Chapter Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 255 Spoilers & Discussion

[Zezu1995]

lance hazy moon color once again, it due to the mix of 4 different type of magic fusing together. dark spirit magic,ice magic that kills the soul,spartial magic and raw power.

 

[Yakkun]

Hazy Moon

more like Lazy Moon am I right

 

[Covers]

lance hazy moon color once again, it due to the mix of 4 different type of magic fusing together. dark spirit magic,ice magic that kills the soul,spartial magic and raw power.

We will see Lancelot with his true ST with the same Hazy Moon and he still would probably oush that agenda.

 

[Yakkun]

His weapon is low quality though , it's not like Nanashi's sword , let alone his future ST.

I always refer to the color of Hazy Moon he manifested from Nanashi's sword as evidence that it's stronger , it was dark color , not the standard light color.

Lmao WHAT

That weapon fired off more shit than Nanashi's ever did in his hands and without so much as a dent in it, low quality my ass

Lance could shit in a bucket and stir and you'd call it Hazy Moon, brother you ain't theory crafting, seek some help

 

[Demon Lord18]

This coloration is obviously related to the Circular Force created by Dabuzu, not Ironside's magic.

Percival and his hazy moon

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Lmao WHAT

That weapon fired off more shit than Nanashi's ever did in his hands and without so much as a dent in it, low quality my ass

Lance could shit in a bucket and stir and you'd call it Hazy Moon, brother you ain't theory crafting, seek some help

Isn't that because of Chaos regeneraion of the weapon ?

And it's not like he's firing shinning road at its full power , he's been using it to take out some fodder.

Lancelot used a weaker shinning road against Temu Escanor and it didn't break the weapon , only reduced its strength.

If he had access to a weapon that can truly draw out his power , he would have used it to destroy Camelot with a Nemisis level shinning road.

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This coloration is obviously related to the Circular Force created by Dabuzu, not Ironside's magic.

Percival and his hazy moon

I'm not sure what this has to do with Hazy Moon's color shift , this clearly represents Percival being corrupted by Ironside's magic.

 

[Yakkun]

Isn't that because of Chaos regeneraion of the weapon ?

And it's not like he's firing shinning road at its full power , he's been using it to take out some fodder.

Lancelot used a weaker shinning road against Temu Escanor and it didn't break the weapon , only reduced its strength.

If he had access to a weapon that can truly draw out his power , he would have used it to destroy Camelot with a Nemisis level shinning road.

Lol the cope is insane

 

[Covers]

Isn't that because of Chaos regeneraion of the weapon ?

And it's not like he's firing shinning road at its full power , he's been using it to take out some fodder.

Lancelot used a weaker shinning road against Temu Escanor and it didn't break the weapon , only reduced its strength.

If he had access to a weapon that can truly draw out his power , he would have used it to destroy Camelot with a Nemisis level shinning road.

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I'm not sure what this has to do with Hazy Moon's color shift , this clearly represents Percival being corrupted by Ironside's magic.

No proof that Chaos Lancelot weapon is regenerating or there have been any sign of this Chaos amped spear can't handle FP Shinning Road.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

No proof that Chaos Lancelot weapon is regenerating or there have been any sign of this Chaos amped spear can't handle FP Shinning Road.

Chaos regenerates via rewinding time , we've seen that happen many times.

Also , that's not how this works , you have to provide an evidence that this shinning road can handle a FP shinning road , not the other way around.

For starters , if he had access to the full powered shinning road , why didn't he use it to destroy Camelot ?

 

[Capalot98]

Chaos regenerates via rewinding time , we've seen that happen many times.

Also , that's not how this works , you have to provide an evidence that this shinning road can handle a FP shinning road , not the other way around.

For starters , if he had access to the full powered shinning road , why didn't he use it to destroy Camelot ?

The irony of you telling someone else to provide evidence for their claim is crazy lol. Literally the majority or if not all of the theories you come in here with be based solely off your own personal interpretations of events and straight head cannon with no evidence. Most times the story already has shown evidence that contradicts whatever theory you came up with. The story could literally tell us the sky is blue and you’ll still find a way to say nah it’s green

The theories themselves aren’t even the worst part, it’s the fact you spam them over and over every week like your trying to get people to agree with you or just start a debate for the sake of starting a debate

 

[Yakkun]

Chaos regenerates via rewinding time , we've seen that happen many times.

