Team 9 Demon Gates vs Diabolos

[Orphan Prince]

No proof she trained

No proof? Dude, she's fought Skullion, someone who defeated Gray, and she wasn't one-shotted. That's proof enough. Unless you want to argue that Mard Geer is >>>>>x793 Gray.

 

[Seven777]

No proof she trained

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Yeah and what makes you think that matching skullion means she trained? that just means that skullion is weak since he is from fodderbolos

No, Skullion beat current Gray, which confirms she trained.

 

[Vex_Haid]

No, Skullion beat current Gray, which confirms she trained.

how does that confrim she trained and he beat him when he was not bloodlusted

bloodlusted gray is when he fought invel

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No proof? Dude, she's fought Skullion, someone who defeated Gray, and she wasn't one-shotted. That's proof enough. Unless you want to argue that Mard Geer is >>>>>x793 Gray.

LOL GRAY WAS NOT EVEN BLOODLUSTED IF HE WAS BLOODLUSTED then he would no diff skullion and give him the invel treatment.

9 demon gates stomp EOS

 

[Orphan Prince]

LOL GRAY WAS NOT EVEN BLOODLUSTED IF HE WAS BLOODLUSTED then he would no diff skullion and give him the invel treatment.

x793 Casual Gray>>>x791 Bloodlusted Gray. How little do you think people improved?

 

[Brandish μ]

Not sure any of 9DG could damage Madmole? Individually or collectively, the 9DG does not have the attack power of Natsu currently (using FDK techs), which is the minimum requirement for taking out Madmole. And that's just Madmole. Someone like Suzaku is oneshotting everyone apart from Mard Geer maybe. Even without Suzaku or the elites/GM, Kiria+Madmole+Skullion would be superior.

 

[Seven777]

how does that confrim she trained and he beat him when he was not bloodlusted

bloodlusted gray is when he fought invel

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LOL GRAY WAS NOT EVEN BLOODLUSTED IF HE WAS BLOODLUSTED then he would no diff skullion and give him the invel treatment.

9 demon gates stomp EOS

Because he low diffed him

 

[Ramen]

Gray wasn't bloodlusted? Yet he chose to go DeS and use his strongest attacks. Anyone from FT goes bloodlusted when someone attacks them, that's the theme of the series itself.

Not sure any of 9DG could damage Madmole? Individually or collectively, the 9DG does not have the attack power of Natsu currently (using FDK techs), which is the minimum requirement for taking out Madmole. And that's just Madmole. Someone like Suzaku is oneshotting everyone apart from Mard Geer maybe. Even without Suzaku or the elites/GM, Kiria+Madmole+Skullion would be superior.

Why wouldn't Suzaku one-shot Mard Geer? MG does not have OP hax that can give him an advantage, plus, Suzaku would just blitz him.


Mira went from getting destroyed by Spirggan underlings to fighting people who scale massively above Spriggans. That right there is proof she trained.

 

[Axiomus]

The "base Mirajane = Skullion, so her other takeovers put Mirajane above Skullion" argument only works if Alegria, Seilah, and Sitri are better power-ups than Dragon Force. They aren't. 5th gen DF in particular turns you into a dragon. Base Madmole rivals current Natsu in physical strength. What do you think happens when Madmole turns into a dragon?

Also, nobody here can see Wraith. Wraith can rip the soul out of people and eat them for a power-up.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Not sure any of 9DG could damage Madmole? Individually or collectively, the 9DG does not have the attack power of Natsu currently (using FDK techs), which is the minimum requirement for taking out Madmole. And that's just Madmole. Someone like Suzaku is oneshotting everyone apart from Mard Geer maybe. Even without Suzaku or the elites/GM, Kiria+Madmole+Skullion would be superior.

Lol i doubt that suzaku can cut there etherious mard geers skin

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Gray wasn't bloodlusted? Yet he chose to go DeS and use his strongest attacks. Anyone from FT goes bloodlusted when someone attacks them, that's the theme of the series itself.



Why wouldn't Suzaku one-shot Mard Geer? MG does not have OP hax that can give him an advantage, plus, Suzaku would just blitz him.


