Shounen mx0 by Yasuhiro Kano

[Quetz]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

I doubt he'd be granted access to a level 10 black M0 without actually completing all of the tests. It was stated that he's already pretty much out of his league in that he's taking a test that is normally only available to exceptional third year students.

 

[Quetz]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

Kuzumi needs help on this one. Usually he can rely on his wits and physical prowess to carry him through his obstacles, but in 'that' form his physical strength means nothing, and going against a wall gives him essentially nothing to work with.

There has to be a way around the wall. Hell, maybe theres a stairway on the back side of the wall, and the test was just to see if he was observant enough to notice it. That'd be kind of anticlimactic, though....

 

[Quetz]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

Absolutely. I'd like to see him turn into the ultimate magic user, own some faces and call it a day. But not before a lengthy journey to that point. Half the fun of this manga has been the wondering in how he'll survive much longer in this increasingly magic driven environment without anything but the M0 plate to help him. I'd like it to stick to that formula for just a little while longer, before having kuzumi move on to bigger and better things.

Hopefully, though, he'll trail behind his classmates for the remainder of his school years.....just to keep this interesting.

 

[shouryuujo]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

I doubt he'd be granted access to a level 10 black M0 without actually completing all of the tests. It was stated that he's already pretty much out of his league in that he's taking a test that is normally only available to exceptional third year students.

Yeah but the principle also said it is dependent on her father. Her father seems to be laidback guy so I think Kuzumi might impress him enough to do it. If he does attempt all 10 levels then it will probably last till end of this year assuming each level = 3-4 chapters. But I guess Kuzumi probably will get couple of levels and then another storyline comes up. But I still don't see how "impressed" others will be seeing kuzumi's magic since it will be a weaker version of whatever it copied. But then again maybe they would assume Kuzumi can "erase" incoming magic and then "reflect" it back? it would be interesting.

 

[Quetz]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

Agreed, it's all dependent upon the former principle.

As far as the reflecting magic thing goes, it's also stated that he can 'store' a spell for future use. To me that means he could potentially borrow magic from either daddy hiragi, the principle (who I'd love to see do some kind of amazing magic), or the former principle....if he plays his cards right (no pun intended), he could even get them to hook him up with a spell of his choice rather than just a random one that they happen to cast near him.

The black plate obviously opens up a lot of possibilities for kuzumi. It's a pretty spiffy plot device and I'm anxious to see where the author goes with it.

 

[Who-me]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

Agreed, it's all dependent upon the former principle.
The black plate obviously opens up a lot of possibilities for kuzumi. It's a pretty spiffy plot device and I'm anxious to see where the author goes with it.

I agree. As it was going, he would have a very hard time keeping his facade up in the coming year. Especially when he went into the VP's territory. With this, he may finally completely deserve the praise he receives.

As for the spell being weaker than the original, that may be true but it doesn't mean he can't win. A small well placed attack can be more deadly than a big one. When he took down that big guy in the class match with a rock proved it. So he might actually have the advantage.

 

[Quetz]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

I'm hoping that the black plate will end up being capable of storing more than one spell, and that it will eventually allow him to amplify the magic stored therein. If Kuzumi had a sort of ace in the hole given to him by daddy hiraigi/principle/ex-principle, which he could then amplify with the black M0 plate, then he would in fact become the unstoppable monster that he's believed to be.

 

[Aphalite]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

Is Kuzumi allowed to use MO during the test?? He could've used it to shrink the amount of wall he had to climb. But I agree that Kuzumi is trying to get up the school wall, but what does he mean by 'one breath'??

By one breath he means not falling down once, as the former principal will just stop the exam if his main body gets too hurt because of his extremely high spirit link to his magical body

I also don't think shaping M0 will work, although he can shape it, his body is of a magical composition and thus will not react well with the M0

 

[Koen]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

Absolutely. I'd like to see him turn into the ultimate magic user, own some faces and call it a day. But not before a lengthy journey to that point. Half the fun of this manga has been the wondering in how he'll survive much longer in this increasingly magic driven environment without anything but the M0 plate to help him. I'd like it to stick to that formula for just a little while longer, before having kuzumi move on to bigger and better things.

Hopefully, though, he'll trail behind his classmates for the remainder of his school years.....just to keep this interesting.

Maybe but kuzumi will need to attain something more. Have you seen daimon against that prinicpal? The guy had a bronze plate and if in some classes test, some other school years events or other events involving strong magic are coming up, kuzumi will need an extra for/against school years students that'll confront him

Don't forget kuzumi has a lot of responsability since he's in the executive committee. So the main concept remain: nobody may know kuzumi isn't the magical skilled student as everyone think he is but for that he needs other resources

 

[Wrath]

Re: Taiga Kuzumi's Fate

The Black Plate stores a smaller amount of magic than the original spell had... but Kuzumi can do more with less. I don't just mean applying it better, but 91 talked about how the power of a spell will change depending on how strong your will and ability to turn magic into reality are. Since Kuzumi has been said in the last few chapters to be very good at this, it's reasonable to think that when he gets the Black Plate he'll be able to match others even with smaller amounts of magic.

