but they werent duo, kyoka was leader, and only one near her was silver. and then absorbed Seilah as well, then erza bs win lol
They were still a duo since they were lovers, always together, fought parallel fights to the most reliable duo Mira and Erza and both had the best hax. Seilah 2 shot Sitri, Kyoka 1 shot Armadura leading 2 both Erza and Mira surpassing their limits. Seilah also was going to kill Erza before Mira stepped in then Erza was the only one left who could beat Kyoka. Mira was the only person who could stop Seilah. While fighting Kyoka Erza was able to let in FT reinforcements and in her fight with Seilah Mira destroyed their only way of regenerating. Those 2 fights were very much mirrored fights and even then Erza had an illogical win while Mira's made more sense.
two things happened in this arc.
1) the test, which showed every single s class can handle what laxus handled in in ff arc. markarov clearly told s class mages to hold back. and obviously he couldnt have predicted that natsu and gajeel wont team up and end up facing Mira.
My conclusion: Mishma believes that Mira could perform similiar to laxus (ff arc)
2) Azuma: Mira faced a different Azuma than erza. Azuma ranks solid laxus tier. he low diffed pantherlily, who in the very previous arc, stalemated gajeel. But Mira said she was low on power. Might have something to do with the her break, but still that is red flag there
erza fought much stronger Azuma, because of two factors (i) erza fought him in giant tree (Azuma magic was Lost Tree magic), vs Mira, he stood near the forest. (ii) Azuma had access to fairy tail powers. no matter how you think the fight went, Azuma at the end had to rely on Tera Clemare (fairy power held by azuma, this is equivalent to what Erza did with Motherglare now), without it, he seems to have no way of putting erza down. Azuma first Tera Clemare knocked erza straight out, then erza bs, then next Tera Clemare made erza give up her family and accept death, then erza bs
in simpler words
Azuma beat Mira
Advantaged Azuma lost to bs Erza
so, i would hard press to believe Mira feats with this. I blame Mishma for Mira lack of panels
Again Erza had help from Jellal and FT's magic. Azuma basically won before Jellal mentally called out to her and was still winning before the guild themselves helped Erza. Mira included. Azuma was not powered by the magic itself. He simply used it for Tera Clemare.
Mirajane said her magic is not one to be used constantly. It's not a stamina issue. By nature that's how it is based on what she said. It was thus evident in Mira doing some of the damage she was doing. She damaged his shield when he actively defended and hurt him. Yet we know Mira was able to match Erza's Armadura with Sitri so Erza's stamina never helped her. Mira still came to the conclusion that had she put all her power into attacking she could win. Identical to Erza's assumption before she was down to Tera Clemare and Jellal woke her up basically. So Erza's help and POF are being compared to Mira's performance when she's rushing and distracted. Not mentioning low on power because she was still thinking the same thing Erza was. As I said when you compare them without special circumstances favoring Erza, it's a parallel.
We even see her deciding to save Lisanna instead of trying to beat Azuma with all her power. So she would've likely ended up like Erza before Jellal's POF moment unless Mashima wrote lisanna calling out to her or something.
And Mira's magic is vindicated because we saw how Alegria passively boiled away a part of the ocean and traumatized Heine and Julliet but is now having Mira arguably outperform Erza' newest modes.
Erza could, that is why Marin was essential for Ajeel. Erza vs Ajeel fight is more close to Laxus vs Wahl with 90% of erza arsenal useless
Irene was far stronger, even then erza over powered dragon irene strongest on screen move, and blasted ROT aconlogia across the sky. This erza has better feats than even gildarts
Meanwhile Mira was left with those swords and blind and transport less jacob (atleast Mira also didnt transform for this jacob, so one can claim Mira might be above normal springgan)
I agree that this was not good for Mira however there is no evidence that Erza could. When Marin's power was not active it took Jupiter and Nakagami starlight to finish Ajeel. It doesn't matter if Irene was far stronger. So my point is neither Erza nor Mira proved they could match and beat a spriggan. Erza and Laxus didn't even get hype to class them similar in that arc since Laxus was looking spriggan level of higher while Erza was below eg Brandish. This and the GMG were the only times Mashima actually put Laxus/Jellal clearly ahead unlike now when they're equals or back in the battle of FT when Erza looked capable of beating him even if she didn't outright match him like Mystogan. Erza pushed Acnologia down. It was in the same arc Laxus and Jellal were shown spriggan level or above unlike Erza, Juvia rocked Acnologia's boat with his weight on it and Jellal defended against his attack. Again Mira was the one helping Erza lure him away and distract him again being portrayed as a duo.
here i would agree with you 100% but unfortunately, i have been following fairy tail for a long time. erza is used as hype tool most of the time and then she gets redeemed by the end of the arc (More panels because erza is main character). Example Erza vs kyria then Erza vs Laxus, or Erza vs Suzaku then Erza vs Misaki or Erza vs Marin then Erza vs Irene. it is standard for erza at this point
Erza moves from lucy tier in the start to Laxus or laxus plus tier at the end.
Mirajane doesnt get this, because she barely gets any panels at all
this is so predictable that we could easily predict erza will redeam herself after ajeel, while rest of the fans here were talking about erza reaching her ceiling (mirrors gmg arc reaction as well). you can check old power level threads for evidence
It doesn't matter. Erza had a 2nd fight with Kyria and couldn't end her with Benizakura which was her original offensive ace. Mira's fight fight with the stronger Skullion, days later had her drawing in BSS. Erza even continued hyping Kyria when she fought Laxus in the next arc being shocked Laxus beat her. Just like Motherglare and Scissor Runner/Levia it's a comparable feat.
Mira is now ragdolling Scissor runner. Mira failing to get a fight isn't the same as Mira loses to the opponents. Mira didn't fight Laxus or Misaki however when Mira fought Skullion she arguably did better than Erza in BSS vs Erza with benizakura. When she fights a calamity blood like Erza and Laxus she ends up tanking their moves like Laxus, saving Laxus, hurting 2 dragons at once etc with only alegria i.e. no new form.
The fans take advantage of Mira not being there to say she's weak but she always gets enough hype and even feats at times to warrant her rating. And Mira is not important in FT. She will never get the attention Erza and even Laxus gets so we should not just say oh well Mira is weaker because she isn't present in an arc. Even when Mashima makes her lose he does it with a reason so justify this so as to not affect her rep i.e. Azuma and her choosing to save Lisanna.
what i mean here, if story doesnt now end and this is not the last fights, then erza will get more fights. might not happen for mira because Mishma again. otherwise, this erza move may be her strongest move as well
i guess people have different ways of proving things to themselves. i normally start with "i might be wrong", so i always need abnormal evidence for my side vs the opposing
The thing is it doesn't matter if Erza gets more again because it failed to have her surpass Laxus and even Mira all story long. So logically if Erza gets more feats or more powers, next time you see Laxus and Mira they'd have more feats, more powers and/or more hype like most reliable duo/strongest in the middle so Mira or Laxus/Laxus is 2nd strongest after Gildarts etc that has been shown in the past. It is understood that she will not surpass Laxus/Gildarts for example when she powers up again or does something ridiculous like breaking Irene's meteor or beating Kyoka because she's erza.
My point is really, Mira's scaling is consistent and here to stay and her being half of Miraxus just give more potential to it. She's been hyped in the battle of FT, Tenrou, GMG, Tartaros, 100 years quest, notably. Technically the fact that heine and juliet could push BSS like that in a 2 vs one gives them a combined power beyond Gray/Gajeel w/o POF.