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The full chapter is out, here's the link.

TL:
NOTE: Do not use this translation for typesetting and retranslations.
Page 2:
Can I put them here?
Thank you, sir Percival.

Ohhhhh!!

Whoa, that's amazing magic.
I don't mind pudding as thanks.

Page 3:
Is Lancelot realy intent on destroying the world?
Wonder if we can talk things out with him.

Another thing, he doesn't seem brainwashed or possessed...
Although he's doing it to protect his woman, he made a deal with Chaos... with the malicious cat monster.
There's no single doubt he's our enemy right now!!

...still, there must be a way to save him.

Page 4:
Tristan!

A... are you feeling fine? You were so down nobody even wanted to talk to you yesterday.
Y-yes but I wasn't the only one who had it rough.

Hoooh...

So did something good beyond words happen between you and lady Isolde?
Outside: Kukukuh.♡
S-stop making strange suspicions, it's embarrassing!!
Oh, so I was right.

Page 5:
But... it'd be nice to find it.
A way to get Lancelot to regain his senses.

In
tru
th,

I've just thought of a great plan!!
Great... plan?
Just follow me for the time being!!

Page 6:
Oh, good morning, father...
Hmm... so what did you want to ask us about...?

Page 7:
Did you guys stay over in the castle?
Since we don't know how to go back home, I guess we'll have to impose ourselves here for a while.♬

Did you talk to them about you being our children?
How do you think of these clothes?
They suit you well.
No... it'd invite a lot of trouble so...

Wise judgment.
Under no normal circumstances would anyone believe such a preposterous thing as coming from the future.
If you believe it, you believe it but lady Anne would faint if her unborn kid older than her were to appear right before her, wouldn't she?

So, Tristan,
what's the great plan you talked about?

Can't you tell it? The answer is right in front of your eyes!!

Page 8:
Ask them and today's problems will be resolved!! The reason being
coming from the future themselves, they should know particulars about this present situation.

Th-th-th-th-that's a really great idea!!!

Page 9:
I was a fool for not realizing that! You're a genius, Tristan!!
Outside: Huhuh.
Ehhhh? No, not really.

I mean! You're amazing!! I respect you!
You flatter me too much.

Anyway, you'll tell me it, right!?
How to stop Chaos Lancelot!!!

We have no idea how... (small print) Sorry.
Since it all happened before we were born...

Page 10:
Oh my!!!

You aren't a genius after all, Tristan.
Uhhh...
Our dads are so cute...

By our dads' accounts, the situation returned to normal right before we were born...
Sorry... we couldn't be of help...

...well, at the very least, our kids being here
is proof that Britannia will be safe.

I want to know how to save Lancelot.
I'm sorry, Father...
Ugh...

Page 11:
Oh... you don't know it
but is there anyone who might?

Someone like a Holy Knight at this point in time.
For example our future selves.

Percival!! You're the genius!!
Eh heh heh heh.

About that... we've kept our mouth shut regatding a certain matter.
It's something like taboo...
This might be out of concern for dad but it seemed to be quite a great event, so...

Page 12:
The only thing we know of is
how greatly changed the world was before and after the incident.

Page 13:
...how greatly changed
the world was... before and after the incident?

We never thought we'd see the real Gowther, Diane and Harlequin...
Not to mention we were surprised to know Meliodas and Ban really existed too...

...huh.

In out future time, the Seven Deadly Sins
are no longer legends and existing heroes...!!

Page 14:
Diane and Harlequin especially susprised us!
'Cause they are real Giant and Fairy.

My mom is a half Giant half Fairy...
I felt it over again.

Uhm... you're making ot sound like you've never seen a Giant or Fairy...
Yes... they don't exist in my timeline after all.

Then... how about Demons and Goddesses!?
Of course I've never seen them besides you the nephilim*.
Note: *Person of mixed Demon-Goddess lineage

Page 15:
...Father?
Hmm... I feel a bit awkward...

It's actually rather frightening what will happen from now...
...can we really hope to fight against this situation...

Page 16:
This is a message from Lancelot!!!
he said if you felt hesitant to do it, I coud persuade you even if it meant throwing you punches!!!

If we don't face it, we'll lose everything before even saving him!!!
We should focus on what we can do right now!!!

Page 17:
My mama is really cool, isn't she?
Yep, yep.