 

[shouryuujo]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

Kuzumi showed versions of M0 in which he was not contacted with it so i think he will be ok. And I think he might use M0 to "dig" through the giant like putting M0 on his fingertips so that it nullifies the part of the wall thus creating a way to climb. And since M0 is based off of points (and he can't use magic) it shouldn't shrink his magical body right?

 

[Quetz]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

I'd say that that was a special case, since Daimon got the 'jump' on the principle, who was using magic only to stop the first guy's attack, not to defend against Daimon's magic.

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we all agree that kuzumi needs another tool to get the job done in the coming years. The only real question is what shape that tool will take....

More importantly, though, I'm kind of confused as to how this M0 path he's on is going to lead to a gold plate at the end. Was it stated somewhere that you could directly upgrade your M0 plate to a gold plate?

 

[Quetz]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

But you have to consider that the M0 will cause kuzumi to shrink for every foothold he creates.....that would mean he'd undergo thousands of shrinks, probably even more, if he did that. All that assuming that M0 actually works on the statue, or that there isn't more to this test than just climbing the wall.

 

[shouryuujo]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

But you have to consider that the M0 will cause kuzumi to shrink for every foothold he creates.....that would mean he'd undergo thousands of shrinks, probably even more, if he did that. All that assuming that M0 actually works on the statue, or that there isn't more to this test than just climbing the wall.

but M0 uses points he accrued instead of magic so unlike others he shouldn't shrink since M0 is not "magic". I don't see this test as not in testing magical abilities - after all what is the point of inviting top magic users to the test if all it is is some endurance/intelligence test that doesn't involve using magic? I do think the "teeth" might be another trap - maybe it swallows the person in and "ejects" him/her to the ground? Or perhaps the teeth/mouth is the entrance to the 10 levels which is inside the statue? Anyway, I think we will probably see him challenging the test again by the end of next chapter and have to wait another week to see how he accomplishes it...

 

[shouryuujo]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

More importantly, though, I'm kind of confused as to how this M0 path he's on is going to lead to a gold plate at the end. Was it stated somewhere that you could directly upgrade your M0 plate to a gold plate?

I am not sure about that either. I know at one point they were going to give him a real card but it will be the lowest level and he refused because that would blow his cover and get him and hiragi expelled. They did try to go back in time so he could start with a magic card but we all know how that went. Maybe M0 can become a card even greater than Gold card in the end?

 

[Quetz]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

I'm of the opinion that the M0 plate will end up being the ultimate magical weapon in that it can be used outside of the magical zones. Just like how it causes magic to cease to exist in the magical zones, I'm betting it will create a small magical territory around the card user, in which he can cast spells. The ex-principle specifically said that he didn't think kuzumi was 'ready to take the black plate out of the school'.

Of course, this is all just conjecture on my part.

 

[shouryuujo]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

I'm of the opinion that the M0 plate will end up being the ultimate magical weapon in that it can be used outside of the magical zones. Just like how it causes magic to cease to exist in the magical zones, I'm betting it will create a small magical territory around the card user, in which he can cast spells. The ex-principle specifically said that he didn't think kuzumi was 'ready to take the black plate out of the school'.

Of course, this is all just conjecture on my part.

Maybe the "one wish" is a spell the user can take out via black card?

 

[Quetz]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

Maybe the "one wish" is a spell the user can take out via black card?

Possible. IMO the one wish thing is a load of crap, it's simply another test. If the person says that they wish to not forget about magic, then they pass. Of course that would mean that the whole 'granting her wish' portion of the story would have to extend into kuzumi actually physically finding the person.

 

[Koen]

Re: Mx0 91 Discussion Thread / 92 Predictions Thread

but M0 uses points he accrued instead of magic so unlike others he shouldn't shrink since M0 is not "magic". I don't see this test as not in testing magical abilities - after all what is the point of inviting top magic users to the test if all it is is some endurance/intelligence test that doesn't involve using magic? I do think the "teeth" might be another trap - maybe it swallows the person in and "ejects" him/her to the ground? Or perhaps the teeth/mouth is the entrance to the 10 levels which is inside the statue? Anyway, I think we will probably see him challenging the test again by the end of next chapter and have to wait another week to see how he accomplishes it...

I don't know but it would be strange if Kuzumi jumped into the wrong conclusions after knowing a lot about M0. Though you could be right: maybe we're overseeing, and kuzumi too, something

Magical wall: it really won't be easy if you ask me. The former principal said himself: he expects stronger people to take the trial (though another strange thing on that item: black M0, and M0, seem to be a big secret in seinagi - so I wonder how a mere student would come over there for a very important secret that would mean "nothing")

 

[Koen]

Re: Do You Want Him to Learn Magic?

Maybe the "one wish" is a spell the user can take out via black card?

I have always thought that

off topic: we have a black M0 plate and seinagi secret discussion thread - better to discuss over there but I stated over there that black M0 is the source of all other plates and I wouldn't be suprised if black M0 plate contained all magic in early days