Also , that's not how this works , you have to provide an evidence that this shinning road can handle a FP shinning road , not the other way around.

For starters , if he had access to the full powered shinning road , why didn't he use it to destroy Camelot ?

What you claim goes against all pre-established proof. You are essentially stating the chaos spear perpetually and instantly regenerates by rewinding time, making proof by statement and visual evidence impossible. One cannot prove a negative and since what you claim never even happenef with the Perils or Cath himself before (there alwsys was visual damage followed by a rewind phase), all burden of proof falls to you for claiming an outlier feat.

Your shining road claim is also in reverse. Lance not destroying Camelot in one blow does not mean he used a reduced version of SR so far, it simply means SR was never as strong as you claimed in your head canon.

Lancelot can barely hang onto sanity right now and is unable to defy Caths will. He can stall and redirect his attention but he can no longer curb his power. Cath is in control of that and has zero reason to use Lancelot below his capabilities since the declared goal is absolute destruction.

As usual, most of your claims regarding SR are unsupported and a fever dream.

 

[Covers]

Chaos regenerates via rewinding time , we've seen that happen many times.

Also , that's not how this works , you have to provide an evidence that this shinning road can handle a FP shinning road , not the other way around.

For starters , if he had access to the full powered shinning road , why didn't he use it to destroy Camelot ?

It's opposite there must be some kind sign of the weapon being cracking or something so the reader knows the weapon can't handle like every weapon Lancelot has used.

Chaos using time rewind is irrelevant the weapon needs to crack/break first.

For now there is no proof the Chaos amped spear can't handle FP shinning road.

Also visually there is no difference between all of Lancelot shinning road I believe when he was kid, adult or whatever even when be became much stronger.

So FP Shinninh Road may be > Nemesis without Britannia level destruction.

We don't know.

We will see.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

What you claim goes against all pre-established proof. You are essentially stating the chaos spear perpetually and instantly regenerates by rewinding time, making proof by statement and visual evidence impossible. One cannot prove a negative and since what you claim never even happenef with the Perils or Cath himself before (there alwsys was visual damage followed by a rewind phase), all burden of proof falls to you for claiming an outlier feat.

Your shining road claim is also in reverse. Lance not destroying Camelot in one blow does not mean he used a reduced version of SR so far, it simply means SR was never as strong as you claimed in your head canon.

Lancelot can barely hang onto sanity right now and is unable to defy Caths will. He can stall and redirect his attention but he can no longer curb his power. Cath is in control of that and has zero reason to use Lancelot below his capabilities since the declared goal is absolute destruction.

As usual, most of your claims regarding SR are unsupported and a fever dream.

It's opposite there must be some kind sign of the weapon being cracking or something so the reader knows the weapon can't handle like every weapon Lancelot has used.

Chaos using time rewind is irrelevant the weapon needs to crack/break first.

For now there is no proof the Chaos amped spear can't handle FP shinning road.

Also visually there is no difference between all of Lancelot shinning road I believe when he was kid, adult or whatever even when be became much stronger.

So FP Shinninh Road may be > Nemesis without Britannia level destruction.

We don't know.

We will see.

There's no need for visible damage; we know weapons lose their strength after being used to fire a Shining Road.

Because Lancelot used Tristan's sword to fire a Shining Road at Temu Escanor, the weapon didn't initially break, nor did it show any visible damage.

However, it clearly lost its strength, which is why it broke later during Ysaye's attack.

Lancelot even confirmed this, stating it happened because he had used it to fire a Shining Road before.

Bro, a full-powered Shining Road is stronger than the Seven Deadly Sins' Nemesis attack. The Lady of the Lake herself stated this—it's not my headcanon.

Also, you're misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying Lancelot isn't using his full power; I'm saying he can't draw it out completely without a Sacred Treasure.

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Also, I think the weapon Lancelot needs isn't just about durability or strength. Even Nanashi's sword, which was crafted by Dubs, couldn't handle his "Shining Road."

What Lancelot truly needs is a special ability imbued within a Sacred Treasure to help him draw out his full power. Since weapons made by Dubs always possess a unique ability, I wonder what the specific ability of his Sacred Treasure will be.

 

[Covers]

There's no need for visible damage; we know weapons lose their strength after being used to fire a Shining Road.

