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GS>Any CB.He is Gildarts Tier who is still>Laxus/Mira
I am furious that Laxus fight is being interrupted to showcase Mira, or Elfman. I'm complaining about both. I am unilaterally pissed off about not getting my 1v1 dragon match for what amounts to shippers BS. Cause the entirety of whats happening with Elfman's amp could have taken place seperately. Instead. Here. We. Are....What are you actually saying? You’re upset that Elfman is getting a power up and Laxus is involved?
Laxus isn’t short on screen time I’m not sure why the fuss, this is like his second dragon he’s fought anyway. Laxus is cool but he isn’t above sharing panels with his guild mates like everyone else
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A massive fucking aura lossI'll try to stay positive, what if Elfman just weakens the dragons so Mira and Laxus can finish them off?![]()
We been knew. Now everyone is going to act shocked that Mira is shown to be on Laxus and Erza's tier or say that Scissor runner is the weakest despite him and levia always being lumped as a duo. Lol As if it wasn't obvious already. She impressed Scissor runner by throwing him and crashing him into Levia. Her and Laxus together tanked 2 attacks from these dragons and are equally battered. Both are powered up by Wendy the same way and we saw how Erza with wendy's power stood up to motherglare before enchanting the dragon energy in the end. The Mira agenda is real. What did Natsu say again? The strongest are in the middle so Mira or Laxus would be there?... What did Mashima say? He keeps the original scaling the same in the guild? What were Erza and Mira called again? The most reliable duo.Mirajane UPSCALEEEE
Who needs other dragons powers when you can lob a dragon with your demon powers
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I think this is what will happen since Erza needed external help outside of Wendy to win so Mira and Laxus should require the same.I'll try to stay positive, what if Elfman just weakens the dragons so Mira and Laxus can finish them off?![]()

What's funny to me is that Mira has the same buff as Laxus and Erza so people acting like Wendy's buff makes it a non-feat is funny because all 3 are getting buffed outside of 2 getting DS attribute which Laxus has naturally. So because they all are equally buffed Mira's feats are still feats. And since Wendy powered them all up outside of DS attribute Laxus also is being boosted here.I wanted Laxus x Mira team-up from the start but Hiro couldn't have picked a worst time to remember where Elfman is supposed to be. I'm not against him getting a power-up, just could it happen elsewhere? lol
As for the chapter, the writing surrounding these dragons is still messy. Levia claims he doesn't use his dragon form because he likes to fight (cap, why you steal Laxus soul then) Then gets a german suplex and rage quits the duel by transforming. He's still slightly more competent than Motherglare who apparently can't fight in her dragon form? But still kinda weird. Secondly, I think it's hilarious that Laxus is clearly salty about not beating a dragon during GMG. As he should be. So hopefully Elfman doesn't take all the glory next chapter. Lastly, Mira may actually be the physically strongest in the guild but it's hard to gauge upscales with DS attribute being verbatim confirmed to be buffs. With that in mind, the hyper fixation some posters have on "1v1's" is weird. Laxus lost the solo fade chapters ago![]()
That was just 1 roar from Scissor Runner. But still a feat. She also endured another attack from him that’s in a page that’s missingWhat's funny to me is that Mira has the same buff as Laxus and Erza so people acting like Wendy's buff makes it a non-feat is funny because all 3 are getting buffed outside of 2 getting DS attribute which Laxus has naturally. So because they all are equally buffed Mira's feats are still feats. And since Wendy powered them all up outside of DS attribute Laxus also is being boosted here.
Also a team up makes sense since Erza needed the dragon energy in the earth to win so logically Laxus or Mira can't win 1 vs 1 even with Wendy's boost. They need something extra so I think Elfman would be that extra for them to then finish it off.
Side note: Mira stans are winning. Her physical strength can lift, toss and crash 1 CB into another and hurt them while impressing said CB. She also tanked 2 roars with Laxus, just as well as Laxus while remaining just as battered as Laxus. Both of them have Wendy's buffs.
