Done A possible unrecognized phrase?

[vigorousjammer]

Hey there, folks!
So, I'm translating this series, and I came across a line, which I'm not entirely sure about.

うれしくってヨダレが出ちゃうね

Note that this is somewhat of a continuation of the previous line, which I translated as "It's too late. Your entire goddamn species should already know that there isn't a single place, nationwide, where you bastards can live in peace."

So, for this line, I'm reading it as something like "But I'll happily send you someplace you can."

"can" referring to "live in peace", of course.

However, ヨダレ has me confused... I know that literally it means drool or saliva, or the act of drooling, but it doesn't seem to fit with any of the other words.
Is it a part of some phrase I'm simply unfamiliar with, or is there something else I'm missing with this line?

 

[Utsune]

Hi, just my two cents. Afaik, ヨダレが出ちゃう can be used to describe something exciting/tempting/much desired that makes you drool over/your mouth water.

I'm not sure if I get your context entirely but I'm assuming the character says this after the line "But I'll happily send you someplace you can"? Either that or the group that will get sent says this in reply to the offer? What comes to mind would be "[someone is] so happy/glad that one could..." (assuming there isn't sarcasm.) Or if you're not opting for a literal option I guess you could go as far as simply saying something along the lines of ~"This is an attractive offer" IMO.

In any case, it depends on what is actually said previously.

 

[vigorousjammer]

While perhaps not sarcastic, it seems a bit snarky / cocky within the context, since he's threatening them.

The previous line is
すでに全国の仲間はおまえの事を知っているきさまに安住の地はない
which I translated as
"It's too late. Your entire goddamn species should already know that there isn't a single place, nationwide, where you bastards can live in peace."
If you're wondering where I got "species" from, that came from 仲間, since he's referring to a group of aliens, which were previously established as all being the same race. And even though I know 安住の地 can mean "a safe haven", I split it up differently and styled it a bit to give it a better flow in English, while still retaining the meaning.


Anyway, the next line after that is the one I was asking about: うれしくってヨダレが出ちゃうね

In that line I'm reading 出ちゃう as "to lead to" (implying that he's going to lead them to hell)
So, literally, I suppose it can be read as "I'd be very happy to lead you.", which I would then style as "but I'd be more than happy to send you someplace you can."

 

[Shiratori99]

> すでに全国の仲間はおまえの事を知っているきさまに安住の地はない

おまえ is singular and 全国の仲間 is the subject of this sentence, so I think it should translate to: "My friends in the whole country already know of your existence, so there's no place where you bastard can hide".

> うれしくってヨダレが出ちゃうね

I'd imagine that the guy he's saying this line to is literally drooling. So: "I see you're already drooling from happiness (anticipation)". Or (if he isn't drooling): "Makes you drool from happiness, huh?".

 

[vigorousjammer]

> すでに全国の仲間はおまえの事を知っているきさまに安住の地はない

おまえ is singular and 全国の仲間 is the subject of this sentence, so I think it should translate to: "My friends in the whole country already know of your existence, so there's no place where you bastard can hide".

> うれしくってヨダレが出ちゃうね

I'd imagine that the guy he's saying this line to is literally drooling. So: "I see you're already drooling from happiness (anticipation)". Or (if he isn't drooling): "Makes you drool from happiness, huh?".

Hmm... well, I guess perhaps I could re-phrase the first line to better reflect 全国の仲間...
However, I don't think he's referring to "my friends across the nation" but rather "your friends across the nation", at least that's what I got based on the context of the scene.
He's a rogue, and appears to be working alone... and these two monsters that he's talking to are trying to get him to become part of their group.
I also like the change where you made it "hide" instead of "live in peace", definitely makes more sense that way.

Maybe something like "It's too late. All of your people, spread across the entire nation, should already know there isn't a single place where you bastards can hide."
Although, it seems a bit odd to refer to their group as "people" since they're monsters, and the entire scene deals with the monsters talking about using 人間 as livestock basically. xD
I'll think of something, though, maybe I'll change it to "All of you assholes" since he is using おまえ

As for the second line, I like your change as well. Although I'm not really sure why they'd be happy to not have any place to hide...
I also still think 出ちゃう is referring to going on a journey, or exiting someplace (implying he'll send them to hell or something.)
This makes sense to me within the context, since he's trying to pick a fight with them, and they do charge at him directly after he says that line.
Maybe literally it'd be something like "I'd happily drool if you left." which I would style as something like "I'd be real glad if you were all gone."

