On Break One Piece Chapter 1193 Discussion

[HolyLord]

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He built an entire possession theory around a child’s nightmare monster.

That thing is not “Evil Nika.” It is one of Killingham’s dream manifestations from chapter 1142, created from the children’s fears. This specific version comes from a frightening story one child was told by a parent: Nika will one day “destroy the World.” In context, “the World” is clearly not Elbaf or the literal planet, but Imu/the World Government’s order.

So the child naturally imagined Nika as a scary monster with a sword and shield. Using that as evidence for a secret berserker form that will possess Luffy, kill Usopp, destroy Elbaf, and fight Imu is an absurd leap. These days people will make up any shit-ass theory for likes.

 

[Imfamux]

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He built an entire possession theory around a child’s nightmare monster.

That thing is not “Evil Nika.” It is one of Killingham’s dream manifestations from chapter 1142, created from the children’s fears. This specific version comes from a frightening story one child was told by a parent: Nika will one day “destroy the World.” In context, “the World” is clearly not Elbaf or the literal planet, but Imu/the World Government’s order.

So the child naturally imagined Nika as a scary monster with a sword and shield. Using that as evidence for a secret berserker form that will possess Luffy, kill Usopp, destroy Elbaf, and fight Imu is an absurd leap. These days people will make up any shit-ass theory for likes.

I agree with you, I really think sometimes we just overthhink w things - as ice always said, Nika is exactly like Shiva- destroyer but to the freedom warrior ! Not 2 Akuma, neither Yami Yami being dark nika

 

[kcd]

I know what's in the box... It's Nika's shield and spear. That's why he's reacting

 

[DunD]

I bet the letter Biblo is showing is regarding that same warning from Louis Arnote..

i like that. I was thinking maybe a poneglyph due to the shape of that chest.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Realize it too late but... the "Letter" is an entire phoneglyph encased in a giant wood treasure like chest structure...


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i like that. I was thinking maybe a poneglyph due to the shape of that chest.

I agreed.. sorry i didnt see your comment

 

[kkck]

Ok, so the summary puts luffy in a pretty precarious position with the implication that his wounds will return if his G5 goes out. He needs to not only hold onto the form until imu backs down at least but also make it back to a doctor. Luffy can use G5 for BS but the situation is still dire. Maybe he will need sommer's metal heart to survive?

It feels weird that the metal heart is the key to their immortality. You'd think gaban and the others would have realized. Add to that, conqueror haki still slows down their regeneration.

 

[Imfamux]

I know what's in the box... It's Nika's shield and spear. That's why he's reacting

That would be amazing - but could be to - a power like Joyboy left to Emeth - or a power-up from the past - and indeed is poneglyph like !

By the way i'm haveing the same feeling i've had in 1181 - Hybrid Loki could be use to upsacel again Imu in his 3rd form - or in this 2 form - the face he is doing isn't looking good, almost like the face gunko did in 1153 ... and all elbaf trembling.. i'm betting everythingthat Imu has 5 forms to

 

[Federicoxxx]

Love Zoro's chilling.. and even more Sommer's horror faces.. those are more fun than Luffy's

 

[SanaNeOlm]

After reading a cleaner version of the chapter, I think Zoro actually directly hit the heart but couldn't penetrate it so it bounced off. Not enough CoC?

 

[DeadlyBeast]

He was but like subconsciously. He didn't even noticed that he awakened conqueror until Gaban pointed this out in Elbaf. Now Zoro probably decided to use Sommers as punching bag to learn how to use conqueror intencionally from now on and I really like that idea. Sommers deserve to be nothing more than someone practice target. Honestly his immortality works more in Zoros favor in such situation. After all punching bag that dosen't fall apart too easily works best for its user.




You know, it's funny how Knights didn't wanted to mess with Luffy the Yonko at the beggining of arc but now they are totally about to get their asses whooped. Honestly it all could be avoided if they choose completly diffrent day to invade Elbaf. If they didn't came in same day as Luffy and co did to visit friends Elbaf would be already done.

That was my thought too especially about KoH mode where it looks like he is using aCoC constantly since he has the same trailing black lighting that we got used to in Wano. And he already used this mode against Sommers already so why I'm confused now is from the spoilers Sommers is acting like Zoro using CoC is a new threat. I know from Zoro's perspective its an upgrade to be able to use it consciously vs always having to go all out in KoH mode to leverage his CoC but from Sommers point of view it shouldn't make a difference right?

 

[CharlosTenryuubito]

The death of Imus 2 knights will weaken him greatly. We already saw him suffered from the death of Harald. This will be Luffy and Loki chance to deal a final blow.

 

[Federicoxxx]

The death of Imus 2 knights will weaken him greatly. We already saw him suffered from the death of Harald. This will be Luffy and Loki chance to deal a final blow.

I wonder if Sanji's also know about the heart... also i want to MAKE SURE ONCE AND FOR ALL-- all the GKS have it.. and is not just a "Sommer's thing" ,, i guess everyone have it and it is the key to infinite regen ...