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Motherglare showed that the CB's dragon form is just like Piccolo's giant form, increases strength stats but not necessarily better for fighting overall. And Laxus just used his base form, even being his DK base with Kirin he also needed RL, so it's not like Levia is marginally above Kirin, and depending on how Levia gets defeated it won't even matter, Elfman can give nightmares to Laxus for stealing his spotlight. And Don't think Erza will do anything else, but she already looked better than Laxus, buddy even Gray looked better than Laxus this arcmean, he already got King mode and RL. An he forced a dragon transformation in 3 moves lol. Now if we see another dope Jellal vs a dragon moment he can sleep tight. Right now he need to be watching Erza lol, she gun be wearing them pants.
At the moment, I'm just hoping and praying that Mashima checks this forum for ideas and hasn't forgotten about this Chekhov's gun:What imo ruins this fight so far (besides the fact that the battle was offscreened lol) is that we have now a Elfman moment. Why now?
We had a short fight with Elfman where he fought against Gaia the demon guy from Faris books. Mashima could spend 1-2 chapters for that battle. The place of the fight was on Aldorons body,so a full Takeover form of Aldoron would make sense.
Also, I thought Mirajane used her takeover magic on Daemon? Where is her new form?
With the Aldoron takeover form and Mirajane Daemon form with that she can use her hax magic, it would made at least sense that they could hurt Scissor Runner.
Many things are so random....
I saw this brought up elsewhere and thought it was weird—even though it wasn't explicitly shown, to me it felt super obvious that they both attacked at the same time since they were literally chatting about wiping everyone out. That explosion looks way too massive to be from just one dragon anyway, but if that's all Scissor, props to him.That was just 1 roar from Scissor Runner. But still a feat. She also endured another attack from him that’s in a page that’s missing
The buff may be equal, the point is if you multiply 2 x 2, you will get 4, but if you multiply 2 x 10 you will get 20, a number way higher than 4, do you get it ? Mira has low calculation base, Erza and Laxus had higher calculation base. Besides Laxus did not used RL, even while making fun of Laxus he wouldn't solo, just that he is being done dirty and not getting an upscaleWhat's funny to me is that Mira has the same buff as Laxus and Erza so people acting like Wendy's buff makes it a non-feat is funny because all 3 are getting buffed outside of 2 getting DS attribute which Laxus has naturally. So because they all are equally buffed Mira's feats are still feats. And since Wendy powered them all up outside of DS attribute Laxus also is being boosted here.
Laxus was able to counter Levia's roar or his other attacks but he couldnt do same thing in their Dragon form. Just look at the damage he received from three attack and compare with his human form attacks.Motherglare showed that the CB's dragon form is just like Piccolo's giant form, increases strength stats but not necessarily better for fighting overall. And Laxus just used his base form, even being his DK base with Kirin he also needed RL, so it's not like Levia is marginally above Kirin, and depending on how Levia gets defeated it won't even matter, Elfman can give nightmares to Laxus for stealing his spotlight. And Don't think Erza will do anything else, but she already looked better than Laxus, buddy even Gray looked better than Laxus this arc
That comparison doesn't make any sense at all. It just feels like a desperate attempt to push that "if Mira did it, everyone does it" narrative.The buff may be equal, the point is if you multiply 2 x 2, you will get 4, but if you multiply 2 x 10 you will get 20, a number way higher than 4, do you get it ? Mira has low calculation base, Erza and Laxus had higher calculation base. Besides Laxus did not used RL, even while making fun of Laxus he wouldn't solo, just that he is being done dirty and not getting an upscale
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Just for the people who forget that a far weaker Erza pushed HIMnologia
But i'm honest, if Juvia did what she did with Anchor then i also assume that true top tiers can do. It's not a ''desperate attempt'' it's coherence. Mirajane is stronger than Juvia ? Yes she is, but is she as strong as other S Class ? No, if she don't get a true power up Skullion will always be a ghost haunting her, just like he should be for Gray right now as Gray needs emotional buffs to be a top tier and just like Serena is a ghost for Gajeel. Be real, she had Allegria back at the time as her trump card and was still unsure if she could beat Skullion. Right now she is stronger because of Wendy enchantment, but how much stronger ? I'm not assuming arbitrary huge buffs from Wendy to anyone, besides she pushed the dragon but was portrayed to be weaker with this roar and due to the fact that she had support in this offscreen fight.That comparison doesn't make any sense at all. It just feels like a desperate attempt to push that "if Mira did it, everyone does it" narrative.