What we can do right now... huh.

Gawain,
do you have the Holy Grail lady Merlin gave you?

Heh...

King Arthur's blood that controls Chaos, heh.

Page 18:
Let's have Dubs make
the three weapons that strike Chaos.

No,
make it four.

Page 19:
One for Lancelot too...!!
He's still our fellow Knight of the Apocalypse.

Lancelot will definitey be back to his senses to protect the world too.

Page 20:
Let's go!!

Bottom: To be conntinued in chapter 253 - Towards hope!!
 
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Ah so Britannia future become the age of humans, the 7 deadly sins were all death until the 4 knight can't speak of it. I guess the future kids might meet their grandparents too
 

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they all gonna die
 

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Seems like Lancelot(or what will happen right after him) will divide the worlds. All the sins could die, or just a part of them, and the others might go in other realms, forever. The strange thing is, how much gatekeeping the people in the future did to hide it all?
 

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My opinion about that:

It seems that the Lancelot of Chaos is something that happened in their future, and it's considered taboo, and neither of their parents told them the truth. Because the truth is that it was Lancelot himself who caused this division. Just as King predicted, he destroyed all the worlds of the clans, but he didn't reach Britain, otherwise the civilians would recognize him and there would be no mystery. He was saved by the four knights, and then they kill the Cath. Arthur recovers the power of Chaos and creates a new world for the non-humans who decide to distance themselves from humans because of all this. That's why it's something that's taboo, protect lancelot
 

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The strange thing is, how much gatekeeping the people in the future did to hide it all?
It seem at a level of Historical Erasure, where mentioning or discussing the topic is strictly forbidden.

For exemple, even Kardeiz and Lohengrin, who will be born in less than 9 months, don't know or hear anything.
 

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It seem at a level of Historical Erasure, where mentioning or discussing the topic is strictly forbidden.

For exemple, even Kardeiz and Lohengrin, who will be born in less than 9 months, don't know or hear anything.
At this point, not only the worlds will be separated, but slowly all the stories about non-humans will be lost in time, and that little that remains will become a fairy tale, like the seven deadly sins. I suppose Nakaba will end the manga revealing this is the same world as ours, and he just revealed a truth lost in time. If so, even magic will disappear.
 

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With Kardeiz words, we could assume that Chaos Lancelot situation will be dealt with before the one year timeskip since he said everything was settled before they were born
 

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everything will be done before the timeskip
 

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At this point, not only the worlds will be separated, but slowly all the stories about non-humans will be lost in time, and that little that remains will become a fairy tale, like the seven deadly sins. I suppose Nakaba will end the manga revealing this is the same world as ours, and he just revealed a truth lost in time. If so, even magic will disappear.
That's quite possible, the end of magic.
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With Kardeiz words, we could assume that Chaos Lancelot situation will be dealt with before the one year timeskip since he said everything was settled before they were born
YEAHH!

And probably cath palug too.

I'm really looking forward to parts 3 and 4, probably about Arthur's kingdom.
 

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Lohengrin developing an electra complex right before our eyes :XD.

Good chapter.

The future will have to change somehow but the separation of the worlds is something unavoidable, isn't it?
 

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Lohengrin developing an electra complex right before our eyes :XD.

Good chapter.

The future will have to change somehow but the separation of the worlds is something unavoidable, isn't it?
A non-human world will be created, but I believe that now they will only delay it, altering the present.
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It appears to be a linear timeline, change the past will change the future.


Based on the KOTA's response, "since our children are here, then everything is safe."

I believe that opinion on this is exactly the same as Lancelot's when he saw Galahad.

"If I had a child with Guinevere and my friends did too, it means everything will be alright in the end
 

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A non-human world will be created, but I believe that now they will only delay it, altering the present.
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It appears to be a linear timeline, change the past will change the future.


Based on the KOTA's response, "since our children are here, then everything is safe."

I believe that opinion on this is exactly the same as Lancelot's when he saw Galahad.

"If I had a child with Guinevere and my friends did too, it means everything will be alright in the end
Nah, Lancelot wasn't thinking that far ahead he was just being emotional. The current state is already different because their kids have been brought to the past.
 

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Nah, Lancelot wasn't thinking that far ahead he was just being emotional. The current state is already different because their kids have been brought to the past.
Yes, now they will alter their destiny by being here, their future will change... probably for the worse, everything destroyed.
 