Mira went from getting destroyed by Spirggan underlings to fighting people who scale massively above Spriggans. That right there is proof she trained.

mard geer just erases suzaku simple

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The "base Mirajane = Skullion, so her other takeovers put Mirajane above Skullion" argument only works if Alegria, Seilah, and Sitri are better power-ups than Dragon Force. They aren't. 5th gen DF in particular turns you into a dragon. Base Madmole rivals current Natsu in physical strength. What do you think happens when Madmole turns into a dragon?

Also, nobody here can see Wraith. Wraith can rip the soul out of people and eat them for a power-up.

franmalth absorbs wraith
anyways seilah still solos no one can debunk my arguments

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and gray was not bloodlusted at all lmao if he was bloodlusted he would give skullion the invel treatment

 

[Orphan Prince]

anyways seilah still solos no one can debunk my arguments

And what happens if Kyria uses her hax on Seliah? That effectively makes Seliah a part of team Diabolos here.

Lol i doubt that suzaku can cut there etherious mard geers skin

Dude, have you seen the latest chapter?

Spoiler

Faking or not, he still did it to her. Suzaku casually slices through Mard Geer.

 

[Vex_Haid]

And what happens if Kyria uses her hax on Seliah? That effectively makes Seliah a part of team Diabolos here.



Dude, have you seen the latest chapter?

Spoiler

Faking or not, he still did it to her. Suzaku casually slices through Mard Geer.

Sorry but seilah still solos, kyria aint touching her the power gap is huge

im sorry but cutting selene is not the same as cutting etherious mard geer who tanked a igneel style DF dragon slayer secret art like nothing besides didnt base mard geer tank CSK blade? dont quite remember but if he did then his piercing durability>selenes, we don't know how sharp suzakus sword is so

 

[grey matter]

Sorry but seilah still solos, kyria aint touching her the power gap is huge

im sorry but cutting selene is not the same as cutting etherious mard geer who tanked a igneel style DF dragon slayer secret art like nothing besides didnt base mard geer tank CSK blade? dont quite remember but if he did then his piercing durability>selenes, we don't know how sharp suzakus sword is so

Seilah isn't even as strong as Kyouka who got defeated by x791 Erza
The accurate statement is Seilah isn't touching Kyria, who was strong enough to casually one shot x793 Wendy & Erza with her roar, and give x793 Erza mid diff without hax.

Means little since Igneel >>>>>>>>> x791 DF Natsu
Mard tanked CSK, so what? Selene >>>>> CSK as well. Cutting Selene is far superior to tanking CSK

Selene is an Acno tier dragon. She should have Acno tier stats.
EVEN IF what happened in current chapter was an illusion, Suzaku had already made Selene bleed many chapters ago. Making Selene bleed is far more than enough to conclude that Suzaku EASILY cuts through Mard's defence

P.S
Stop making me shit on Mard lmao. The guy is my top 3 most fav in the series, I take no pleasure in putting him down

 

[Vex_Haid]

Seilah isn't even as strong as Kyouka who got defeated by x791 Erza
The accurate statement is Seilah isn't touching Kyria, who was strong enough to casually one shot x793 Wendy & Erza with her roar, and give x793 Erza mid diff without hax.

Means little since Igneel >>>>>>>>> x791 DF Natsu
Mard tanked CSK, so what? Selene >>>>> CSK as well. Cutting Selene is far superior to tanking CSK

Selene is an Acno tier dragon. She should have Acno tier stats.
EVEN IF what happened in current chapter was an illusion, Suzaku had already made Selene bleed many chapters ago. Making Selene bleed is far more than enough to conclude that Suzaku EASILY cuts through Mard's defence

P.S
Stop making me shit on Mard lmao. The guy is my top 3 most fav in the series, I take no pleasure in putting him down

Seilah one shotted Satan soul sitri should be enough to one shot skullion who could not even beat a controled BSS mira

Lol show proof that cutting selene is a good feat even tho she has 0 piercing durability resistance, and if mard geer did tank CSK blade in base then suzaku wont be able to cut him and selene is only TI acno tier

 

[grey matter]

Seilah one shotted Satan soul sitri should be enough to one shot skullion who could not even beat a controled BSS mira

Lol show proof that cutting selene is a good feat even tho she has 0 piercing durability resistance, and if mard geer did tank CSK blade in base then suzaku wont be able to cut him and selene is only TI acno tier

x793 Mira >>>> x791 Mira. Since you demand proof for even the most self evident statements, sure. Here is that undeniable proof.