 

[Utsune]

Perhaps the sentence would be more readily understood if you break it down as such:
すでに //
(1)全国の仲間は　-　(2)おまえの事を　-　(3)知っている // (1)Friends nationwide　-　(3)know　-　(2)of your existence
きさまに安住の地はない


Following your observation, his condescending tone would make sense of his sarcasm. If anything, I think the word/idea "Anticipation" as Shiratori has mentioned would do much better here.

(出ちゃう is referring to the ヨダレ, so unless Yodare is a person's name I don't think there would be any other way to interpret this.)

 

[vigorousjammer]

You seem like the most knowledgeable member here, so I feel like, as a beginner I shouldn't be questioning anything. However...
couldn't 事 also refer to "circumstances", and since の is possessive, couldn't おまえの事 also refer to "their circumstances"? As in "Your friends nationwide know of their (own) circumstances" (those circumstances being having no safe haven/place to hide, as is said in the rest of the line.)

If this is a possible translation, I feel it makes much more sense, given the context within the chapter...


As for the anticipation line, I have no doubt that the idea of anticipation plays a role, I'm simply wondering how.
If 出ちゃう is referring to ヨダレ, then where does うれしくって come into play?
I've been interpreting うれしくってヨダレ as meaning "happily drooling" (in other words, "anticipating"), and 出ちゃう as meaning "to leave/exit" (loosely referring to death/travelling to the other realm)

If it is sarcastic, as you suggested, perhaps he's saying something like "I bet you can't wait to die"
Although, since he doesn't outright say "die", perhaps I'd say something like "I bet you can't wait to go"
Although, perhaps that's too vague instead...

 

[Utsune]

Ah yes of course, "circumstance" is definitely an option here depending on context (I only used "existence" to be consistent with Shiratori's post.) The meaning of the sentence would be as you interpret: Their circumstances are known, therefore they have no safe haven.

As for the next line, you can take apart the sentence like so:
うれしくって //
ヨダレが出ちゃう
From the "Anticipation/happiness," they are "drooling." "Happy" here is not an adverb as in "happily drooling."

With all that's said, I would basically go with whatever Shiratori has in his post above ("Makes you drool from anticipation, huh?" since I'm guessing they aren't really drooling) give or take a minor change or two in the choice of words depending on context.

 

[vigorousjammer]

Okay, so... I think I finally figured out the second line, and I feel dumb for not realizing this before.
In the panel, the character is about to transform. So, I think 出ちゃう is probably referring to his transformation, using the meaning "to appear" / "to emerge" / "to show"

Spoiler

This is further evidenced by the line directly after that:
変身するぞ
させるか

Spoken by one of the monsters, provoking him to transform.


So, literally, I think
うれしくってヨダレが出ちゃうね
could be something like "You're drooling with anticipation for me to come forth"
or, well... since the speaker of this line is a cannibal, could he perhaps be referring to himself? Salivating before he eats a meal? This could be seen as some clever foreshadowing since... well...

Spoiler

He eats them later on in the chapter

If that's the case, then, perhaps "I'm drooling with anticipation to come forth" would be a better literal translation.
Which... I'm having a hard time making that flow naturally in English...


Edit: Just thought of another possibility, 出ちゃうね could be referring to starting an action, right? "to act" / "to move forward" / "to make a move"

So, could it be "I'm drooling with anticipation to make a move"?

In which case I could style it something like "I can't wait to take you on. My mouth's watering at the thought of it."

 

[Shiratori99]

The　出ちゃう definitely refers to ヨダレ. This is indicated by the connective particle が (ヨダレが出る　汗が出る etc are common expressions to say that one is drooling, sweating etc). It really just means that the drool is coming out (i.e. is visible). Since ヨダレ itself is just a noun meaning "drool".

>Hmm... well, I guess perhaps I could re-phrase the first line to better reflect 全国の仲間...
However, I don't think he's referring to "my friends across the nation" but rather "your friends across the nation", at least that's what I got based on the context of the scene.
He's a rogue, and appears to be working alone... and these two monsters that he's talking to are trying to get him to become part of their group.
I also like the change where you made it "hide" instead of "live in peace", definitely makes more sense that way.

