Question About Outside God and the Tower

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Now that it is confirmed that the tower's purpose is to nurture someone who will eventually become an axis powerful enough to be a threat to phantaminium itself and the character in question most likely being baam , how does the tower relate with outside God?

We know enryu a servant of OG was powerful enough to kill an administrator so bare minimum OG scales above admins. So it is extremely strong.

Imo these can be couple of scenarios --

Scenario 1) While OG is a powerful being , it is still not an axis and it is trying to become one using baam. In this scenario it doesn't make sense for OG to create the tower otherwise why not simply powerup and became an axis by itself? So the tower has to be created by someone else. Maybe another axis who is helping OG to become an axis itself.

Scenario 2) OG is already an axis but is not the creator of the tower. Tower is attracting beings from different worlds/universes to become an axis and OG chose baam to become one from his side.

Scenario 3) OG is creator of tower and wants to become an axis using it himself. This imo makes least amount of sense as already explained in scenario 1.

Also was V initially meant to be the one to clear the tower initially and become an Axis? It is possibility given he was the one who learned revolution among great warriors.

Thoughts?



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[Ray Barracuda]

Aubrion implied that it was the Universe's will creating the Tower as a place to nurture a new existence.

Meaning the Outside god isn't the guy who created the Tower but the one In-charge of it.

So in a sense, the Outside god too is a servant of someone.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

None. Literally none of those examples.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Aubrion implied that it was the Universe's will creating the Tower as a place to nurture a new existence.

Meaning the Outside god isn't the guy who created the Tower but the one In-charge of it.

So in a sense, the Outside god too is a servant of someone.

Universe creates strong beings like urek/axis in need iirc. I don't think it can randomly create a tower or at least I hope not. Would be boring explanation if that is the case.

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None. Literally none of those examples.

What do you think?

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Universe creates strong beings like urek/axis in need iirc. I don't think it can randomly create a tower or at least I hope not. Would be boring explanation if that is the case.

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What do you think?

OG is the axis from the FHs universe. It’s phantaminum version basically. Enryu is the shiny one equivalent of its universe. While I don’t know and can’t think of a scenario for the OGs thought process, it’s likely it’s only carrying The will of Arlene, and that’s it. Potentially we’re friends or something.

I’m not sure Baam becoming an Axis is part of its plan. I think that’s Vs plan.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Universe creates strong beings like urek/axis in need iirc. I don't think it can randomly create a tower or at least I hope not. Would be boring explanation if that is the case.

Mhmm, wouldn't call it random considering the Tower is very carefully designed and all those tests and stuff were intentionally prepared for someone as Aubrion implied.

It took an unknown eon before Urek was spawned into creation so we can't say how long something like him had been cooking just to paraphrase here.

So the process of creating super powerful existences isn't something that occurs in an instant is what I can take from it.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

OG is the axis from the FHs universe. It’s phantaminum version basically. Enryu is the shiny one equivalent of its universe. While I don’t know and can’t think of a scenario for the OGs thought process, it’s likely it’s only carrying The will of Arlene, and that’s it. Potentially we’re friends or something.

I’m not sure Baam becoming an Axis is part of its plan. I think that’s Vs plan.

Hmm but iirc didn't arlen said that the world she came into after getting out of tower is different that the world she came from? Or she only meant it was different that her home?

Assuming she only meant her home , its interesting.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Hmm but iirc didn't arlen said that the world she came into after getting out of tower is different that the world she came from? Or she only meant it was different that her home?

Assuming she only meant her home , its interesting.

I’m assuming as much as you.

The real answer is very likely something none of us has any clue about.

but to me, that’s what I’m sticking with until further notice.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

1st case for me. OG is neither a creator nor axix.

Axix are born when universe needs it. So far only confirmed are phanta and UM. Assuming it's a single world, there's been no mention of OG so far. A being if in the same ball park as phanta should be mentioned atleast once. If it's multiverse, it makes no sense why they would consider the new axix as threatening one when there is already many axix.

I for one believe tower is a natural treasure. It can not only create an axix just for once but for many times as long as the condition are met that's why even the strongest, Phanta care for it. Tower won't be destroyed if someone awakens as axix.

