Football 2014 FIFA World Cup

[MiyamotoMusashi]

What a circus

 

[Hardy]

How is this related to the WC

 

[Leoat12]

World Cup always was after European Leagues seasons, it is not something new and if it were just a matter of fatigue, it would have happened in the past. They played poorly and deserved lose, fatigue is for me loser excuses.
Please, don't think that European teams are invencible because it was never true and never will be. These complains is staining everything that that World Cup brought: good and exciting soccer.

 

[FrostyMouse]

No one cares about Diego Maradona, Pele, fat Ronaldo, or any of those other jerks. They're all just attention whores and the fact that we're paraded with their faces during tournaments is, frankly, disgusting.

 

[Leoat12]

Since Ronaldo speech about the protests saying that "we don't make a World Cup with hospitals" we stop to listen to him.

 

[zelllogan]

World Cup always was after European Leagues seasons, it is not something new and if it were just a matter of fatigue, it would have happened in the past. They played poorly and deserved lose, fatigue is for me loser excuses.
Please, don't think that European teams are invencible because it was never true and never will be. These complains is staining everything that that World Cup brought: good and exciting soccer.

What has always been a fact is also that your countries need football much more than european countries due to your status as developping country or second world country. There is more envy to succeed in football which has been for a long time the only way to get out of poor living conditions.

I know .. That was bad but true nonetheless

 

[Hardy]

Outcome tables. It's pretty well done tbh.

I know .. That was bad but true nonetheless

And completely unrelated, yeah.

 

[Leoat12]

This 1st half was a bit disappointing because I expected more attitude from Netherlands. Chile is attacking more, but it isn't knowing how to finalize its attacks, it lets the match boring.

 

[ibra87]

Spain finally uses Villa and he scores. So disappointed with del Biscuit.

 

[zelllogan]

Spain finally uses Villa and he scores. So disappointed with del Biscuit.

It didn't help that Diego Costa was jeered each time he had the ball by a really awful brasilian public. The guy just choose the nationality he felt closer. Give him a break.

 

[Hardy]

Joking aside, IIRC Scolari never showed any interest in him, so he just played with Spain. There isn't a lot to choose if you have only 1 option, lol.

Funny thing is, everyone in Brazil complains they don't have a top level 9. Costa could had been that guy (I remark the ¨could¨).

 

[TheMoa]

What has always been a fact is also that your countries need football much more than european countries due to your status as developping country or second world country. There is more envy to succeed in football which has been for a long time the only way to get out of poor living conditions.

I know .. That was bad but true nonetheless

it may have been in the past, man... but it isn't as you think, imo. No more than poor kids on usa see basketball or american football as the only mean for a better life.

most of the people like football, and it's the main sport by far.. but on the last decade people have been getting better access to college education, and all that stuff.
The level of the education remains poor, but we're already having problems like too many engineers on certain areas

 

[Hardy]

The Netherlands score... I guess they'll play Brazil in the next round

it may have been in the past, man... but it isn't as you think, imo. No more than poor kids on usa see basketball or american football as the only mean for a better life.

most of the people like football, and it's the main sport by far.. but on the last decade people have been getting better access to college education, and all that stuff.
The level of the education remains poor, but we're already having problems like too many engineers on certain areas

You also have literally one of the best economies in the planet. I'm surprised one of you guys decided to reply him, after all it was a jab that came out of nowhere, lol.

 

[Leoat12]

Chile tried, but they will not escape from Brazil this time as well.

 

[xi0]

I don't know how big a problem it is. Most big teams have many players from Europe. For example Argentina has Aguero, Messi, Di Maria and Higuain to mention some. Brazil has Neymar, Marcelo, David Luiz, Oscar, the list goes on. I don't know if these players are really underperforming. Seems more like a team issue overall. That's just two examples from the western non-Europe world. I guess teams like USA are less strained but I don't know how much of a factor that is when you have the type of quality these teams have, they should roll over such opponents regardless of playing at 90%. In Portugal's place only 3 obviously play for "super clubs", and only 1 of them is playing. Even all three I couldn't say underperformed. The team overall just sucks hard. I don't think it's exhaustion, it's the overall mentality being dreadful.

10 members of our team play in European Leagues, so it isn't as if our entire team is "well-rested" because of MLS's weird scheduling or anything like that.

 

[zelllogan]

The Netherlands score... I guess they'll play Brazil in the next round



You also have literally one of the best economies in the planet. I'm surprised one of you guys decided to reply him, after all it was a jab that came out of nowhere, lol.

It's not from nowhere. It's trying to explain why south american teams are so successful in world cups. Denying the fact that football has always been regarded as a mean to escape poverty ... I guess you lack distance with the facts.

Yes brasil is the sixth economy in the world but it's also a two-way society with a huge discrepancy between poor and rich people.
As long as there will be this:

Spoiler

there will be people seeing Football as the only way out.

If it was presented as a jab, it's because I was annoyed by this

World Cup always was after European Leagues seasons, it is not something new and if it were just a matter of fatigue, it would have happened in the past.

which is simply not true. The intensity nowadays is much bigger and some players are playing way too much in Europe.

 

[Hardy]

It's not from nowhere. It's trying to explain why south american teams are so successful in world cups. Denying the fact that football has always been regarded as a mean to escape poverty ... I guess you lack distance with the facts.

Leo simply said: They played badly, it's not because they are tired nor anything like that, that's just a lame excuse.

And you replied: you live in a second world country filled with poor people.

Where the hell is a connection there?

 

[zelllogan]

Leo simply said: They played badly, it's not because they are tired nor anything like that, that's just a lame excuse.

And you replied: you live in a second world country filled with poor people.

Where the hell is a connection there?

I didn't reply that. Don't disform what I told. For me, it's a continuation of my argument of last page. Football and especially national team is more important in south american countries and yes, poverty is a factor.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...verty--the-creator-of-superstars-9432245.html

 

[Hardy]

If it was presented as a jab, it's because I was annoyed by this

which is simply not true. The intensity nowadays is much bigger and some players are playing way too much in Europe.

How isn't that true? It's not like (for example) Brazil has 90 % of their players in Europe. Same with us (and our league ended like 2 days before the obliged vacations started, so that Europe league thing isn't true at all). Why would we excuse our terrible play with something like that?

I didn't reply that. Don't disform what I told. For me, it's a continuation of my argument of last page. Football and especially national team is more important in south american countries and yes, poverty is a factor.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...verty--the-creator-of-superstars-9432245.html

That's exatly what you replied. You took his reply as something personal and decided to throw a jab at him, lol. There's absolutely no connection between the post you did and the one you replied, other than the fact that his words somehow made you feel butthurt.

 

[goldb]

Please, enough. If you can't be discuss properly without the jabs, baiting or trolling, posts will be deleted.