Maybe something like "It's too late. All of your people, spread across the entire nation, should already know there isn't a single place where you bastards can hide."
Although, it seems a bit odd to refer to their group as "people" since they're monsters, and the entire scene deals with the monsters talking about using 人間 as livestock basically. xD
I'll think of something, though, maybe I'll change it to "All of you assholes" since he is using おまえ

Well, if he meant multiple people, he'd have said おまえら (you (plural)). おまえの事を知っている = know about you. Who's knowing? This is indicated by the topic marker は, so: 全国の仲間 = friends across the country know about you. So, whose friends does he mean? I don't know about that, but it wouldn't make much sense if it were the monster's friends, would it?

 

[Utsune]

This is further evidenced by the line directly after that:
変身するぞ
させるか

Spoken by one of the monsters, provoking him to transform.

Hi again, just a minor point. Since I don't read the manga (hence not knowing the characters/full context) so I could be misunderstanding you, but 変身するぞ is an observation here ("He's gonna transform!"), rather than a 'command,' which is what I think made you say 'provoking' here. This is evident from the next line させるか ("As if I'd let you!!") which makes their intention clear they don't want him transforming. (I'm assuming both are spoken by the monsters who're enemies with the guy who's about to transform.)

 

[vigorousjammer]

The　出ちゃう definitely refers to ヨダレ. This is indicated by the connective particle が (ヨダレが出る　汗が出る etc are common expressions to say that one is drooling, sweating etc). It really just means that the drool is coming out (i.e. is visible). Since ヨダレ itself is just a noun meaning "drool".

Ah, okay. Wait, so can ヨダレ also be talking about sweat? Does it refer to anything drippy?
Sweat would make more sense, I think... given the context, since he just got done telling them they have no place to hide, it makes sense that they would be intimidated.

Well, if he meant multiple people, he'd have said おまえら (you (plural)). おまえの事を知っている = know about you. Who's knowing? This is indicated by the topic marker は, so: 全国の仲間 = friends across the country know about you. So, whose friends does he mean? I don't know about that, but it wouldn't make much sense if it were the monster's friends, would it?

Alright, hear me out on this... couldn't おまえ be referring to a singular group of people? If 全国の仲間 is referring to the monsters' nationwide "friends" as you put it (I'm not fond of translating 仲間 that way, but that's another story), couldn't that be turned into a single group? in which case おまえの事 would be referring to that group's situation/circumstances?

I only think of it this way because of another line earlier in the chapter, where the monsters are talking about how the protagonist killed four of their 仲間
こいつかこの一年間に４人の仲間を殺し
which I translated as "A year ago, this bastard killed four of our kind."

They also say the following:
人間を喰らえば本当の紅丸が目覚めるやしれん
仲間になれ
"After this you'll come to your senses, Benimaru, eating people will become natural.
Then you'll become one of us."

On top of the monsters previously referring to their group as 仲間 there's also a moment later in the chapter where they crash into a space shuttle and the astronauts there say stuff like this -
な…なんだあれは！？
"Wh- What the hell?!"
………そんなまさか！？
"...That's impossible!!"

バケモノだ……………
"They're monsters..."
………バケモノ
"...monsters."

With shocked looks on their faces, as though this is the first time they've seen a monster.

The monsters also talk about starting a war with the humans... and expanding their civilization, so it's clear that they're trying to go across the nation, if they haven't already.
So, I feel like, in this case, 仲間　is referring to the monster's "friends" or, their "group", as I would put it.

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Hi again, just a minor point. Since I don't read the manga (hence not knowing the characters/full context) so I could be misunderstanding you, but 変身するぞ is an observation here ("He's gonna transform!"), rather than a 'command,' which is what I think made you say 'provoking' here. This is evident from the next line させるか ("As if I'd let you!!") which makes their intention clear they don't want him transforming. (I'm assuming both are spoken by the monsters who're enemies with the guy who's about to transform.)

They're spoken by the same monster, but yes.
Thanks for the correction. ^_^

 

[Utsune]

この一年間 refers to events/progress happening over the span of one year ("In the past year,") so simply "A year ago" would perhaps be a bit vague since it readily suggests a single event rather　than a spread of events.

人間を喰らえば // If one eats human
本当の紅丸が目覚めるやしれん // the/a real Benimaru may awaken

Yes, feel free to use a suitable word for 仲間. We stick to 'friends' since we don't know the full context, but there are definitely plenty of word choices depending on the　setting of the story and whatnot ("kind" sounds like a good choice here.)