Games Mafia Game 145 - Vampire Crawlers - END GAME

[SirSamuel016]

I never said it's been a focus all day, I thought English is your first language Sam I just said let's not make it one and look everywhere to make a balanced decision. I'm not done with my reread situation so I'll get back to your question in a little bit~

I'm just tired innit

 

[Copy Panda]

*Meta talk:


Why did you vote Lawl instead of Nash?

I wouldn't call Vanilla tricky tbh, just lock in and give it your best crack

proposing a feasible strategy in a small game is meta talk?

you'd call restless spirit tricky? die and vote?

btw for all your accusations, you could have killed me just as easily; you wasted a vote on nashy who i dont think was hot on the chopping block nor did she make any insubstantial statements. imo the only alternative i offered an actual reasoning for was tatsu, who likewise was not on the chopping block

youre grasping at straws

 

[SirSamuel016]

Bruh is Lawl getting lynched just for voting Sam and giving an extra hint instead of just saying "active"?

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The problem with him is adding one extra sentence?

Why is everyone treating different = suspicious?

yes the whole point of the game is doing that

how is it random? I gave a proper explanation

Your only idea so far is voting Lawl because he was the 2nd vote on someone? You need me to bring up something in order for you to think anything else?

I've been poking plenty of people

votekill vali x lucifer

I'm not liking any of the votes on Lawl but his in particular has the poorest explanation. Kakoha and Pom presented their OWN train of thoughts (that I don't agree at all but have at least logic in them) whereas Vali's further explanation of "it's less random" doesn't have any and is seemingly just following someone else.

@Kakoha ?

 

[Natasha]

At the risk of being accused of ragebaiting, I can't submit your vote for you and to me you had a choice to change your mind and go Copan.

I had the choice sure but you also had the choice to go Copan and avoid this situation entirely. You contradict yourself immediately the next day by accusing people of voting out an active instead of Copan, continuing to push Copan, yet your vote yesterday basically secured either Me Lawl or Copa get lynched.

You forced the situation where I vote the person I distrust because it works best for you.

 

[Lady pompom]

binding you ?
1st thing, it's not a list, it's just you suspecting lawl, just lawl, not really a list
second, you said piling votes is sus, then after that you changed your vote from someone who piled his vote to someone who didn't XD
just make it make sense

No, you didnt, this is what I mean with your posts sound malicious like mafia framing someone.
1. Why are you relating my observation that people piling votes is suspicious with mu vote choice?
2. Me voting you had nothing to do with who piled votes it was your extremely scummy posts.
3.yes, the moment you suspect me for voting someone else that was not mentioned in my first few posts as suspects, you’re kinda binding me to vote the first people I suspected or I’ll be “sus” in your book. In other words I should either not say anything or ONLY say my suspects after a whole day of interactions when I am more likely to have a better idea of suspects

 

[SirSamuel016]

proposing a feasible strategy in a small game is meta talk?

Yes because I said so

you'd call restless spirit tricky? die and vote?

I mean for Lawl it'd be playing it right so its effective and then used well so yeah. Knowing him and his playstyle it makes sense contextually- I think you could agree on that too if you're being genuine

btw for all your accusations, you could have killed me just as easily; you wasted a vote on nashy who i dont think was hot on the chopping block nor did she make any insubstantial statements. imo the only alternative i offered an actual reasoning for was tatsu, who likewise was not on the chopping block

Didn't have to be a waste but you and the others condemned Lawl instead of going for her who had some stench to her. You certainly didn't have to vote Lawl to save yourself at that point- I even responded to your questioning after the vote saying I'd locked Nash so that could be a play and you ignored it to scratch and sniff your bunghole for five or so minutes

youre grasping at straws

Nah, I'm making you work and do something which is important because I'm not gonna give passive pan a free pass for nonchalant bullshit thats just coasting along. I'm still yet to see you do much to further the game hence why I'm prodding you to get you moving and hopefully avoid your feigned clueless d1 display

 

[Lady pompom]

Oh, and Hardy was on my first suspect list, but given how he aclled out people for voting lawl, before lawl flipped town and his posts that were agreeable, I lean town

 

[Marmalade]

Sam considering you are so suspicious feeling of Panda right now, what made you vote for Nash yesterday? Considering she was on the maybe place here, with some players like Pommie being more suspicious for you. What made you think differently? I don't see you really explaining what changed for you I mean.
(This post I mean posttt)

 

[Hardy]

@Kakoha ?

Damn look at all those arguments town reading Lawl like.... and.... and....

 

[Marmalade]

Oh, and Hardy was on my first suspect list, but given how he aclled out people for voting lawl, before lawl flipped town and his posts that were agreeable, I lean town

I'm a bit on the fence with Hardy. He's leaning town for me as well, his posts seem decent enough but he's a bum and a strong player. I think he can pull off a bit of lying. Nothing really screams that way but I think it's good to be wary.

 

[SirSamuel016]

I had the choice sure but you also had the choice to go Copan and avoid this situation entirely. You contradict yourself immediately the next day by accusing people of voting out an active instead of Copan, continuing to push Copan, yet your vote yesterday basically secured either Me Lawl or Copa get lynched.

You forced the situation where I vote the person I distrust because it works best for you.