Because Lancelot used Tristan's sword to fire a Shining Road at Temu Escanor, the weapon didn't initially break, nor did it show any visible damage.

However, it clearly lost its strength, which is why it broke later during Ysaye's attack.

Lancelot even confirmed this, stating it happened because he had used it to fire a Shining Road before.

Bro, a full-powered Shining Road is stronger than the Seven Deadly Sins' Nemesis attack. The Lady of the Lake herself stated this—it's not my headcanon.

Also, you're misunderstanding my point. I'm not saying Lancelot isn't using his full power; I'm saying he can't draw it out completely without a Sacred Treasure.

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Also, I think the weapon Lancelot needs isn't just about durability or strength. Even Nanashi's sword, which was crafted by Dubs, couldn't handle his "Shining Road."

What Lancelot truly needs is a special ability imbued within a Sacred Treasure to help him draw out his full power. Since weapons made by Dubs always possess a unique ability, I wonder what the specific ability of his Sacred Treasure will be.

It would've been shown yet nothing with the Chaos amped spear...

Lancelot has using Shinning Road and more without any issue with his weapon breaking or anything.

Until there is a sign there is no proof that Chaos Lancelot can't uses it's FP shinning road which I already said was > Nemesis.

All points to Chaos Lancelot able to use it as he is stronger than 100% Chaos Cath and Demon King.

We know that Lancelot with Nanashi's sword can't defeat Cath with most of Chaos so no so no the spear isn't low quality.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

It would've been shown yet nothing with the Chaos amped spear...

Lancelot has using Shinning Road and more without any issue with his weapon breaking or anything.

Until there is a sign there is no proof that Chaos Lancelot can't uses it's FP shinning road which I already said was > Nemesis.

All points to Chaos Lancelot able to use it as he is stronger than 100% Chaos Cath and Demon King.

We know that Lancelot with Nanashi's sword can't defeat Cath with most of Chaos so no so no the spear isn't low quality.

Why would it be shown? It wasn't even shown when he used it via Tristan's sword.

Lancelot being able to use a full-powered Shining Road requires evidence, but you are doing the exact opposite by demanding evidence to prove that he can't.

He might be stronger than them, but that doesn't mean he can freely utilize that strength.

Lancelot has always struggled to use his full power without a weapon; that has been his core issue from the very beginning, and we already know that.

As I mentioned before, the color shift of Hazy Moon is clear evidence that Chaos Lancelot is inferior to Lancelot wielding Nanashi’s sword.

Who even claimed that Lancelot with Nanashi's sword can't defeat Cath?

Lancelot would utterly destroy Cath with or without a weapon—he doesn't even need Shining Road for that.

Lastly, Ysaye's spear is nowhere near the level of a Dubs-crafted weapon like Nanashi's sword; it's just an ordinary spear.

 

[Demonspeed]

Why would it be shown? It wasn't even shown when he used it via Tristan's sword.

Lancelot being able to use a full-powered Shining Road requires evidence, but you are doing the exact opposite by demanding evidence to prove that he can't.

He might be stronger than them, but that doesn't mean he can freely utilize that strength.

Lancelot has always struggled to use his full power without a weapon; that has been his core issue from the very beginning, and we already know that.

As I mentioned before, the color shift of Hazy Moon is clear evidence that Chaos Lancelot is inferior to Lancelot wielding Nanashi’s sword.

Who even claimed that Lancelot with Nanashi's sword can't defeat Cath?

Lancelot would utterly destroy Cath with or without a weapon—he doesn't even need Shining Road for that.

Lastly, Ysaye's spear is nowhere near the level of a Dubs-crafted weapon like Nanashi's sword; it's just an ordinary spear.

Bro, Tristan's sword eventually broke and it was used for a "reveal'. Lancelot isn't at full strength currently, he is beyond that and has been spamming Shining Road and other techniques, he has most of Chaos which is the most powerful entity in the universe and used it to transform Ysaie's spear. Spears are his best weapons by the way but here you are posting such nonsense.

Lancelot didn't have issues using his full power. Weapons break because of his power and when he is using spears or arrows, he is at his best.

Current Lancelot: Much stronger thanks to Chaos, best weapon for him, which is also buffed Chaos, consistent Shining Roads which haven't put a dent on his spear but you are here claiming that he is weaker.