 

[zafool974]

Robin tried to cock block us from getting epic lore. Bilbo shut that shit down right away

 

[Federicoxxx]

Robin tried to cock block us from getting epic lore. Bilbo shut that shit down right away

I started to really fucking hate her... and she is so chill while the rest is doing the impossible to fight and help..is like she doesnt care a fuck about anything..

She doesnt help.. she doesnt share.. she is doing less than usopp.. someone should trow her at the sea..

everething she learns keep it by herself.. the last time she was forced to share it was in zou on the road phoneglyph..

Not a word about pluton. now a word on fishman island one and joyboy.... not a word of the two Bm phoneglyphs..including the one Jinbei found.. and she probably wont say a word about this one neither

 

[kcd]

By the way i'm haveing the same feeling i've had in 1181 - Hybrid Loki could be use to upsacel again Imu in his 3rd form - or in this 2 form - the face he is doing isn't looking good, almost like the face gunko did in 1153 ... and all elbaf trembling.. i'm betting everythingthat Imu has 5 forms to

Man, I feel exactly the same; he’s been playing with his food.

Imu struggling earlier can be likened to Luffy struggling against Hody Jones in Fishman Island when he could’ve pulled out Gear 4 anytime. They even have similar situations... like being underwater was an inconvenience for Luffy, just like coming down from the Red Line was for Imu. Still, I expect Imu to pull out a stronger form or fight more seriously against hybrid Loki.

 

[Imfamux]

Man, I feel exactly the same; he’s been playing with his food.

Imu struggling earlier can be likened to Luffy struggling against Hody Jones in Fishman Island when he could’ve pulled out Gear 4 anytime. They even have similar situations... like being underwater was an inconvenience for Luffy, just like coming down from the Red Line was for Imu. Still, I expect Imu to pull out a stronger form or fight more seriously against hybrid Loki.

i woundl't say more serious,., dude is cold as fuck since the start - Loki AND Luffy are alive only bc ODA want to - or Imu would've finished O.P by now -
And i fully agree with you - you actully cooked with this one about rdy jones !

I can putmore into it - maybe Imuisn't actually transforming to just "power up" but rather to resit MORE against this "curse" that he has ! bc right now he isn't just fighing a nika or nidhog - he is fighint against the lower world completelly ( or even the sea itself !) that isall time trying to repell him

 

[marco1701]

Not a word about pluton. now a word on fishman island one and joyboy.... not a word of the two Bm phoneglyphs..including the one Jinbei found.. and she probably wont say a word about this one neither

Maybe you should re-read last 3/4 arcs, because you seem to misremembering a lot of things...

Robin has great love for her crewmates, as we saw during Wano's battle with Black Maria; she informed immediately the crew about Pluton being in Wano, and Luffy even said that he doesn't care about it.
We didn't saw her report about Joyboy, but they surely knew about him (obvious from Usop's speech last chapter) so it was offscreened: we were already informed about it during her talk with Neptune, so it wasn't necessary to show it again.
The same thing must have happened with BM ones, one of them was a Road PG and Robin for sure informed Nami about it.

There're a lot of things that we don't see directly in the manga, but reading with a bit of attention sometimes fill the holes.

 

[Federicoxxx]

Maybe you should re-read last 3/4 arcs, because you seem to misremembering a lot of things...

Robin has great love for her crewmates, as we saw during Wano's battle with Black Maria; she informed immediately the crew about Pluton being in Wano, and Luffy even said that he doesn't care about it.
We didn't saw her report about Joyboy, but they surely knew about him (obvious from Usop's speech last chapter) so it was offscreened: we were already informed about it during her talk with Neptune, so it wasn't necessary to show it again.
The same thing must have happened with BM ones, one of them was a Road PG and Robin for sure informed Nami about it.

There're a lot of things that we don't see directly in the manga, but reading with a bit of attention sometimes fill the holes.

Really? where did it say anything about.pluton be deep into wano other than To law? and justt cause he was there.

Refer.me to that please..

Also She is still an Ice wall.. nothing redeem her from the rest.. this chapter proof she was about doing the same..

Getting a little tired of such " Only i can read so i decide what to tell or not " Attitude..

The amount of bitchy attitude she is collecting is astrnomical.

 

[Rein Avara]

Really? where did it say anything about.pluton be deep into wano other than To law? and justt cause he was there.

Refer.me to that please..

Also She is still an Ice wall.. nothing redeem her from the rest.. this chapter proof she was about doing the same..

Getting a little tired of such " Only i can read so i decide what to tell or not " Attitude..

The amount of bitchy attitude she is collecting is astrnomical.

She talks about in Chapter 1056, she asks Luffy if he wants it and he says no...

I also don't think Robin has any sort of Bitchy attitude, I'm not really sure where you got that from..

 

[Battle Wolf]

So Loki give a hint about how to defeat an GK but Zoro still lack aCoC to break through that heart, isn't just simple iron heart after all... Can Sanji do something with killinghan that can break the heart too? Burn it until it meltdown? It's a possibility.

I don't see anything so strange about Luffy noticing something different after almost losing G5 - the panel show a interrogation but that means nothing at all.

And Biblo wants Robin, Saul and Chopper to open that chest right away, someone has a theory about what we're about to discovery? I didn't have a glimpse.