Games Mafia Game 145 - Vampire Crawlers - Day 3

[Marmalade]

@Kakoha what makes you feel Pom is being contradictory exactly? She's been relatively consistent in her sus lists, she does mention a couple of them (not just Lawl). The only thing that stood out to me yesterday was her vote switch.

You said this to her earlier as a reason but I really don't see it, even going back after her posts. Perhaps I've missed it, but I just see her thinking out loud. Which is what a lot of us do.

no, it's not just getting more ppl you suspect
you changed your list while in the same post giving reason that would apply on your old list more than your new one.

 

[Hardy]

Also if you go back to past games statistically Lawl is like the comfiest lynch for scums day 1 he can't catch a break lmao

 

[Marmalade]

Okay homies I gotta go or else I'll be late and without eyebrows. That'd scare everyone

 

[Natasha]

maybe it was her list

Okay, you don't like my list
Pom thinks its upside down

I don't trust you and I've picked my bone with pom but I doubt you're both mafia gassing me here so what is wrong with my read on the game.

I whiffed on Lawl but the rest of my reads feel good to me minus you being high up and Dego/Tatsu getting stale cause I haven't seen more from them.

 

[SirSamuel016]

I'd believe you on voting with your gut if it wasn't so sleezy.
How your gut tells you to follow onto me with a placeholder vote from tatsu instead of the panda you've been pushing and continue to push is not believable.

If your gut only kicks in when voting and you instead champion other causes all day why should I ever trust that

Sometimes you've just gotta get a shot up and pray when the shot clock is about to expire y'know #ballerlife

Okay homies I gotta go or else I'll be late and without eyebrows. That'd scare everyone

geez you're already a fucking midget and now you'll lose your eyebrows? thats fucked up

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Okay, you don't like my list
Pom thinks its upside down

I don't trust you and I've picked my bone with pom but I doubt you're both mafia gassing me here so what is wrong with my read on the game.

I whiffed on Lawl but the rest of my reads feel good to me minus you being high up and Dego/Tatsu getting stale cause I haven't seen more from them.

it is on brand for town nash to distrust her correct reads and trust her wrong ones I guess

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Also if you go back to past games statistically Lawl is like the comfiest lynch for scums day 1 he can't catch a break lmao

yeah fax no machine

 

[Hardy]

I'll go ahead and votekill Kakoha. He's making no sense arguing in bad faith against pretty much everyone and left a mess at EoD without properly chasing me or trying to move people towards me or anything.

 

[Kakoha]

What was the politician talk from yesterday?

isn't that how politicians talk/behave ? they undirectly push something without directly mentioning, and your case, the repetitive mention of how wrong lawl's voters are and the vote based on that is directly used to then try to green yourself in case of lawl lynch or night kill.
no town would try so hard for someone who they are not sure of
imagine if you are town, and u push on lawl who would then flip red. that would put u in a very sus position, ESPECIALLY day 1, you still didn't hear anough from lawl or see nay results/claims to bet that much
at this point I'm repeating my self 1000 times and Imma keep it at that. unless you have anything new, I want to explore more leads

 

[Hardy]

isn't that how politicians talk/behave ? they undirectly push something without directly mentioning, and your case, the repetitive mention of how wrong lawl's voters are and the vote based on that is directly used to then try to green yourself in case of lawl lynch or night kill.
no town would try so hard for someone who they are not sure of
imagine if you are town, and u push on lawl who would then flip red. that would put u in a very sus position, ESPECIALLY day 1, you still didn't hear anough from lawl or see nay results/claims to bet that much
at this point I'm repeating my self 1000 times and Imma keep it at that. unless you have anything new, I want to explore more leads

This is bs but you couldn't say this yesterday because...?

I didn't even try hard you are talking as if I have 100 posts

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alot of stuff
I'll dive into more details tomorrow if I stay alive
but basically you talked like a politician would, bunch of stuff that would look okayat first sight but clearly has hidden motives if you really read into it

.