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Lancelot's Shining Road with Shirojika isn't enough to kill Cath. Using it against a fragment of him broke the sword.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Bro, Tristan's sword eventually broke and it was used for a "reveal'. Lancelot isn't at full strength currently, he is beyond that and has been spamming Shining Road and other techniques, he has most of Chaos which is the most powerful entity in the universe and used it to transform Ysaie's spear. Spears are his best weapons by the way but here you are posting such nonsense.

Lancelot didn't have issues using his full power. Weapons break because of his power and when he is using spears or arrows, he is at his best.

Current Lancelot: Much stronger thanks to Chaos, best weapon for him, which is also buffed Chaos, consistent Shining Roads which haven't put a dent on his spear but you are here claiming that he is weaker.

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Lancelot's Shining Road with Shirojika isn't enough to kill Cath. Using it against a fragment of him broke the sword.

Yeah but it didn't break immeditaly like it normally does , it broke later from Ysaye's attack, not on its own.

This means the Shining Road he used against Temu Escanor only reduced its strength , it didn't break it as usual because Lancelot held back.

Same thing here with Chaos Lancelot, he has simply been spamming fodder-level Shining Roads to clear out weak enemies; it is nowhere near full power.

Why would he waste a Nemesis-level Shining Road on fodder anyway? , that makes no sense.

Also, stop dismissing the evidence: the visual shift of Hazy Moon from light to dark clearly proves that Chaos Lancelot with Ysaye's spear is weaker than Lancelot with Nanashi's sword. Why else would the Hazy Moon change colors?

 

[Covers]

Why would it be shown? It wasn't even shown when he used it via Tristan's sword.

Lancelot being able to use a full-powered Shining Road requires evidence, but you are doing the exact opposite by demanding evidence to prove that he can't.

He might be stronger than them, but that doesn't mean he can freely utilize that strength.

Lancelot has always struggled to use his full power without a weapon; that has been his core issue from the very beginning, and we already know that.

As I mentioned before, the color shift of Hazy Moon is clear evidence that Chaos Lancelot is inferior to Lancelot wielding Nanashi’s sword.

Who even claimed that Lancelot with Nanashi's sword can't defeat Cath?

Lancelot would utterly destroy Cath with or without a weapon—he doesn't even need Shining Road for that.

Lastly, Ysaye's spear is nowhere near the level of a Dubs-crafted weapon like Nanashi's sword; it's just an ordinary spear.

Are you really serious? to show even a Chaos amped spear can't handle his FP shinning road like we have seen with every weapon he has used.

We're told by Cath himself this Lancelot using SR with Nanashi's sword is still not enough to defeat him anything is copium.

We don't know how Ysaye's spear was crafted so no proof that is low quality.

The spear was amped by Chaos and there has been no proof that Lancelot can't uses his FP shinning road.

This debate is pointless we're just going circle.

I'm just going to wait until we see Lancelot wit his true ST and how his hazy moon will be the same white version.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Are you really serious? to show even a Chaos amped spear can't handle his FP shinning road like we have seen with every weapon he has used.

We're told by Cath himself this Lancelot using SR with Nanashi's sword is still not enough to defeat him anything is copium.

We don't know how Ysaye's spear was crafted so no proof that is low quality.

The spear was amped by Chaos and there has been no proof that Lancelot can't uses his FP shinning road.

This debate is pointless we're just going circle.

I'm just going to wait until we see Lancelot wit his true ST and how his hazy moon will be the same white version.

There is no reason to believe that the Shining Roads he has been spamming as Chaos Lancelot are full-powered.

Lancelot has simply been holding back.

Perhaps you are thinking that Lancelot can only fire a full-powered Shining Road or else he will break his weapon?

That is not the case. Lancelot can easily suppress the power of his Shining Road to avoid breaking his weapon—just like he did against Temu Escanor.

Why would you assume Lancelot even needs a Shining Road to defeat Cath to begin with?

Cath was scared of Lancelot regardless.

Nothing matches the quality of Dubs-made weapons.

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However, if Lancelot can't fire a full-powered Shining Road, how is he going to destroy the Behemoth?

The Behemoth is just too big—he's most likely bigger than Britannia itself.

I just can't imagine Lancelot destroying it without a proper Shining Road.

He might have something else at his disposal that can take out such a big monster and personally I can't wait to see it.

 

[tdtd1234]

There should be a dedicated powerscaling thread, because EVERY chapter discussion ends up like this.