x791 Sitri Soul Mira would get destroyed by GMG Jura. By her own admission, Jura far outclassed her, she was doubtful of beating him even if she could team up with x791 Erza (pre 2nd origin)
You say "serious" DeS Gray would've destroyed Skullion. By serious, you mean darkness (POF) Gray that destroyed Invel? Maybe. We don't know, but whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Because, casual x793 DeS Gray > x793 base Gray ~ x793 base Natsu >> x792 base Natsu >>> Bluenote ~ GMG Jura
Skullion defeated casual x793 DeS Gray.
Mira stalemated Skullion.
Therefore, x793 Mira > x793 casual Gray >>>> GMG Jura >> x791 Sitri Soul Mira.
End.


She has zero piercing durability based on what? Are you telling me that random sword attacks from Romeo will cut her?
Larcade blocked all of Kagura's slashes with a single finger. The fact that Larcade no sold slashes from Kagura, while getting damaged by Sting's spells and knocked out by dual element Sting shows us that there isn't really any specific "pierce durability". This isn't a game lol. Either you are powerful enough to tank an attack, or you aren't. If an attack has enough energy density, it will damage, irrespective of pierce armour or whatever.
Mard tanked CSK, so what? Suzaku >>>> CSK based on the sole fact that he hurt Selene, while CSK couldn't hurt base Mard.
TI Acno? You mean Acno before absorbing time lapse? Doesn't matter, regular Acno was already strong enough to one shot EVERY SINGLE SPRIGGAN. If she's regular Acno tier, and Suzaku managed to hurt her, that is sufficient to put Suzaku over Mard Geer and over Spriggan

 

[Orphan Prince]

Sorry but seilah still solos, kyria aint touching her the power gap is huge

How is Kyria not touching Seliah? She hit a vastly more powerful version of Erza with that very same spell during their battle. She should be able to do that to Seliah within the first few seconds if she wanted to.

Spoiler: Kyria using Strength-Cutting on Erza

Spoiler: How Erza initially reacted

Spoiler: The Effect it had on x793 Erza

If Kyria managed to catch Erza off-guard in the middle of their battle, she could easily do the same thing against nearly any Demon Gate.

selene is only TI acno tier

Even if that is the case, cutting down a Dragon on the level of Tenrou Island Acnologia is an amazing feat that automatically puts him tiers above Mard Geer, even if Selene is an illusion or clone (Which hopefully she was), he still did it.

 

[Vex_Haid]

How is Kyria not touching Seliah? She hit a vastly more powerful version of Erza with that very same spell during their battle. She should be able to do that to Seliah within the first few seconds if she wanted to.

Spoiler: Kyria using Strength-Cutting on Erza

Spoiler: How Erza initially reacted

Spoiler: The Effect it had on x793 Erza

If Kyria managed to catch Erza off-guard in the middle of their battle, she could easily do the same thing against nearly any Demon Gate.



Even if that is the case, cutting down a Dragon on the level of Tenrou Island Acnologia is an amazing feat that automatically puts him tiers above Mard Geer, even if Selene is an illusion or clone (Which hopefully she was), he still did it.

lol erza was holding back if she wasn't then explain why did kyria call erza a monster during her battle with laxus? btws kyria is weaker and slower then both madmole and skullion. skullion was someone that got bodied and was not able to keep up with a controlled BSS mira while base seilah already scales above BSS and in etherious form she can one shot satan soul sitri which should already put her above anyone in diabolos (except for suzaku) even if mira trained then what makes you think that she got way stronger? cause she obv didn't at best she would only get like2 or 3x stronger, does not change the fact that SSS (x791)>>>>>BSS (x793) and lol kyoka,silver,seilah,torafuzer or tempester would just kill kyria and skullion,nebal and madmole while franmalth absorbs wratih.
TBH franmalth can probably beat everyone in diabolos up 1 on 1 (except for suzaku and georg if he has good feats) since franmalth has base hades soul and base hades mid-high diffed laxus, yes laxus got stronger but again just barely and he still one shot kyria (while being controlled) and since franmalth>base hades franmalth should be able to take a majority or probably solo diabolos (not including suzaku or georg)