 

[Kakoha]

@Kakoha what makes you feel Pom is being contradictory exactly? She's been relatively consistent in her sus lists, she does mention a couple of them (not just Lawl). The only thing that stood out to me yesterday was her vote switch.

You said this to her earlier as a reason but I really don't see it, even going back after her posts. Perhaps I've missed it, but I just see her thinking out loud. Which is what a lot of us do.

okay my bad, it wasn't the same post, it just felt like it seeing how close they are

so in post 82 she said this to lawl

I did, don’t trust your role hint/claims.

aftera few posts I posted this

yeah that's my fear too
I voted him when he had 0 votes and look at him now
I wonder if he would have gotten those votes if I didn't vote him first hmm

which makes it obvious I will probably switch vote at some point
and after a few posts (and I didn't vote more at this point, that was my only post), pom posted this

The problem is the whole hint thay somehow a tricky role that he will need time to see what he can do I can only think mafia In such a smol game.

It’s unrelated to people not giving enough claims (yeah, they should become pig rosti for that). In fact I think Panda has been rather avoidant too, as in the lower end of engaging.

Kakoha’s posts also read rather scummy to me like when he was mafia with me last game.

that said, I will give Lawl the benefit of the doubt simply because you and him said things that make sense as town imo.

votelock kakoha

so idk how that post convinced her I'm scummy but anyways, not very much after that (literally 5 posts after that) she posted this :

I wouldn’t say nobody defended lawl, but piling votes are generally something to raise your brow at unless it’s a confirmed mafia.

so she still thinks lawl is sus hmm
idk about you, but something felt so off for me. the posts don't quite align.

 

[Hardy]

 

[Kakoha]

at EoD without properly chasing me or trying to move people towards me or anything.

oh yeah, my bad for not starting a train on you
and YOU don't talk about EoD, okay? XD you whole excuse for that is that u didn't know it will end, like give me a break, you're a veteran XD

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This is bs but you couldn't say this yesterday because...?

I did tho ?
like u want that exact wording ?

 

[Hardy]

oh yeah, my bad for not starting a train on you
and YOU don't talk about EoD, okay? XD you whole excuse for that is that u didn't know it will end, like give me a break, you're a veteran XD

Well yes you should have instead of half assing it and saying you'd go into details today to then... not go into details.

True I'm infallible.

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I did tho ?
like u want that exact wording ?

Literally quoted the post saying you weren't explaining

 

[Kakoha]

Well yes you should have instead of half assing it and saying you'd go into details today to then... not go into details.

True I'm infallible.

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Literally quoted the post saying you weren't explaining

I'm really tired
idk what more details u want, we pulled your posts and I gave all my reasons and you still think I'm not explaining, like bruh stop. all you've been saying since day start is "you're not explaining", "this is nonesense" and "I akchuwly did not trust lawl"

 

[Hardy]

I'm really tired
idk what more details u want, we pulled your posts and I gave all my reasons and you still think I'm not explaining, like bruh stop. all you've been saying since day start is "you're not explaining", "this is nonesense" and "I akchuwly did not trust lawl"

You could had written a bs post like the one you did today but yesterday, especially if you wanted me lynched. Instead you said you'd "go into details"... to then post pretty much the same thing as yesterday but rambling.

"We". No. Sam pulled the posts and agreed you were looking into nothing.

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hardy is gonna benifit a lot from this hahaha

I'm 100% convinced you knew Lawl was town and didn't want people to chase you after his lynch.

 

[Natasha]

it is on brand for town nash to distrust her correct reads and trust her wrong ones I guess

I refuse to let that be my reputation.

So lets broaden and solve.

so she still thinks lawl is sus hmm
idk about you, but something felt so off for me. the posts don't quite align.

They don't and that's noteworthy but I'm not seeing much more than that discrepancy from her.

To trust Sam I have to accept he tried to put me in a bonegrinder for vibes and giggles then got selective amnesia on my active hint.

Vali/Dego/Tatsu aren't around much.

