Shounen mx0 by Yasuhiro Kano

[Wrath]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Interesting stuff. So I'm pretty sure the big secret is... Black Plates let you use magic anywhere, not just in the special zones. We saw why it only makes sense to give it to an M0 user, so the fact that the best of the third-years are allowed to test for it means that there must be a situation in which it makes sense for people with normal Plates.

The reason that it's supposedly pointless for normal magic-users is that the only magic their Plate will come in contact with is their own, meaning that any spell they can copy would be one they can already use. So the only situation where it would really make sense to have a Black Plate... is if you're unable to use normal magic. That could be if all the points on your Plate are used up, but that wouldn't really be worthy of a big secret, so the only other possibility is... outside of a magic zone.

Which means Kuzumi is the perfect candidate, because outside of a magic zone everyone will be on the same level - with either no magic or a single spell. That means the best mage would be the one who relies on magic the least, and knows how to apply it the best. And that's Kuzumi, who has to constantly think about ways to use magic or counter it.

 

[Koen]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Sweet, I came here mostly to thank koenosaki for intriguing me with his sig and getting me interested in this manga, and here i find spoiler too! What luck.

I was hoping the spectre/old principal would be able to mess with him. I expect this be as amusing as it is enlightening.

Oh and, Thanks Koenosaki!

Nice to hear the banner works - I hope to see you around here

oh and you can always use the banner too if you want

 

[Raijatsu]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Okay this chapter was quite nice ^^
Taiga really has no magical power at all XD
well we don't know how big the others would be it is a test meant for third grades/graduates after all

 

[Koen]

(Black) M0 plate: Secret Seinagi Private High School?

Okay,

We all know about the M0 plate and the black M0 plate. We also know that there lies a secret within. Hiiragi mentioned of M0 plate being the source of all the others plate.

So what do you guys think?

Well we know two main things:
1. M0 plate seems to make some field were no magic effects can get in. It's an area that exlcudes/cancel all the magic surrounding the mountain
2. Black M0 plate is - if I am correct - the same as M0 plate but It can also absorb some magic but you can use it once and it'll be gone

-> so I have been thinking. We all know about plates an the levels: RI, Silver, Bronze, etc. But what's been bothering me is that M0 plates exist in different levels too. Now the words of Hiiragi are coming back into my mind: M0 plate is the source behind all plates. My guess is that all the magic that's surrounding the mountain was once captured in an ultimate M0 plate. But somehow/someone/due to some events all the magic in that ultimate M0 plate was released thus making the M0 plate at its lowest level as we've known

Isn't it also strange that principals and old principals got something to do with the M0 plate? It was the principal who gave kuzumi a M0 plate and now kuzumi is in a trial for the black M0 plate with the ghost of another principal. So maybe Kuzumi is the either the person who'll restore all the lost magic back in the M0 plate and maybe that's got to do with the function principal, or maybe it's the M0 plate that'll gather all the magic that can grant a wish but for that sake all the magic will be released, or some other things? Or maybe the principals plate -which type is unknown- got something to do with a level of M0?

What are you guys thinking?

 

[Franckie]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Interesting stuff. So I'm pretty sure the big secret is... Black Plates let you use magic anywhere, not just in the special zones. We saw why it only makes sense to give it to an M0 user, so the fact that the best of the third-years are allowed to test for it means that there must be a situation in which it makes sense for people with normal Plates.

The reason that it's supposedly pointless for normal magic-users is that the only magic their Plate will come in contact with is their own, meaning that any spell they can copy would be one they can already use. So the only situation where it would really make sense to have a Black Plate... is if you're unable to use normal magic. That could be if all the points on your Plate are used up, but that wouldn't really be worthy of a big secret, so the only other possibility is... outside of a magic zone.

Which means Kuzumi is the perfect candidate, because outside of a magic zone everyone will be on the same level - with either no magic or a single spell. That means the best mage would be the one who relies on magic the least, and knows how to apply it the best. And that's Kuzumi, who has to constantly think about ways to use magic or counter it.

This is a very interesting thought. It may help explain as to why the Black Plate is kept secret and why only the most outstanding students use them. Although Kuzumi isn't strong in the magical field, he is strong in how magic should be used.

 

[Keshire]

Re: M0 plate: Secret Seinagi Private High School?

But what's been bothering me is that M0 plates exist in different levels too

Actually I believe it was mentioned that the black magic manipulation was just layered on top of the M0 plate. And could be layered on other plates too.

http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/88/08/

Unfortunately we don't know 'how' the M0 is the basis of the other plates.

I think it's a stretch to say that the M0 once contained a ton of magic that got released though.

edit:

Or maybe the principals plate -which type is unknown- got something to do with a level of M0?

I think it's platinum (for spells)

From the wiki:
White Gold way : Those who emphasize on consistency
Rare Metal way : Those who emphasize on spells
Strengthened Alloy way : Those who dont use spells but have strong magic

http://www.onemanga.com/Mx0/88/03/

 

[Koen]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

a scan came out but ten levels that sounds difficult - but kuzumi will find out something

 

[Keshire]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

a scan came out but ten levels that sounds difficult - but kuzumi will find out something

I think it was stated that it's a layer of black per level. So I very much doubt he'll complete all 10 levels right away. He also still has the M0 plate with him (not that it would do any good versus a climbing match).