Lol so what if she is on tenrou island acnologias level? she has no piercing durability feats like acnologia so we cant really scale how sharp the sword is really and it won't be able to cut threw mard geer either way since mard geer has shown to be able to tank swords (during his battle with CSK i think that he tanked his blade)

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x793 Mira >>>> x791 Mira. Since you demand proof for even the most self evident statements, sure. Here is that undeniable proof.

x791 Sitri Soul Mira would get destroyed by GMG Jura. By her own admission, Jura far outclassed her, she was doubtful of beating him even if she could team up with x791 Erza (pre 2nd origin)
You say "serious" DeS Gray would've destroyed Skullion. By serious, you mean darkness (POF) Gray that destroyed Invel? Maybe. We don't know, but whether it's true or not is irrelevant. Because, casual x793 DeS Gray > x793 base Gray ~ x793 base Natsu >> x792 base Natsu >>> Bluenote ~ GMG Jura
Skullion defeated casual x793 DeS Gray.
Mira stalemated Skullion.
Therefore, x793 Mira > x793 casual Gray >>>> GMG Jura >> x791 Sitri Soul Mira.
End.


She has zero piercing durability based on what? Are you telling me that random sword attacks from Romeo will cut her?
Larcade blocked all of Kagura's slashes with a single finger. The fact that Larcade no sold slashes from Kagura, while getting damaged by Sting's spells and knocked out by dual element Sting shows us that there isn't really any specific "pierce durability". This isn't a game lol. Either you are powerful enough to tank an attack, or you aren't. If an attack has enough energy density, it will damage, irrespective of pierce armour or whatever.
Mard tanked CSK, so what? Suzaku >>>> CSK based on the sole fact that he hurt Selene, while CSK couldn't hurt base Mard.
TI Acno? You mean Acno before absorbing time lapse? Doesn't matter, regular Acno was already strong enough to one shot EVERY SINGLE SPRIGGAN. If she's regular Acno tier, and Suzaku managed to hurt her, that is sufficient to put Suzaku over Mard Geer and over Spriggan

Mira being doubtful of being jura does not mean anything, everyone was doubtful of laxus beating jura but in the end he actually did. that alone debunks miras statement.
yeah skullion beat him but again lost to BSS mira who still was not training LOL and again she was being mind controlled = weaker. and gray is not weaker then skullion at all every villain that appears in FT most times just have the edge on the MCS and then they go on and become fodder so it should be obvious that gray>>>skullion the best scale here is mira who did not train one bit and was still holding her own against skullion in BSS while being controlled and actually made him run away while seilah one shotted satan soul sitri.

yeah a normal knife attack can cut selene now since there is no scale to how sharp suzakus sword was. larcade no sold slashes from kagura was because he had alot of piercing durability and lost to sting was because sting got a powerup, please go rewatch the fight. u can be powerful enough to tank a bodybuilder punching you like nothing but still be cut by a pocket knife. lol suzaku did not hurt selene one bit he only managed to cut her was because she was shocked that he knows kurnugi and that she has 0 piercing durability feats. not even a good feat and CSK>>>>suzaku.suzaku didn't do shit to selene and only managed to cut her was because she had 0 piercing durability feats meanwhile CSK can cut threw a island sized cube and can be scaled to spriggan tier without wank unlike suzaku, and TI = Tenrou island acno and selene only scales to him she is not equal to or stronger she only scales to tenrou island acno and has 0 magic immunity + 0 piercing durability feats = making suzakus feat useless. im sorry but suzaku is not above mard geer or the spriggans (except for ajeel and neinhart and probably jacob)

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

DEs destroys.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Seilah solos
BSS Mira>Skullion (who is not that far away from nebal)
And base scales well above BSS mira easily putting her above skullion
In her form she one shot Satan soul sitri and satan soul sitri>>>>halphas>>>>>BSS, even base seilah scales to halphas or sitri. and no mira did not get stronger lmao like she even trained. seilah,kyoka or silver solo, torafuzer or tempester could also solo knowing that in their etherious forms they scale above Base seilah

9 demon gates curb stomps

Lmao


I couldn't stop laughing when I read this

 

[Steven]

How is this even a thread?Nebal solos

 

[Vex_Haid]

Someones obsessed with me that they go to every thread i am and quote me

Anyways the gates stomp