decided FT just wasn't worth the production value anymore.

Season 2 was a slideshow because that's what it rightfully deserved. Coincidentally the only scenes they animated well involved future Rouge and Mard Geer, because they were the only things worth a damn in x791.
Not sure about season 3 cause I skipped that shit.
That was my intial thought, too, but I remember someone at the time said the 2014 era of the series actually had a marginally higher budget per episode than the 2009 era. The reason the animation quality declined was more because they had a much tighter production schedule, TV Tokyo wanted the rest of the GMG airing ASAP. Basically it was just a rush job, and like you say they focused their best efforts on the big set piece fights, but at the expense of having barely animated scenes to pad out episodes.
80-90% of the animes since 2014 or 2015 are animated really bad. Especially some animes compared to their manga versions and imo the reasons are of course the budget but also the popularity shueisha mangas will probably get more budget than the animes which manga comes from another magazine/publisher.

Another main reason is imo also social media and the official streaming sites like Crunchyroll, Netflix, etc. The anime studios have much more projects but they don't have the budget, time and workers to make a good anime anymore. Everything because they have much more deadlines because of the pressure they get from the streaming sites.

The last reason are the readers, and the social media I mentioned. If many people dislike or hate something than the chances are very high that this manga will either never get an anime adaption or a bad one. Fairy Tail or rather Mashimas mangas overall are good examples. It's not a secret that Mashima and especially Fairy Tail got extreme hate for reasons I never understand tbh. Because many shonens are the same and had the same bad treatment in their final arcs so I never really understand the hate. But imo this hate and the hate or dislike of many other manga are reasons too why many of them never got an anime adaption or a bad one.

Especially if they have many other projects because of the streaming sites, then they will use more budget and time for animes where the fanbase is higher.

Before social media and offcial streaming sites were in hype and so big the times in the internet were much better, the animes and mangas had also a better quality.

Many new mangas get axed after 10-20 chapters because the readers these days are different. Many people forget that shonen mangas especially shonens like Naruto, Fairy Tail, One Piece, etc need their time. The build up is important. I think many people are not able to wait for that anymore. They want action or crazy plot twist at the beginning of the manga, etc.

I also think that if Naruto, One Piece, Fairy Tail would be mangas from this time they would be axed too.

Maybe I am wrong with some of these things but I still think that some of the things are true and the reasons behind the things we got in the last 10-12 years.
 

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FTs primetime is over, thats for sure.No matter what they would do with that IP
 

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Sad part is,FT has so much potential.The World Hiro created has tons of guilds,gods,other dimensions/worlds,shit tons of unseen continents etc etc

But no,we have a sequel focused on Dragons which was already almost non-exist in the OG Manga.You know the concept of "DRAGONSLAYER" failed when nobody of them were able to kill a Dragon in 550 Chapters.Even the final villains dragonform was only ever hurt by another Dragon.

I get that the dragons are the pinnacle of power of your manga bar Ankhseram,but jesus,let at least one of the Dragonslayers beat one.

Gray,the moment he become a Demonslayer,defeated in the same arc Mard Geer.Sure,with Natsu but Natsu did more or less nothing to Mard.Even his strongest move did at best chip damage.Memento Mori got also blocked by Gray.Good utilization of the moveset Hiro give him

And Godslayers?Lmao,kinda useless.Oh wow,Cherria did the final blow to Dimarias Chronos form.
That's my biggest power scaling complaint of 100YQ, from where they were at the end of the original series, still basically a non factor in a fight against a dragon, to having serious 1v1 fights with exceptionally powerful dragons now, with very little evidence of training or build-up to that level stretches credulity more than a bit.
Imo his art style is currently better than Mashimas. But Mashimas old art style is still one of the best ones and also better than Uedas.

I really don't understand how he could change his art so much and that in a really terrible way lol
Approximately GMG to Tartaros, his artwork was unbelievably good for a weekly series. The amount of detail in even a lot of minor panels, line weights, characters being consistently on model is just absolutely fantastic around that point in the series. It had already dropped off a bit going into Alvarez though, you lose a bit of the detail and there are a few off model panels. I do think it's partially art style too, there was less of the comicy-chibi-humourous panels around the peak, but more of them since. I suppose it is meant to be a comedic series after all, even if it lends itself to serious action pretty well too.
 

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exceptionally powerful dragons
In their Humanform.I dont count that as beaten up a dragon as Humanforms are way weaker as their dragonform.Thats constant amoug the entire franchise.Irene went from being~Erza in physical strength to breaking almost all of her bones AND her sword with a single bitchslap.

On top of gaining access to stronger spells

Selene went from pre-retcon Suzaku-tier in her humanform to blitzing and oneshotting George,same guy who is FAR stronger as Suzaku.Stated by Suzaku HIMSELF



No idea why Hiro protecting their Dragonforms so hard.100YQ started pretty good with Igniaflames Natsu demolishing Mercs Dragonform and Dragon Aldoron getting at least vaporized by Natsu as a sideffect.Sure,he never fought the Dragon himself but still.Plus God Seed Aldoron had the same strength as his Dragon counterpart

Does that hold still up?No,no way in hell.But at least for that time back in Aldoron Arc it did

Natsu also killed Dogs dragonform with an Union Raid attack with Suzakus sword and killed Dragon Viernes

Point is,its crystal clear only Natsu is allowed to beat/kill Dragons.The other Dragonslayers are not.Ffs,Erza,a non Dragonslayer has a better trackrecord against them lmao
 
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