 

[Zestia]

Mhmm, wouldn't call it random considering the Tower is very carefully designed and all those tests and stuff were intentionally prepared for someone as Aubrion implied.

It took an unknown eon before Urek was spawned into creation so we can't say how long something like him had been cooking just to paraphrase here.

So the process of creating super powerful existences isn't something that occurs in an instant is what I can take from it.

Had a similar thought that the tower was trying to nurture this individual to become the next axis by setting up all this test and trial. I am also pretty sure the person to become the next Axis is already predetermined so not anyone can become one.

I still think Baam has the highest chance, given that he could absorb admin powers he should eventually devour the tower. Bamm even had Enryu's thorn which is a outside power. This is as convenient as it could get and it's like everything was set up for him.

 

[VON]

OG is an axis.

if he was not the Tower’s creator, then that is the case even further. He had the power to send in Enryu and ignore the tower’s rules and gave something like the thorn. He surpasses the tower’s laws. That kind of being can only be an axis.

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To offer my own scenario.

OG is an axis. The tower is his creation. His purpose is to create another axis and form a powerful faction.

if SIU didn’t completely forgo his blogs, axis fights in the universe too. It should make sense to form alliances.

 

[Demonspeed]

The OG didn't create the Tower. It got interested in the Tower thanks to the contract with Arlen.

Not sure it's an Axis or not. Probably not one. Might be The Darkness itself who is trying to get back at Phanta.

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Or the OG had a link with V first, but V died. Then Arlen managed to reach him and they used Baam for V's resurrection.

 

[VON]

The OG didn't create the Tower. It got interested in the Tower thanks to the contract with Arlen.

Not sure it's an Axis or not. Probably not one. Might be The Darkness itself who is trying to get back at Phanta.

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Or the OG had a link with V first, but V died. Then Arlen managed to reach him and they used Baam for V's resurrection.

You don’t think it would take an axis to forcefully send someone inside the tower and gifted with the ability to control shinsoo even better than the gods of shinsoo?

don’t forget, a master of shinsoo like Enryu is a servant to this OG. It would be a crazier thought that the OG is not an axis and has a servant as powerful as Enryu.

 

[Demonspeed]

You don’t think it would take an axis to forcefully send someone inside the tower and gifted with the ability to control shinsoo even better than the gods of shinsoo?

don’t forget, a master of shinsoo like Enryu is a servant to this OG. It would be a crazier thought that the OG is not an axis and has a servant as powerful as Enryu.

An Irregular is an Irregular. All the GWs entered, Urek entered. Same for Baam. They did something to his corpse but no one forced him to open the doors.

I said it could be the Darkness itself and Darkness created Phanta, just like Light created Shinies. Baam's powers are tied to darkness.

 

[VON]

An Irregular is an Irregular. All the GWs entered, Urek entered. Same for Baam. They did something to his corpse but no one forced him to open the doors.

I said it could be the Darkness itself and Darkness created Phanta, just like Light created Shinies. Baam's powers are tied to darkness.

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I consider Darkness and Light Axises too.

 

[Demonspeed]

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I consider Darkness and Light Axises too.

I don't. Kinda hard for me to call them like this since they don't even seem to have physical bodies.

 

[Realfan]

Aubrion implied that it was the Universe's will creating the Tower as a place to nurture a new existence.

Meaning the Outside god isn't the guy who created the Tower but the one In-charge of it.

So in a sense, the Outside god too is a servant of someone.

We can't be too sure yet, since we still don't have a proper translated chapter.

Who knows, what was might be different.

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I consider Darkness and Light Axises too.

That would mean the shinsoo is an axis too .

 

[Demonspeed]

That would mean the shinsoo is an axis too .

??? Shinsoo isn't an entity.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

@arrowofsky Didn't tag you initially as you were on break. What are your thoughts regarding this?

 

[arrowofsky]

I am closer to Scenario 1 where workshop the one to create the axis, and OG may not be by definition become an axis afterwards Baam become, but somehow he may be immune to the destruction that will be from Baam because of his first inclusion.