I wonder how do you know the full context of how Levia was pushed. The fight was literally offscreen, who is to say she didn't got help from Elfman and the OS in this ''head on'' hit ? And more importantly, who is to say that this dragon is truly strong ? Anchor is also weakErza's attack was fully charged, she didn't just summon all her swords at once, and Acnologia got hit from behind and only dropped. Meanwhile, Mira's dragon clearly got hit head-on and went rolling away without any chance to recover balance, plus the impact was so heavy that even Levia felt it.
Wait, seriously how do you know that it was casual ? The fight was offscreenOn top of that, that version of Acnologia was purely moving based on a magic power sensor, and Mira herself baited him right into Erza's trap. I'm not saying Erza's feat isn't insane, but there's no way you can compare that to Mirajane casually making a dragon with 500 years of magical power go rolling across the skies. Even wizards using Brandish's magic weren't pulling off anything like that.
But i'm honest, if Juvia did what she did with Anchor then i also assume that true top tiers can do. It's not a ''desperate attempt'' it's coherence. Mirajane is stronger than Juvia ? Yes she is, but is she as strong as other S Class ? No, if she don't get a true power up Skullion will always be a ghost haunting her, just like he should be for Gray right now as Gray needs emotional buffs to be a top tier and just like Serena is a ghost for Gajeel. Be real, she had Allegria back at the time as her trump card and was still unsure if she could beat Skullion. Right now she is stronger because of Wendy enchantment, but how much stronger ? I'm not assuming arbitrary huge buffs from Wendy to anyone, besides she pushed the dragon but was portrayed to be weaker with this roar and due to the fact that she had support in this offscreen fight.
I wonder how do you know the full context of how Levia was pushed. The fight was literally offscreen, who is to say she didn't got help from Elfman and the OS in this ''head on'' hit ? And more importantly, who is to say that this dragon is truly strong ? Anchor is also weak
Wait, seriously how do you know that it was casual ? The fight was offscreen
Imo it doesn't matter if he forgot it or not. If she use it in the next chapter or in the next two chapters it will be strange. Simple because it doesn't make sense not to use it so far, especially because it makes her stronger, plus she would be able to use Daemons hax magic.At the moment, I'm just hoping and praying that Mashima checks this forum for ideas and hasn't forgotten about this Chekhov's gun:
Or maybe the buff being equal proves that Mira is on their level? The fact that she has an equal buff and is physically throwing and hurting a CB is proof that she is operating on the same level as Erza stabbing one in their forehead and Laxus matching their punch with his punch.The buff may be equal, the point is if you multiply 2 x 2, you will get 4, but if you multiply 2 x 10 you will get 20, a number way higher than 4, do you get it ? Mira has low calculation base, Erza and Laxus had higher calculation base. Besides Laxus did not used RL, even while making fun of Laxus he wouldn't solo, just that he is being done dirty and not getting an upscale
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Just for the people who forget that a far weaker Erza pushed HIMnologia
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They cling to Skullion to diminish Mira but forget about him when it comes to Gray lmaoJust butting in but how is a Skullion stalemate fight from so many chapters ago a ghost haunting Mirajane?