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Lohengrin developing an electra complex right before our eyes :XD.

Good chapter.

The future will have to change somehow but the separation of the worlds is something unavoidable, isn't it?
Yeah, looks like it is unavoidable. But it ties in nicely with an idea I had, if Nakaba wants he can unify all of his works into one cosmos now and he wouldn't run any risk of contradictions due to the parallel timelines. He could even explain away the Kongou existing since prehistoric times long before homo sapiens because they'd just be another strain of the giant clan since chaos gave the world to them first while the other races (fairy goddess, demon) all had their own separate dimensions. I quite like it.
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Where is Montain? He should already be theorizing about Lancelot getting his ST
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Right, I forgot about the STs. Are we finally going to get explanations for Hazy Mon and Nova... Are Percival and Gawain going to get new weapons, not just upgrades? I don't think the sword meshes well with Gawain's fighting style, it's a good occassion for Nakaba to change it but theoretically Force Circular could simply be enchanted with the blood, right? 🤔

Yeah, looks like it is unavoidable. But it ties in nicely with an idea I had, if Nakaba wants he can unify all of his works into one cosmos now and he wouldn't run any risk of contradictions due to the parallel timelines. He could even explain away the Kongou existing since prehistoric times long before homo sapiens because they'd just be another strain of the giant clan since chaos gave the world to them first while the other races (fairy goddess, demon) all had their own separate dimensions. I quite like it.
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Arthur is going to do something with all of Chaos I guess but without thinking about all the details, my idea was that in the end, all races would turn into Humans. It would be a ''safe'' ending, keeping the Sins alive etc.
 

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With this we've now covered Lancelot, Ban and the KotA's side of things. We'll probably get a scene with Dubs and then the meeting between the Sins as well before the plot starts to move again. I'm curious what's going to happen with the STs. Percival already has his so he just needs it to be imbued with Arthur's blood and he'll be set. Gawain has had her ST for even longer than Percival, but like I've said before I expect it to be replaced eventually. Rhitta is just Escanor's hand-me-downs and its ability isn't even very useful for Gawain since Dawn is not dependent on the time of day. It doesn't really feel like a good match for her even before we take into account how useless it is to her mage side. However, a brand new ST should come about as a result of Gawain outgrowing and perhaps even breaking her current one, not just because Dubs suddenly felt like crafting another weapon for her. I likewise feel that it's too early for Tristan to get an ST considering that they are meant to be the ultimate weapons that allow their wielders to tap into their full strength. Someone like Tristan whose powers are still a total mess that he can't even control properly isn't ready to acquire his endgame equipment yet. It would be like if Percival had obtained his ST before he discovered that he's a life spirit. The weapon would have been totally wasted on him.

Moving on, the shift in the world that the Grail Knights mentioned isn't terribly surprising given their reaction to King and Diane earlier, but I like how it's seemingly foreshadowing a cataclysm of some sort. I doubt this disaster is actually going to take place though. All the non-human clans are a major part of the setting so I don't think Nakaba wants to just randomly remove them from the story, at least not before the endgame. The fact that we still haven't seen the Goddess Realm despite both the Demon Realm and the Fairy Realm making an appearance also points to this development being saved for later. The giant clan will likely have to be explored a bit further as well since they don't have a realm of their own and will presumably have to shack up with the fairies after leaving Britannia. More importantly, if the events of the story simply followed a predetermined path then it wouldn't be very interesting since we know the timeline the GKs come from is mostly fine. If they had come from an end of the world dystopia(think the Terminator movies for example) then the situation would be different since everyone would want to avert that outcome, but as it stands things seem to be heading in the right direction and that's boring so we'll need to deviate from that. Bring on the chaos, pun intended.

Right, I forgot about the STs. Are we finally going to get explanations for Hazy Mon and Nova... Are Percival and Gawain going to get new weapons, not just upgrades? I don't think the sword meshes well with Gawain's fighting style, it's a good occassion for Nakaba to change it but theoretically Force Circular could simply be enchanted with the blood, right? 🤔
Percival getting an entirely new ST would be quite strange but I could see his current one receiving a minor upgrade. It should also be given a cooler name, ideally something related to Percy's ouroboros motif.
 
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