Because that was totally my intention and I didn't just vote for who I thought was a better option than Lawl

It was a toss-up between you and Pan; yes I commited the same sins that I accused others of but I still think you could've done better. Heck,

I did also say I was happy to be day 1 fodder to save Lawl given the votes on me but no one pursued that either fwiw

 

[Kakoha]

@Kakoha ?

thank you
I remember there being more, even after the vote, but those are enough already to show how @Hardy was not just disagreeing, someone who disagrees will not post that much about a single person.
he did not try a single time to disagree with the ppl that voted sam, even tho they didn't even give a reason for it. and he voted vali because he did not had a good enough of a reason .. yeah what about degojaru then, or even lawl himself ?
gotta admit tho that in this game we can't say anything is 100% but based on this, hardy was trying to tie himself to a green to paint himself green as well
no matter how much you @Hardy say that you didn't actually trust lawl and you were just against the logic of the votes themselves, your own vote and behavior say otherwise.

with that said, I'm open to discussing other ppl and better leads

 

[SirSamuel016]

Damn look at all those arguments town reading Lawl like.... and.... and....

yeahhh I dunno what Kako is cooking because it just looks like you townreading lawl a bit and not seeing a major reason to distrust him in comparison to the others

I mean, you could've done it to look good if you suspected he'd be lynched but I don't think the game was that far along for you to decide that was a result you could get to then

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I'm a bit on the fence with Hardy. He's leaning town for me as well, his posts seem decent enough but he's a bum and a strong player. I think he can pull off a bit of lying. Nothing really screams that way but I think it's good to be wary.

I'd be fucked if I can remember off the top of my head tbh, it was more of a gut feel thing iirc but it felt right at the time with what was going on

Lemme retrace my steps and see what I said

 

[Natasha]

Damn look at all those arguments town reading Lawl like.... and.... and....

What did you do other than green read and not defend someone that flipped green

 

[SirSamuel016]

nash was pissing around until recently, vali contributing some semi-vain explanations, and then fuck all from degs

Votelock Nash

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backing my gut on nash but might regret not going bhai

maybe it was her list

 

[Hardy]

What did you do other than green read and not defend someone that flipped green

red read (?) the voters and called you out for doing nothing, and only then you started playing the game. Sounds like plenty to me

 

[Natasha]

Because that was totally my intention and I didn't just vote for who I thought was a better option than Lawl

It was a toss-up between you and Pan; yes I commited the same sins that I accused others of but I still think you could've done better.

Yeah, I coulda done better. I read too much into too little on Lawl.

I'd believe you on voting with your gut if it wasn't so sleezy.
How your gut tells you to follow onto me with a placeholder vote from tatsu instead of the panda you've been pushing and continue to push is not believable.

If your gut only kicks in when voting and you instead champion other causes all day why should I ever trust that

 

[Kakoha]

1. Why are you relating my observation that people piling votes is suspicious with mu vote choice?

?? huh
what is the point of observation if you're not going to commit to it ?

2. Me voting you had nothing to do with who piled votes it was your extremely scummy posts.

care to elaborate ? you keep saying that but I can't see why my posts are scummy ? this is how I talk. I didn't play with you that much, so idk how you decided that now I'm not playing like my town self

3.yes, the moment you suspect me for voting someone else that was not mentioned in my first few posts as suspects, you’re kinda binding me to vote the first people I suspected or I’ll be “sus” in your book. In other words I should either not say anything or ONLY say my suspects after a whole day of interactions when I am more likely to have a better idea of suspects

no, you can sus whoever u want. but give actual reasons. I changed too, but I didn't go and say "hey btw I still think lawl is very sus on how he stacked the vote ... anyways, votelock randomperson". u gotta elaborate right away on your vote, not after being asked 1000 time and still saying the same argumen "seemed scummy", or my most favourite line I hate "gut feeling" Xp if you say any of those without elaborating any further, u admit to not wanting to give actual reasons and that your motives are hidden atm. which could have been okay if it wasn't day 1 and we still had 0 info from roles Xp

 

[Hardy]

thank you
I remember there being more, even after the vote, but those are enough already to show how @Hardy was not just disagreeing, someone who disagrees will not post that much about a single person.
he did not try a single time to disagree with the ppl that voted sam, even tho they didn't even give a reason for it. and he voted vali because he did not had a good enough of a reason .. yeah what about degojaru then, or even lawl himself ?
gotta admit tho that in this game we can't say anything is 100% but based on this, hardy was trying to tie himself to a green to paint himself green as well
no matter how much you @Hardy say that you didn't actually trust lawl and you were just against the logic of the votes themselves, your own vote and behavior say otherwise.

with that said, I'm open to discussing other ppl and better leads

What are you talking about lmfao

What was the politician talk from yesterday?

I also explained already why the votes on Sam bugged me less but you are trying to make an agenda without actually reading my posts.

I'd much rather have a player openly admit they are voting randomly than follow someone else and give no arguments. Because that removes their own agency in their decisions.



IT'S EXPLAINED IN THE VOTE

 

[SirSamuel016]

Sam considering you are so suspicious feeling of Panda right now, what made you vote for Nash yesterday? Considering she was on the maybe place here, with some players like Pommie being more suspicious for you. What made you think differently? I don't see you really explaining what changed for you I mean.
(This post I mean posttt)

If I'm retracing my thoughts correctly, Nash was pissing around about per what I wrote before Hardy used the cattle prodder to shock her into doing more than just making bone jokes so idk

In a way it was the same territory of nonchalant non-contributive behaviour you saw in d1 pan before she started to get going and provided a sus list that I disagreed with. Like I could've and probably should've gone Panda in hindsight but idk, the gut said what it said and I went for it. Can't do more than that in the moment I'm afraid

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Yeah, I coulda done better. I read too much into too little on Lawl.

Yes and yes I'll admit I coulda been better too