Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1198 Spoiler Discussion

[Rein Avara]

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[korwinkrulpolski]

Another transformation or Luffy just used G5 in creative way? That would be boring. Besides, after TS Luffy wins almost every major fight with transformation... Like it is Dragon Ball.

If Nika took over it would be much better. We'll see about the color of hagoromo, if it is dark, it would explain a lot.

 

[Admiral Teach]

I don't know, I kind of hope the transformation part about Luffy turns out to be false. Though it would not surprise me given we are shown essentially a dark/light Nika exists within Elbaph lore.

 

[Reyes]

Monkey King D Luffy or Monking D Luffy?

 

[Pirate Queen]

 

[Juin Jutsu Team]

So… Imu turns into the monster we see on the mural… hybrid Loki it’s just useless, but some other spoiler provider said that Hybrid Loki is definitely stronger than gear 5 Luffy.
Monkey Luffy/Nika brings back the parrot’s theory

 

[Keeper of Jericho]

Sure, why not. Transformations on sale for everybody!

 

[Tonix]

Is this G6?

 

[Neala897]

Is this G6?

No its G5.2

 

[Imfamux]

So… Imu turns into the monster we see on the mural… hybrid Loki it’s just useless, but some other spoiler provider said that Hybrid Loki is definitely stronger than gear 5 Luffy.
Monkey Luffy/Nika brings back the parrot’s theory

I don't think YET he turns into the monster in the mural.. if eh has 5 pair of horns, it will be he "last" maybe form - BUT - if not..

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I'm 10000000% Hyped up - i NEVER EVER Expected this to happen at all - but i really don't understand possible hate - every shonen MC has multiple multiple forms - and this ALWAYS happen !

 

[Kizaruuu]

Ever since the evil Nika was revealed I had the thought that Luffy might turn into some sort of Evil Version!! Now that he awakened his devil fruit and exhausted it to its limit, it does make sense for the real animal to take charge!!!
One shouting a monster no one was able to defeat is impressive. Let’s see how he turns out against final form Imu!!!!! There might really be a Chance for him to get his butt handled by Luffy!!!
Nice for Oda to not let us down by revealing silhouettes!!!
Another thing might be the treasure of Lily, what if there is some sort of drum that turns Luffy into his normal form or lets say Golden Ape Goku turning into Ssj4 style where Luffy masteres his beast form!!
So many new possibilities!!
That break hits hard!!!!!

 

[AmyRose]

Hmm, it seems like Luffy really lost control. Although I don't think it's out of malice, will of his devil fruit is probably just trying to help him. But the thing is freedom can also turn into chaos. Also fact that Loki despit finally turning into his hybrid form got squashed is very unfortunate but since we're approaching round number big show of his power is probably left for chapter 1200. Espesially since Imus minions are on the run because they're about to die. Btw, how many forms does Imu have up his sleeve? He's literally pulling them out like he is some RPG boss. It's honestly getting little annoying.

 

[Vapor dude]

Now he is truly MONKEY d luffy!

 

[Tonix]

Btw, how many forms does Imu have up his sleeve? He's literally pulling them out like he is some RPG boss. It's honestly getting little annoying.

This isn’t even his final form!

But to be serious, he does have like 12-13 magic weapons to reveal, one of which is going to be his own sword, which is sure to be like super magic.

 

[kcd]

Luffy losing control is underwhelming as fuck, because whatever impressive feat he performs in that state is not his but the fruit’s. At a time when his wings are gaining strength that they can control, Oda is offshoring Luffy’s strength to his fruit which is very distasteful. If he can’t upgrade his Haki just yet, then at least, for a start, let him outgrow the five minutes time limit before jumping into yet another transformation that he still can’t control.

I’ll wait for the chapter though, since I at least hope it’s like when he confirmed to Kaido that it was still him in gear 5. But judging by the spoilers, this isn’t Luffy piloting his body, but a totally different consciousness... which makes this distasteful since it's the opposite of what Luffy stands for.

 

[giovanyL]

would be interesting if this the devil fruit full animal transformation like any other zoan fruit we have seen so far. Cos until now luffy only manipulated his body and soon we might have a hybrid from as well.

 

[korwinkrulpolski]

What hybrid? Technically hybrid form for Luffy is just rubber body. He shouldn’t have a hybrid form uncovered now because it would contradict whole „awakening is being alligned mentally with df”

 

[Federicoxxx]

What hybrid? Technically hybrid form for Luffy is just rubber body. He shouldn’t have a hybrid form uncovered now because it would contradict whole „awakening is being alligned mentally with df”

I think is Full Uncontrolled Zoan...mode..

 

[AmyRose]

Luffy losing control is underwhelming as fuck, because whatever impressive feat he performs in that state is not his but the fruit’s. At a time when his wings are gaining strength that they can control, Oda is offshoring Luffy’s strength to his fruit which is very distasteful. If he can’t upgrade his Haki just yet, then at least, for a start, let him outgrow the five minutes time limit before jumping into yet another transformation that he still can’t control.

I’ll wait for the chapter though, since I at least hope it’s like when he confirmed to Kaido that it was still him in gear 5. But judging by the spoilers, this isn’t Luffy piloting his body, but a totally different consciousness... which makes this distasteful since it's the opposite of what Luffy stands for.

Yeah, I agree. That's why I hope he will wake up like half way through and go back to fighting Imu. Though it's curious that he went after Zaza specificly. Mayby instincts were suggesting him that he have to stop her first before she successfully kidnap the children? Killingham probably ordered her to get children that weren't saved yet to the ship. But that won't help much because even if Sommers is still alive he won't be able to finish the mission. Anyway I kinda feel like Luffy losing control for a second already happened once before. I recently finished rewatching Wano and back when G5 first awakened Luffy forgot what even happened to him before that but he immedietly regained control and get back to fighting Kaido. This time may be little bit more complicated but I'm sure things will go back to normal because either someone will help him wake up or will do that on his own by remembering his current goals.



Btw, I'm still not disapointed with Loki. He's beaten badly so things would go diffrently if he WASN'T. Also I think he just waited bit too long with turning into hybrid form. He was fighting quite long both in his regular form and dragon form so he's probably just running out of steam. Yeah, I kinda wish he could regulate his power level better because like he said it himself being THIS big can be problematic. Honestly it would be very helpful for him if he really could shrink to make it easier to fight small opponents or limit damage caused by his attacks.

 

[Imfamux]

Ever since the evil Nika was revealed I had the thought that Luffy might turn into some sort of Evil Version!! Now that he awakened his devil fruit and exhausted it to its limit, it does make sense for the real animal to take charge!!!
One shouting a monster no one was able to defeat is impressive. Let’s see how he turns out against final form Imu!!!!! There might really be a Chance for him to get his butt handled by Luffy!!!
Nice for Oda to not let us down by revealing silhouettes!!!
Another thing might be the treasure of Lily, what if there is some sort of drum that turns Luffy into his normal form or lets say Golden Ape Goku turning into Ssj4 style where Luffy masteres his beast form!!
So many new possibilities!!
That break hits hard!!!!!

I think it will be something like this, with his final form looking like SSJ actually - Sun God with his full halo of fire in his back !

This isn’t even his final form!

But to be serious, he does have like 12-13 magic weapons to reveal, one of which is going to be his own sword, which is sure to be like super magic.

Exactly.. i doubt we've saw the minimun of his power - everything he did right now he is under constantly damage hp - and mayve even with some type of block in his power output i guess