Spoiler Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 258 Spoilers & Discussion

[The Prince of Darkness]

So, if you try to restrain the power it ends up exploding.

Still hard for me to believe Jericho and Zeldris are dead but if they are then Lancelot shouldn't get away with a slap on the wrist?

Merlin's waving at you...

They'll just tell him to attone for the rest of his life by serving Arthur probably.


Both Demon King and Supreme Diety powers needed to stop chaos so I can imagine Meliodas and Elizabeth unleashing all their power one last time and reach their God's realm before dying right after

 

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Spoiler: Lancelot vs Behemoth

 

[Rey151203]

Merlin's waving at you...

They'll just tell him to attone for the rest of his life by serving Arthur probably.


Both Demon King and Supreme Diety powers needed to stop chaos so I can imagine Meliodas and Elizabeth unleashing all their power one last time and reach their God's realm before dying right after

This should be something done by the protagonists of the new generation.

 

[tdtd1234]

I really like how Zeldris told Lancelot to not give up because he went through something similar.

 

[Demonspeed]

Merlin's waving at you...

They'll just tell him to attone for the rest of his life by serving Arthur probably.


Both Demon King and Supreme Diety powers needed to stop chaos so I can imagine Meliodas and Elizabeth unleashing all their power one last time and reach their God's realm before dying right after

Merlin didn't really kill anyone though. Lancelot not only chose to get possessed(after criticizing Arthur and Merlin) he is destroyed the realms and presumably killed Zeldris. Nothing they did is comparable to that.

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Great cover page...

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

This should be something done by the protagonists of the new generation.

Defeating and sealing are two different things. The protagonists gonna defeat him but if they need to seal chaos for good it is something that can be left for someone else like Meliodas and Elizabeth sacrificing for the future

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Merlin didn't really kill anyone though. Lancelot not only chose to get possessed(after criticizing Arthur and Merlin) he is destroyed the realms and presumably killed Zeldris. Nothing they did is comparable to that

Isn't she like the reason of the second Holy War, the Unsealing of the Ten Commendments, chaos?
Everything she did behind everything for her gluttony had thousands of casualties if not millions

 

[Demonspeed]

Chaos won't be sealed. Arthur will retrieve it.

Kinda refreshing to see that even though Zeldris was dying, he was thinking about the current situation. Considering how Nakaba does things I expected him to think about his wife etc.

 

[Rey151203]

Chaos won't be sealed. Arthur will retrieve it.

If there's a change in the future, it might show that cath/chaos was sealed in the future, and Arthur will change the future to be able to recover chaos.

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This could even become the purpose of the Holy Grail in the future, and that's why the Knights of the Holy Grail exist, to protect the Holy Grail, because it is within it that chaos is sealed.

This explains why he still exists even with the 4kota weapons made; they used the power of Arthur's blood to subdue the chaos within the chalice containing his blood, which can control chaos.

 

[Tristan]

It's normal for Cath to declare that the Powers of the DK and SD are necessary to seal Chaos .. in the end, Chaos is a being made of Darkness & Light as it was mentioned many times in the 7DS manga.

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Chaos won't be sealed. Arthur will retrieve it.

After all that happened, I very much doubt Arthur would want to retrieve Chaos, since he can't guarantee that he won't lose it again to someone or something who will wreck havoc in the world. The sealing/ Destruction of Chaos seems a more plausible option.

 

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Lancelot's strength is certainly incredible, but Zeldris was undoubtedly weakened by being trapped inside Lancelot's magic vortex.

In other words, Lancelot didn't defeat Zeldris with pure physical strength; rather, he restrained his movements using that vortex.

On the other hand, Escanor completely 'no-diffed' Zeldris—who possessed the power of the Demon King—using nothing but sheer physical strength.

In fact, he did it with just a single finger. So, if you ask me, Escanor's feat is more impressive if we're talking pure physical strength.

Still, I believe Lancelot can power up even further—turning his magic vortex from light colored to dark colored—to reach levels of strength that rival or even surpass Escanor but only if he has a Sacred Treasure.

 

[Demonspeed]

Lancelot's strength is certainly incredible, but Zeldris was undoubtedly weakened by being trapped inside Lancelot's magic vortex.

In other words, Lancelot didn't defeat Zeldris with pure physical strength; rather, he restrained his movements using that vortex.

On the other hand, Escanor completely 'no-diffed' Zeldris—who possessed the power of the Demon King—using nothing but sheer physical strength.

In fact, he did it with just a single finger. So, if you ask me, Escanor's feat is more impressive.

Still, I believe Lancelot can power up even further—turning his magic vortex from light colored to dark colored—to reach levels of strength that rival or even surpass Escanor but only if he has a Sacred Treasure.

??? The vortex is Lancelot's ability so it doesn't really matter. That's his win. He would be much weaker without Chaos however.

 

[Rey151203]

After all that happened, I very much doubt Arthur would want to retrieve Chaos, since he can't guarantee that he won't lose it again to someone or something who will wreck havoc in the world. The sealing/ Destruction of Chaos seems a more plausible option

Or maybe break it up somewhere, who knows.

