Chapter Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 256 Spoilers & Discussion

[Rikudou King]

So by the looks of it, Zeldris no longer has "God". Makes sense. He had a better performance then I was expecting. And now it looks like Nakaba is implying Lancelot isn't fully there mentally, which was not the case just a few chapters ago...

Nah let be real, this chapter makes the power scaling look as bad as Fairy Tail's.

I stopped caring much about power scaling or anything of the sort at the start of this arc. But Nakaba needs to make up his mind: is Lancelot really that strong or not?

Why you hype someone making him seem stronger than the Demon King for dozens of chapters only to have him look like this in front of the guy who was helpless against the Behemoth? It really makes me wonder if Nakaba cares about narrative consistency.

If Lancelot's power level is such an issue for you, you could simply choose not to glaze him to that extent.

Is it? Outside of the Ruler, The Demon King was not that far beyond Meliodas and the Sins at the end of the og series, and Zeldris wasn't that far below Meliodas. Both Meliodas and Ban can be argued to fall into the same category of being "stronger" then the Demon King. It's not some far off tier no one would be capable of challenging... Lancelot being strong doesn't mean that, more then likely, others won't find a way around his abilities to counter him. It was already set up that the other KotA would be capable of doing so by Lancelot himself.

Let's not act like the Behemoth being a continental size beast absorbing life energy would be something that could be dealt with without specific abilities, especially since we don't even know how the Demon King dealt with it the first time.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Not mindscape bro.

DK possesed Meluidas detached his bird hands to handle Zeldris while he was fighting Ban.

So yes Zeldris Ominous Nebula works on DK level opponents as shown in that fight.

Why does it matter if he destroyed his bird hands which transformed into that nuke spitting demonic head ?

It's not like he destroyed the demon king himself.

 

[Covers]

Why does it matter if he destroyed his bird hands which transformed into that nuke spitting demonic head ?

It's not like he destroyed the demon king himself.

It means Omnious Nebula can affect enemies way above it's paygrade and DK level oponents.

The One Escanor was only imnune to the attraction not the hits.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

It means Omnious Nebula can affect enemies way above it's paygrade and DK level oponents.

You're not actually saying that detached creature is a demon king level Opponents ?

It was simply detached from the demon king , that doesn't make it demon king level.

 

[Mighty Escanor]

I don't know if it's mentioned anywhere, but using machine translation, the Editor's note in the final page is telling us that:

“The Demon King finally shows his true power!!! What will become of the decisive battle against Chaos Lancelot?!”

@FKS stopped translating them after it was used without permission, and I can't trust machine translation to say it's necessarily true.

But it looks like good news for Zel fans. Congratulations @Zorra_akuma . The current DK isn't gonna get no diffed or one shotted by Canceloth if the line actually means it.

We may even see some new abilities or even new transformation for Zel in the next chapter.

 

[Covers]

You're not actually saying that detached creature is a demon king level Opponents ?

It was simply detached from the demon king , that doesn't make it demon king level.

How it's not? We're told only Ban can handle it's nukes and Ludo won't even last 5 second.

These same hands made Ban bleed.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

How it's not? We're told only Ban can handle it's nukes and Ludo won't even last 5 second.

These same hands made Ban bleed.

Zeldris was able to handle the nukes because he had the power of the demon king that made him immune to magical attacks then the demon king took it away.

These hands that made Ban bleed was being used directly by the demon king and then they transformed into different creatures.

That's a weird method of powerscaling , Zeldris didn't even destroy Ludociel with his Ominous Nebula.

 

[Lancelot]

How it's not? We're told only Ban can handle it's nukes and Ludo won't even last 5 second.

These same hands made Ban bleed.

He has no argument on this.
He's just sulking for no reason, trying to make people believe Zeldris's technique is weak when the work has already shown the opposite.
The sinister nebula is incredibly powerful, and Lance doesn't have the physical strength to withstand it.

 

[Covers]

Zeldris was able to handle the nukes because he had the power of the demon king that made him immune to magical attacks then the demon king took it away.

