Chapter Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 260 Spoilers & Discussion

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Honestly, I think True Magic Meliodas is too much, even for Chaos Lancelot. He's got that destruction hax with him, and there's no countering that.

There's no need for 4KOTA if True Magic Meliodas is around; the villains are cooked, and he removes tension way worse than Lancelot.

Besides, I don't think there's a reasonable way for Meliodas to get back the power he already sacrificed. Zeldris simply entrusted his people to his brother
Life force, meliodas can nerf him
 

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2 things i still want answered why liz never got a grace yet mel got a commandment? an "EARTH" grace would work well for liz .
and how did a 4 wing angel nanahsi ( arc angel lvl) get banished. maybe he had a grace and lost it in a dual
 

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2 things i still want answered why liz never got a grace yet mel got a commandment? an "EARTH" grace would work well for liz .
and how did a 4 wing angel nanahsi ( arc angel lvl) get banished. maybe he had a grace and lost it in a dual
Earth Grace? Earth magic is the domain of giants—like Diane, for example.

I like your idea about Nanashi losing his Grace in battle. Actually, I like this entire concept of Graces being won through duels with the previous holder.

Perhaps that's how Graces are earned: you have to defeat the previous holder, and the loser either dies or gets banished.

And the reason Elizabeth didn't get one is that she didn't want to kill or banish anyone.

Although, I find it a bit hard to believe they would banish such powerful Goddesses just because they lost their Graces.
 

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2 things i still want answered why liz never got a grace yet mel got a commandment? an "EARTH" grace would work well for liz .
and how did a 4 wing angel nanahsi ( arc angel lvl) get banished. maybe he had a grace and lost it in a dual
She got an asspull SD form like Meliodas DK form...I think that is enough kol
 

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2 things i still want answered why liz never got a grace yet mel got a commandment? an "EARTH" grace would work well for liz .
Because there are only 4 Graces, and Elizabeth isn't really a warrior (she only fights when necessary), giving one to her would be a waste.


and how did a 4 wing angel nanahsi ( arc angel lvl) get banished. maybe he had a grace and lost it in a dual
It is highly unlikely, in fact, practically impossible for Nanashi to have been a former wielder of a "Grace."

According to the Character Guide: Britannia's Heroes Life, the ages of the Archangels are as follows:
Ludociel: 6,000 years old
Sariel and Tarmiel: 5,000 years old
Mael: 3,500 years old

Whioe Nanashi is also 3,500 years old, roughly the same age as Mael, and significantly younger than the others.

He is, in all likelihood, simply an exceptionally gifted and powerful individual within the Clan who disagreed with the SD’s way of doing things (this can be inferred from his thoughts, which Lancelot was able to read). He ended up opposing the SD, which led to his punishment. (After all, the SD even cursed her own daughter, Elizabeth, a curse that caused her to suffer for 3,000 years)
 

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You mean an asspull SD form like Meliodas asspull DK form, right?
The biggest issue with this forms is that they literally render everything Meliodas and Elizabeth went through completely meaningless.

So Elizabeth possesses a form on the same power level as the SD, and Meliodas has one that’s even stronger, yet neither of them ever thought to use these forms while fighting the DK and the SD, or even to break their curses?

There is no other explanation other than that they are both masochistic idiots.

That like if it were revealed in the next chapters that King had some "Sacred Tree" form for the start of 7ds story that puts him on the same level as the DK and SD, but he never used it because... well, there’s no reason, he just didn't.
 

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The biggest issue with this forms is that they literally render everything Meliodas and Elizabeth went through completely meaningless.

So Elizabeth possesses a form on the same power level as the SD, and Meliodas has one that’s even stronger, yet neither of them ever thought to use these forms while fighting the DK and the SD, or even to break their curses?

There is no other explanation other than that they are both masochistic idiots.

That like if it were revealed in the next chapters that King had some "Sacred Tree" form for the start of 7ds story that puts him on the same level as the DK and SD, but he never used it because... well, there’s no reason, he just didn't.
I thought Meliodas unlocked or at least mastered his DK form only after purgatory.
 

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I thought Meliodas unlocked or at least mastered his DK form only after purgatory.
No, he possessed it the entire time.

It was even pointed out during the battle in Purgatory that the Demon King had long known Meliodas was suppressing his true magic (even before Meliodas himself use it) and told Meliodas then that he could never fight him unless he unleashed his true magic.