It would be interesting if the author, not wanting to finish the story yet, delivered the final blow to Cath, instead of simply destroying him, unleashing chaos throughout the world.

 

[sairoki]

With his divine mode Yes he is, officially he is near full chaos level.

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Taking a comment from one of Nakaba’s Q&As more seriously than five statements from the manga is bullshit. Meliodas at his peak is >= the Demon King, yet in a serious fight, he would be humiliated by him.

 

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??? The vortex is Lancelot's ability so it doesn't really matter. That's his win. He would be much weaker without Chaos however.

I was only comparing physical strength.

I also don't think the Chaos buff matters that much in Lancelot's case; in my opinion, a Sacred Treasure buff would be far better for him.

We already saw how his weapon broke to pieces after just one 'Shining Road' and a few attacks from Zeldris, who kept cutting it up.

There is no way that weapon is on the level of a Dubs-made Sacred Treasure.

The only real advantage of the Chaos Spear is its ability to regenerate, making it useful for sustained combat.

 

[Rey151203]

Taking a comment from one of Nakaba’s Q&As more seriously than five statements from the manga is bullshit. Meliodas at his peak is >= the Demon King, yet in a serious fight, he would be humiliated by him.

Yes, because Tite Kubo is the one who writes the manga, right? Nakaba is only there to answer questions, so lol, what kind of argument is that?

But if you want statements within the work, okay, we have the supreme deity stating that Meliodas could easily finish her off, Meliodas destroying the Demon King's arm without any difficulty, even if he only had half the power there, I highly doubt the outcome would change.

Meliodas true magic simply sweep away the 2 gods

 

[sairoki]

Yes, because Tite Kubo is the one who writes the manga, right? Nakaba is only there to answer questions, so lol, what kind of argument is that?

But if you want statements within the work, okay, we have the supreme deity stating that Meliodas could easily finish her off, Meliodas destroying the Demon King's arm without any difficulty, even if he only had half the power there, I highly doubt the outcome would change.

Meliodas true magic simply sweep away the 2 gods

The Supreme Deity never said that he could defeat her easily; she only said that he could defeat her. Zeldris adds that they wouldn’t face *that* much difficulty—in other words, even if Meliodas still possessed the TMF, Zeldris would still help in defeating the Supreme Deity.

 

[Eiiyuu Yami]

If Zeldris dies, Cringealot should hide under a rock for the rest of his life. What a clown

 

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True Magic Meliodas being stated to be close to Hawk Mama in power is obviously a joke.

Hawk Mama is just Chaos in its sealed state, and since Derieri 'no-diffed' her, Nakaba was clearly joking.

To be honest, while True Magic Meliodas would easily defeat the Supreme Deity due to his destruction hax, he wouldn't be able to win against his father.

The Demon King's 'The Ruler' ability would protect him from Meliodas's hax, turning the fight into a pure clash of physical strength.

Something tells me Meliodas wouldn't be able to physically overwhelm his gigantic father—at least not when the Demon King was in his prime.

The Demon King in his Original body in Purgatory was treating Immortal Ban like a bug , this version is stronger than the 10 commandment version.

Ban was sort of putting up a fight against the 10 Commandment demon king.

Hell , the Demon King still has options , he could still use offensive magic agaisnt Meliodas if he keeps him from using his full counter but the ruler is passive so he'll be fine.

The Demon King simply has the advantage.

 

[sairoki]

True Magic Meliodas being stated to be close to Hawk Mama in power is obviously a joke.

Hawk Mama is just Chaos in its sealed state, and since Derieri 'no-diffed' her, Nakaba was clearly joking.

To be honest, while True Magic Meliodas would easily defeat the Supreme Deity due to his destruction hax, he wouldn't be able to win against his father.

The Demon King's 'The Ruler' ability would protect him from Meliodas's hax, turning the fight into a pure clash of physical strength.

Something tells me Meliodas wouldn't be able to physically overwhelm his gigantic father—at least not when the Demon King was in his prime.

The Demon King in his Original body in Purgatory was treating Immortal Ban like a bug , this version is stronger than the 10 commandment version.

Ban was sort of putting up a fight against the 10 Commandment demon king.

Hell , the Demon King still has options , he could still use offensive magic agaisnt Meliodas if he keeps him from using his full counter but the ruler is passive so he'll be fine.

The Demon King simply has the advantage.

Once again, Meliodas (TMF) wouldn't defeat the Supreme Deity easily; that is pure speculation. And DK In Meliodas Body 50% > Ban post purgatory

 

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Once again, Meliodas (TMF) wouldn't defeat the Supreme Deity easily; that is pure speculation. And DK In Meliodas Body 50% > Ban post purgatory

I can't see how she'd survive him , he'll easily destroy her , she has no protection against his hax.

But I guess she could instantly regenerate with perfect time but how long will that last ?

DK in Meliodas's body is certainly stronger than Immortal Ban but the question is how he's gonna defeat him , he's immortal after all.

DK Purgatory version could easily overhwhelm Ban , Ban couldn't even make him bleed , he was like a bug to him.

While the Britannia version bleeds and still sort of physically struggles.