Ah okay!
Why cant i shake the feeling you and possibly niichan are behind demons death....Well... Yeah, that's a pretty heavy blow. We still got a Mafia Det as a first lynch, though, which is probably the best first day result ever. It's way too early to give up
With that new information from "Chapter 2", it seems a bit more plausible that there could be a single mafia, since it appears to suggest that if a mafia member is holding the Note, they can't use the regular nightkill but need to use the Note instead:
And that's a lot better for us, especially with that part about a "bad guest" being in possession of it. I still think it's more likely that there are two mafias and a few third parties than one mafia and a lot of Serial Killers/Mentors/Santas...
The first part is possible, but there's a reasonable number of ways to die during the night even without being targeted by the mafia or third parties. There are also a lot of ways a mafia kill can fail, so we can't rule anything out yet.
The last part is impossible. The holder could have failed the kill, but the rules of the Note say that you get a penalty if you don't use the Note or don't designate its next owner, and the only penalties we can see are those for yesterday's inactivity.
How could they "aim" for a specific role on night one? I think this more of a way to get rid of active and pretty good players so it's easier to hide between rather inactive ones and also take control of the direction the townies speculate on.
You have a point there. But what about Orgz?
Or just troll
but do not worry, this very Ushiromiya Battler shall avenge you by finding the culprits behind these murders 
Do you honestly think I would try to protect Spriggan like one hour before the end of the day phase when he was most likely going to end up dead anyway?
If I wanted people to go for EmptySoul instead I sure would've tried to frame him as mafia way more strongly, instead I simply said I didn't want to be the last one to vote for him bc he could be a bomb (and IIRC there are other potentially dangerous roles if you were the last voter in a lynch, but tbh it's been quite a while so my memory is foggy), and it was very likely I would turn out to be the last one voting for him. Dunno why you're jumping on me that much for basically one single post stating that your arguments don't have to be the truth, especially considering I hadn't voted yet and could've simply jumped on the bandwagon bc let's be honest, it was more or less a given that Emperor would end up dead by that point. I guess that's what I get for trying to be helpful 
Not now basically.If you look at previous DP too she barely drew attention to herself.So we should keep those things in mind too.
True. Like I said yesterday, she has this innocent image. This is how she acts in general, not very attention drawing and sweet. That could work in her favour a lot in this game.
This is sadly true. You guys tend to talk from the middle of night (12 am) to very early in the morning, estimated times would be 4-6 am. Unless it's my school days (and I don't have school atm), I can't possibly be active.
Hmm I think if the mafia actually has the Note, that means they can only do one kill anyway, so wouldn't that actually make it more plausible that there's a second mafia group? Considering that the Note apparently isn't really giving them an advantage, if we take all the coloured lines as truth. So if we assume that the mafia has the Note, and two kills happened, then there is a possibility that the second kill was done by the second mafia group. Though ofc it could also be an insane doc or mb another townie who has a second note...Well... Yeah, that's a pretty heavy blow. We still got a Mafia Det as a first lynch, though, which is probably the best first day result ever. It's way too early to give up
With that new information from "Chapter 2", it seems a bit more plausible that there could be a single mafia, since it appears to suggest that if a mafia member is holding the Note, they can't use the regular nightkill but need to use the Note instead:
And that's a lot better for us, especially with that part about a "bad guest" being in possession of it. I still think it's more likely that there are two mafias and a few third parties than one mafia and a lot of Serial Killers/Mentors/Santas...
The first part is possible, but there's a reasonable number of ways to die during the night even without being targeted by the mafia or third parties. There are also a lot of ways a mafia kill can fail, so we can't rule anything out yet.
The last part is impossible. The holder could have failed the kill, but the rules of the Note say that you get a penalty if you don't use the Note or don't designate its next owner, and the only penalties we can see are those for yesterday's inactivity.
Are you saying I'd have troll-killed Demon?
My point is that if the Note allowed a mafia group to perform two kills every night while passing it around among their members for at least a few nights, it would be insane to also have a second mafia for a total of three potential kills every night (and possibly multiple Notes, too) - but at the same time, having a Note that allows a single mafia group to kill twice would mean that they're either very few in number, or that they can prey on the townies twice as fast as usual, so that wouldn't be very balanced either.
So you say you don't know why I'm jumping on you that much, while at the same time ignoring the main reason I wrote why I suspect you. You knew Spriggan was mafia, you never even once questioned that he would reveal as mafia when lynched. Instead you immediatelly went to argue about my post of "If Spriggan shows mafia then problably...", instead of arguing about whether Spriggan is mafia or not. If you thought he was, you would've voted him, If you thought he wasn't, you wouldn't have attacked that part of my post. And pretending he could be a bomb out of nowhere when basically nothing was pointing towards that is even more of a ridiculous reason not to vote him if you think he's a mafia.Do you honestly think I would try to protect Spriggan like one hour before the end of the day phase when he was most likely going to end up dead anyway?
So there isn't much to debate over, my post was in preparation for the second day, trying to save someone that close to the end of the dayphase is a futile attempt anyway that's only going to hurt you if that someone turns out to be mafia. I wouldn't put myself in the spotlight in such a dumb way if I actually were mafia