She’s faced Daemon who I’d rank above him considering she did more damage to Mira with the same intangibility hax Skullion had which has biggest advantage against her and she’s still fast enough to speed blitz and bypass it with Alegria which she could just as easily do the same to Skullion. Daemon actually pushed Mira out of BSS, Skullion didn’t.
Mirajane squaring up with a human form dragon which she pushed into it’s dragon from and doing considerably well enough to fling it across the sky is proof enough Skullion isn’t an issue anymore.
Not to mention Alegria being used much more casually compared to its first appearance
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Or maybe the buff being equal proves that Mira is on their level? The fact that she has an equal buff and is physically throwing and hurting a CB is proof that she is operating on the same level as Erza stabbing one in their forehead and Laxus matching their punch with his punch.
Mira also is relying on physical strength not magic energy explosions like what killed Heine and Julliet. And if we really want to compare and split hairs... alegria physically throwing Scissor runner from that distance and bashing him into Levia is superior to matching a punch with Levia which would account for alegria being used while red lightning is not.
This is what I am talking about. You all start off with a wrong assumption and scale from there lmao. INB4 Scissor runner is the weakest CB.
Lol you all claim there is no proof that Mira is on a certain level and when we do get statements or hype it doesn't matter and when we get feats like this one you start doing these vs wiki calculations to explain why your assumption is correct.
Erza pushed him down to the ground. Mira tossed Scissor runner, a significant distance, sending him crashing into Levia which not only hurt both of them, it shocked Scissor runner himself. By your logic Laxus matching Levia's punch before the magic drain is less impressive than Erza pushing Acnologia to the ground or Juvia manipulating waves to rock him on the boat.
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They cling to Skullion to diminish Mira but forget about him when it comes to Gray lmao
Mira tied with Skullion in her base in their first encounter. Even then halphas was capable of low diffing BSS. The anti logic never made sense and it was clearly just a plot induced nerf. Erza in clear heart with benizakura was matched by Kyria and she was shocked Laxus beat someone strong like Kyria the way he did yet it never affected her scaling.
Also that was arcs ago so if people thought Gray would beat Skullion in the labyrinth then why is Mira being above him arcs later such a reach?
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Ah, that is so classic Mashima. He loves pulling off these completely illogical moments and explaining them right in the middle of a fight—like Laxus not using his Red Lightning until now. It's totally like Mashima to drop a bit of comic relief between Elfman and Richard, casually chatting about how they forgot to give the books to Mira.Imo it doesn't matter if he forgot it or not. If she use it in the next chapter or in the next two chapters it will be strange. Simple because it doesn't make sense not to use it so far, especially because it makes her stronger, plus she would be able to use Daemons hax magic.
It would be cool if she will use new takeover forms like Daemons or Gates, etc. But it doesn't make much sense to wait for no reasons.
If she can use it, then why not yet? Why waiting? It makes it more stupid and more random if Mashima waits.
And if he just forgot, it would be not better. So anyway the whole situation is bad imo.
The best battles so far are still the ones aganst Earthbuild and Anchor and they are also stronger so far.
If both, Levia and Runner lose in the next chapter it would be more bad than what happened with Motherglare lol

Feats > your calculations. Quite frankly, I don't think there's a single instance in the manga of a dragon being ragdolled like what Mira just did. They were all separated and fighting at entirely different locations. She chucked him from God knows where, and with no signs of visual fatigue. One thing is for sure, all three collectively clap Suzaku. I see you tryna switch agendas and glaze Jellal who is even worse off.The buff may be equal, the point is if you multiply 2 x 2, you will get 4, but if you multiply 2 x 10 you will get 20, a number way higher than 4, do you get it ? Mira has low calculation base, Erza and Laxus had higher calculation base. Besides Laxus did not used RL, even while making fun of Laxus he wouldn't solo, just that he is being done dirty and not getting an upscale
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Just for the people who forget that a far weaker Erza pushed HIMnologia