As for my prediction. Kazumi makes it half way up, Possessed Kazumi uses a bunch of gold plate level magic making it harder for Kazumi when he gets back.

 

[Koen]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

I think it was stated that it's a layer of black per level. So I very much doubt he'll complete all 10 levels right away. He also still has the M0 plate with him (not that it would do any good versus a climbing match).

As for my prediction. Kazumi makes it half way up, Possessed Kazumi uses a bunch of gold plate level magic making it harder for Kazumi when he gets back.

Thanks for clearing it out, sometimes it's hard to follow the plate theories etc

but isn't it kuzumi instead of kazumi?

 

[Wrath]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

I think it was stated that it's a layer of black per level. So I very much doubt he'll complete all 10 levels right away. He also still has the M0 plate with him (not that it would do any good versus a climbing match).

As for my prediction. Kazumi makes it half way up, Possessed Kazumi uses a bunch of gold plate level magic making it harder for Kazumi when he gets back.

Heh. At this point, I wonder if Kuzumi could even come clean about not having a Gold Plate, since there have been so many times that he's been "seen" using high level magic.

 

[Wrath]

Re: M0 plate: Secret Seinagi Private High School?

Well, the reason that M0 is the basis of magic isn't some great mystery. It's quite simple, really. It creates a foundation on which spells can be built. If a magic zone is completely filled with magic, then in order to cast a spell, you need to clear out an area/object of its old magic so that you can create the effect you want.

As I said in the discussion/prediction thread, though, I'm pretty sure the secret is that Black Plates can use magic outside of the school. The school exists to find exceptional people who can master magic and qualify for using it outside of magic zones, for some mysterious purpose.

The principal told Kuzumi that Black Plates would be useless for normal mages because they'd only be able to store their own spells, which naturally they can already cast. But since normal mages can qualify for Black Plates, logically there must be a situation in which it would be useful - and that can only be when they are otherwise unable to use magic. In other words, outside magic zones.

Now, what the mysterious purpose behind this is, that I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some sort of tournament between different schools or something though, since this is a Shounen manga after all.

 

[Wrath]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

There are other students with Black Plates, so it's okay for people to work that out.

Presumably the way the Black Plate works, though, is that it absorbs the general type of spell it comes in contact with, but it can then be applied however Kuzumi would want it to.

So, to create a scenario, let's say that Ise used his Quick Magnet magic on Kuzumi to make him stick to the ground, and Kuzumi then used M0 to cancel it. The Black Plate would absorb the Quick Magnet spell, but Kuzumi wouldn't be forced to only use it in the same way, but could magnetise something of his own choosing, like he came up with scenarios for during the last exam.

 

[michiyohayashi]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Oh my GAWD! There's a discussion thread!

(>.<) I'm so blind...
I feel sorry for Taiga, cos it's test after test after test for him... I wanted him to get a real Gold Plate... but now I really want him to get the Black Plate.
Lucy should be able to help him somehow. I have a feeling that she'll make some great sacrifice and return to being a normal root... and Taiga'll have that magic ring.
And I wish Aika'll get a proper brain one day. She surprises me at times though.

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Ok... I just read the previous posts...
Am I really that slow with the translation part that you people can't wait?
Or is there something wrong with my translation?

 

[chison]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Spoiler: M:90 kuzumi looks like he's going to die

grandy have some fun showing off he P+ magic at the beginning of the chapter

and kuzumi scary bloodlosting at the ends of the chapter......

 

[B-One_2]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Weird that people are asking for a trans and all when there is FH and Mahou-x. They are up to date and michiyohayashi translates the chapters each week... how could they be faster =/.

 

[OhDearMoshe]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

Weird that people are asking for a trans and all when there is FH and Mahou-x. They are up to date and michiyohayashi translates the chapters each week... how could they be faster =/.

FH are not allowed here. We were asking so we could release a scan more localized to MH. Sides Editing is kinda fun too

Anyways. Great chapter will be interesting to see where this all goes!

 

[Majek]

Re: Mx0 chap 89 discussion/chap 90 prediction

LOL more high level magic, poor guy things get more difficult every new chapter XD

 

[kaylee]

Mx0 90 Discussion Thread / 91 Predictions Thread

Grab the Raw HERE, then come back to discuss!

 

[Raijatsu]

Re: Mx0 90 Discussion Thread / 91 Predictions Thread

RTS thread yay!

This chapter is really funny ^^

The old principal will make Taiga seem even stronger (and make him more famous) when he keeps using that magic in public.

I wonder why he got all these wounds in the end? This could either be a reaction to Kuzumi's wounds during the test or Daimon's shots a moment before. I'd prefer the second possiblity

 

[chison]

Re: Mx0 90 Discussion Thread / 91 Predictions Thread

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becasue kuzumi don't felt any pain during the test
thinking of this is just his magical body that are not going to hurt him a little,althought kuzumi have feel that his magical body getting tired and tired,

but at the end kuzumi fell and fell ,and try again...luzy did try to advise hime to take it easiler


grandy:[is this!?can it be the damage of kuzumi have recieve!?
the magical body of kuzumi feedbacks the damage to the orginal body...]