These hands that made Ban bleed was being used directly by the demon king and then they transformed into different creatures.

That's a weird method of powerscaling , Zeldris didn't even destroy Ludociel with his Ominous Nebula.

I never said anything about Zeldris able to habdle the nukes.

I said only Ban can physically handle these nukes which it DK level attacks.

Ludo only took a non serious Omnious Nebula from Zeldris who wasn't using his FP.

Irrelevant these hands were affected and destroyed by Ominous Nebula.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

I never said anything about Zeldris able to habdle the nukes.

I said only Ban can physically handle these nukes which it DK level attacks.

Ludo only took a non serious Omnious Nebula from Zeldris who wasn't using his FP.

Irrelevant these hands were affected and destroyed by Ominous Nebula.

So these creatures simply have the capacity to fire magical nukes but low durability.

 

[Demonspeed]

@Lancelot Calm down.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Wait, am I basing my entire argument on just one thing?
Why are you focusing exclusively on the Temu Escanor example?

There’s also the Four Perils, which you’re presenting as a purely physical feat even though that’s clearly not the case.
Then there’s Nanashi, which you’re trying to scale as a purely physical feat when that is factually false.

And on top of that, the manga itself, whenever it talks about Lance’s power, mainly emphasizes the sheer magnitude of his magical power, not his physical strength.
Physically, the main thing that stands out about him is his speed.

He blitzed Nanashi and one-shot him with a kick; that’s a physical feat.

He also blitzed the Four Evils and one-shot them with a sword strike, which is another physical feat.

I’m not sure why you’re saying these aren’t physical feats. Sure, he used magic during the fight, but the finishers themselves were purely physical.

The only exception is the fight against the Four Evils, where I think he enchanted his sword with something called moon of 18. I’m not entirely sure what it does, but it somehow prevented them from regenerating.

Whatever the case , Lancelot always overwhelms his opponents physically to finish them off , he couldn't have possibly land those attacks of his if he wasn't overwhelmingly superior.

 

[Covers]

Looking at the scans again this Chaos Lancelot was caught off guard by Ominous Nebula and pushed back.

Then proceed to go where Zeldris is unaffected? and is blocking the attacks until he goes close enough to attack him? Isn't as bad as people made ir to be.

Need to see the HD scans to see well.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Looking at the scans again this Chaos Lancelot was caught off guard by Ominous Nebula and pushed back.

Then proceed to go where Zeldris is unaffected? and is blocking the attacks until he goes close enough to attack him? Isn't as bad as people made ir to be.

Let's be fair to Zeldris here , Zeldris was being slowed down by Lancelot's Magical Field , he said so himself.

That's why Lancelot was able to block.

 

[Covers]

Looking at the scans again this Chaos Lancelot was caught off guard by Ominous Nebula and pushed back.

Then proceed to go where Zeldris is unaffected? and is blocking the attacks until he goes close enough to attack him? Isn't as bad as people made ir to be.

Need to see the HD scans to see well.

Lancelot got pushed back again looking at it now well

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So these creatures simply have the capacity to fire magical nukes but low durability.

"Low" durability lol it was blocking King, Diane, Mael attacks easily without any scratch.

Also strong enough to block Ban attacks?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Based on Zeldris's statement that Lancelot's magical field originates from the Lake's power, it seems the true nature of the "Hazy Moon" ability is far deeper than we initially thought.

At first glance, one might assume "Hazy Moon" is simply the ability to launch homing or tracking magic, as seen with Shining Road and Waning Moon of Destruction, which lock onto specific targets to attack:

• Shining Road: Acts as a concentrated magical blast that focuses on a single target.
• Waning Moon of Destruction: Manifests as a literal moon and unleashes pure light in all directions. It is so precisely targeted that it strikes the enemies' bodies without damaging a single thread of their clothing.

But is that really it? Is this tracking ability truly what the Lady of the Lake called "the strongest of all"?

Honestly, if it's just homing attacks, it feels a bit underwhelming.

More importantly, it leaves a massive question unanswered:

Why would having the ability to release homing magical attacks allow someone to absorb the Lake's infinite magic?