However, Meliodas (as he said during his conversation with the Demon King in Purgatory) had been afraid to use it, which is why he kept it dormant.

Ultimately, though, he was forced to awaken it in order to destroy the Demon King’s arm.
 

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The biggest issue with this forms is that they literally render everything Meliodas and Elizabeth went through completely meaningless.

So Elizabeth possesses a form on the same power level as the SD, and Meliodas has one that’s even stronger, yet neither of them ever thought to use these forms while fighting the DK and the SD, or even to break their curses?

There is no other explanation other than that they are both masochistic idiots.

That like if it were revealed in the next chapters that King had some "Sacred Tree" form for the start of 7ds story that puts him on the same level as the DK and SD, but he never used it because... well, there’s no reason, he just didn't.
At least Elizabeth has the excuse she has the body of a human and can't handle the power plus the curse kill her after she regin her memories...etc

What was even Mel's fear? That he would've to leave Britannia and Eli lifespan is that of a human if he broke the curse?
 

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The biggest issue with this forms is that they literally render everything Meliodas and Elizabeth went through completely meaningless.

So Elizabeth possesses a form on the same power level as the SD, and Meliodas has one that’s even stronger, yet neither of them ever thought to use these forms while fighting the DK and the SD, or even to break their curses?

There is no other explanation other than that they are both masochistic idiots.

That like if it were revealed in the next chapters that King had some "Sacred Tree" form for the start of 7ds story that puts him on the same level as the DK and SD, but he never used it because... well, there’s no reason, he just didn't.
Elizabeth's "Perfect Time" is more like a healing ability that gives her that form. It isn't a transformation in the literal sense where a character gains a stat boost and becomes stronger—it's just meant to heal others.

Meliodas's True Magic, however, is definitely an asspull. Still, you could argue that he never wanted to use it because he refused to live without Elizabeth or leave her alone.

Even before meeting her, when he was the leader of the Ten Commandments, you could argue he always had that power—he just didn't want to activate it because doing so would make him too strong to stay in the mortal realm without disturbing the balance.

You could use many excuses to jutify Meliodas not activate his True Magic.
 

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I thought Meliodas unlocked or at least mastered his DK form only after purgatory.
That would be a sensible development, but Nakaba chose the path of the asspull, telling he had always been able to used it, but he was afraid. Such a huge waste. The stage was set for a good development, and he ruined it for no reason!
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No, he possessed it the entire time.

It was even pointed out during the battle in Purgatory that the Demon King had long known Meliodas was suppressing his true magic (even before Meliodas himself use it) and told Meliodas then that he could never fight him unless he unleashed his true magic.

However, Meliodas (as he said during his conversation with the Demon King in Purgatory) had been afraid to use it, which is why he kept it dormant.

Ultimately, though, he was forced to awaken it in order to destroy the Demon King’s arm.
Compared to Ellie's, Meliodas transformation was way more problematic. Nakaba first needed to shit of the established lore, and give full counter to Chandler. What was like an innate magic of Mel and the reason why Dubs designed his ST, became a learned ability. Then the DK form showed up. It was a spit on the face of Mild because his sacrifice was unnecessary. Not to mention Nakaba brought him back later. Maybe he knew dying for no reason wasn't a good idea!

Then the fear asspull was introduced. I'm afraid of using it!! What was frightening Mel?

Mel: I have to leave this realm, I can't stay here anymore. Goodbye Ellie 😭

Ellie: WTF? I will come to DR with you! Fuck the miasma.

Just a bunch of retcons, asspulls, and flat drama. So weird! So bad! Such a waste! SIGH!
 
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Meliodas having a Demon King form isn't an asspull. The whole True Magic thing is. I don't see why anyone would be surprised to see Meliodas transforms when Demons are pretty much the only ones who do and Meliodas had different marks/transformations?
 

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Meliodas having a Demon King form isn't an asspull. The whole True Magic thing is. I don't see why anyone would be surprised to see Meliodas transforms when Demons are pretty much the only ones who do and Meliodas had different marks/transformations?
That form is part of the whole true magic form. Why do you isolate them? Do you think people have problem with the form? Ridiculous. We hate the true magic, and we call it asspull. What happened he activated it? He entered that form. Everything about it is nonsense, and the only thing it destroyed was the plot of NnT itself.
 
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