Nat is always laying down an apparently perfect speech but man i will never allow myself to get fu*** over by trusting her, like she has a superpower for sounding like the best/worst gaslighter at the same time

You literally refused to read my posts last game and I was town please just don't do that again.

Having chatted a bit with Panda after last game, on vibes, i would read him more green than red, I liked the initial reasoning on the claim strategy, seemed quite cooperative.

Pom lock on Kakoha looks weird to me, but not sussing her too much for now

Lawl, I think he had a decent reply, I read him more green than red now but i don't know him, need to see what others think, and being day one basically everyone looks more green than red to me so idk.

Pan Green > Red, Lawl Green > Red, Me gaslighter why did you stay on Lawl and not move to me with Sam? Out of the 3 wagons yesterday sounds like you'd want me out.

Last game I didn't thought too much in my votes and ended voting townies and avoiding maf so gonna think them better before locking

Lock in bud @Degojaru

@Tatsumaki sent you recap pls respond

 

[Kakoha]

You could had written a bs post like the one you did today but yesterday, especially if you wanted me lynched. Instead you said you'd "go into details"... to then post pretty much the same thing as yesterday but rambling.

so I didn't want you to get lynched ?
I said I'd go more into details because there was like 10mins on the clock. u want to call that rambling, sure, whatever you want, but that's details for me.

I'm 100% convinced you knew Lawl was town and didn't want people to chase you after his lynch.

no, I changed from lawl because I changed my opinion on him, and seeing you not trying to save him lead to the obvious conclusion that it's benefiting you so much.
btw, the ppl that could have saved lawl are you, degojaru and tatsu. from this list, you're the only one who spoke about how much lawl is green. yet you chose to not save him and have the "I didn't notice the time" excuse instead

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I told Kako post is sus, will elaborate another time

did that nother time come yet ?

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votekill pompom

her behaviour is more scummy then hardy's at this point, so Imma vote now because I'm gonna dissapear a little now, I will come backway before day end

oh wow, so much fun, day end is at 2 am
I probably won't be around day end
also @Hardy the day ends at min 20 not sharp, don't play dumb this time around

 

[Lady pompom]

did that nother time come yet ?

I just told you that your posts are worded and crafted maliciously, dissected questions for you to answer which you ignored purposefully, and then you tell me I did not address why I find your posts suspicious. Go backread the thread, when you find my posts, address myq questions and stop pretending I didn’t say anything, we can talk.

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Votekill Kakoha, I’m actually convinced you are scum with how evasive you are to address the questions posed

 

[Copy Panda]

That was exactly my problem with him, he's there to post but doesn't really say much. Did not feel like a townie trying to gain more information.

i was asking questions when i showed up

I'm going to catch up properly in a bit, I was still working/cycling home when the last hourish went down so didn't read that very closely. I will be required for some social activities this afternoon but after that my attention can be undivided and here~

youre awfully quiet, maybe a claim or hint before you go

 

[Vali x lucifer]

He was one of five active claimers including yourself but you thought lynching an active role that could've been important was better than going after a suspicious person with a passive claim??? The cost/benefit doesn't add up if you're town imo

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From the looks of it he also didn't say more about his role because he thought he wouldn't die:

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Like yes it wasn't a town investigative role but still holy fuck, gambling on a T!Active for a lynch when some scums could and probably have claimed passive is just stupid

I first tagged him, and then gave him the assist with another post to tip me off in case he thought my reasoning was completely off base or could hurt Town really bad, i didn't get any feedback on it.

Then I needed to cast a vote at night time before sleep when in the morning I had to work, i literally didn't have time to go deep in discussion afterwards until the day ended.

I advised people to be careful in following my vote as I also wasn't sure about Lawl, then during the decisive moments I literally didn't do anything to bring people onto Lawl and I saw like 3 people tied on lynch like 5 min before day end. I say sorry because it's also my fault that we lost a Townie but honestly, i don't think I played it particularly bad.

 

[Copy Panda]

i was asking questions when i showed up



youre awfully quiet, maybe a claim or hint before you go

oh marm actually did talk a bit mb, but a hint would be kind