My theory is that "Hazy Moon" has a "default state." In this default setting, the specific target it locks onto is Lancelot himself.

This is exactly why he constantly has an immense flow of magic circulating inside his body.

This explains how he was able to absorb the Lake’s infinite magic. Lancelot’s "Hazy Moon" fundamentally converts magic into a homing stream.

Therefore, when he absorbed the Lake, his magic had already established his own body as the ultimate target, pulling the infinite energy directly into himself like a magnet.

 

[Eiiyuu Yami]

AHHHH ZELDRIS MY BELOVED

Too bad Nakaba is a hack and this is zeldris hype is gonna reverse in next chapter

 

[Maelstrom Omega]

Do you think the same thing won't happen to Ban?

Only Escanor in 'The One' state can walk through it like it's nothing, and even he got a few scratches. Ominous Nebula is no joke.

Lancelot can absorb physical and magical attacks, but it's not an absolute hax; he still takes damage if he doesn't absorb them fully.

Idc about him getting drawn in by ON. He was coughing blood from a single Zeldris’s kick bruh. That’s the greatest downscale.
Ain’t no way in hell Zeldris is damaging ban like that.

y’all will cry in next chapter

Facts people will complain this chapter that Chaos Lancelot isn’t as strong as they thought he was because Zeldris wasn’t one shotted. But then once Lancelot pulls out some op bs next chapter and shows that Zeldris had no chance in hell of even challenging him then they’ll complain that he’s too strong and how is everyone else supposed to beat him lol

No matter what is happening next chapter no one is crying cuz no one actually think Zeldris is winning. But even when that will happen it will not change the fact that Lancelot’s physicals stats bare speed are not top tier level. Everyone knows(I do at least) that Lancelot will beat Zeldris but that will be through magic, not through physical strength.

It means Omnious Nebula can affect enemies way above it's paygrade and DK level oponents.

The One Escanor was only imnune to the attraction not the hits.

Using the mental fight would be better than this argument bruh.
Is Diane doing this to Chandler characters level ?

Spoiler

AHHHH ZELDRIS MY BELOVED

Too bad Nakaba is a hack and this is zeldris hype is gonna reverse in next chapter

it’s not bad bro let’s be serious. Zeldris HAS TO and will be defeated here.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Idc about him getting drawn in by ON. He was coughing blood from a single Zeldris’s kick bruh. That’s the greatest downscale.
Ain’t no way in hell Zeldris is damaging ban like that.

Hmmm, you might have a point here. The problem is we’ve never actually seen Ban spar with the likes of Meliodas and Zeldris.

I mean, King was kind enough to say that Ban is likely stronger than Meliodas, implying he isn't completely certain Ban outclasses him, but he thinks it's a strong possibility.

Furthermore, while Zeldris is weaker than Meliodas, he should still be relative to him; it’s not as if Meliodas outclasses Zeldris to the point of being on an entirely different level.

By this logic, Zeldris should possess enough power to at least damage someone like Ban. Otherwise, it would be pretty embarrassing for him and Meliodas.

 

[Rey151203]

3 in total, this one included. Nakaba needs room for some sob moment with the vampire.

A moment of Zeldris, a moment of Gelda, and a moment of Behemoth.

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No, you're wrong.
Not everyone knows that, since some people claim that Lance is considered stronger because of the lake.

Oh yes, that's right, sorry for the mistake.

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He’s stronger but can he defeat him in a fight ? Hell nah! DK counter him with the Ruler and destroys him physically!

I imagined that a Lancelot vs. Demon King fight would be a difficult battle, But in the end, Lancelot would win through chaos regeneration and by using enchantment in physical attacks that would bypass the Ruler, And having an inexhaustible magical reserve, the demon king would eventually lose. But it wouldn't be an easy battle for Lancelot.

Same terms for supreme, I believe Lancelot would win, also after a difficult fight.

--- Double Post Merged, Monday at 5:27 PM ---

Nobody thinks Zeldris has a chance, but this chapter showed Chaos Lancelot as someone beatable, not the almost cosmic figure they were portraying him as.

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