Discussion Absalom's real DF abilities

[hokageji]

It was recently confirmed that the journalist Absa is actually Absolem. Now we know he has a DF ability to make himself invisible, allowing him to get extremely close and spy on conversations like Luffy-Law alliance, Kidd-Apoo-Hawkins alliance.


While that DF ability is quite useful for spying, plain sight was never enough escape from being spotted. Remm how Luffy, Zoro and Sanji sensed Caribou even when he was not in plain sight. Now I would assume the other supernovas, specially Kidd, Apoo and Hawkins would have noticed Absa coming in and stepping out through Haki, but they didnt. We also saw a ship similar to Moria's leave the area...

This brings me to two possibilities:
1. Absolem got stronger and learned to mask his presence
2. His DF ability allows to hide more than sight, like Haki

On 1,
We havent seen a trait yet where masking of presence to Haki is possible, i doubt this would be the case.

On 2,
Like Brook's case, he learned the real abilities of his DF after time skip. I think Absolem had the same. It is possible Absolem had the same, or his DF always did that...

 

[dikwetz]

Re: Absolem's real DF abilities

Wasn't Rocinante able to do the same when he was hiding Law from Dofla?

 

[Holt]

The way I see it, CoO has to be activated or atleast initiated in some way. Or on the other hand, the user shouldn't be distracted or the person hiding isn't making much movements. Caribou for instance, managed to get in and move for a while before Luffy and Co sensed him. Perhaps if he stayed put, they wouldn't have discovered since they weren't even looking for him in the first place.
For example, if something is completely stationary and hidden, you probably wouldn't be able to see it with your peripheral vision, but if its moving, its more likely to catch your attention.
I think this was how Absa got info without being caught even though atleast one of the SN's must have had CoO.
I don't think DD has kenbushoku though or atleast he hasn't been stated to.

 

[hokageji]

Wasn't Rocinante able to do the same when he was hiding Law from Dofla?

Rociante's ability allowed him to mask sounds within a periphery. What he kept hidden is that he had a DF ability.

The way I see it, CoO has to be activated or atleast initiated in some way. Or on the other hand, the user shouldn't be distracted or the person hiding isn't making much movements. Caribou for instance, managed to get in and move for a while before Luffy and Co sensed him. Perhaps if he stayed put, they wouldn't have discovered since they weren't even looking for him in the first place.
For example, if something is completely stationary and hidden, you probably wouldn't be able to see it with your peripheral vision, but if its moving, its more likely to catch your attention.
I think this was how Absa got info without being caught even though atleast one of the SN's must have had CoO.
I don't think DD has kenbushoku though or atleast he hasn't been stated to.

Not really, Rayleigh was standing still observing Luffy while he sensed his presence but maybe there is more to stay still, like hold your breath or something...

Yes, DD hasn't been stated to have it so far, but it would be surprising if he didn't..

 

[Holt]

Not really, Rayleigh was standing still observing Luffy while he sensed his presence but maybe there is more to stay still, like hold your breath or something...

No I don't mean the user, I mean the person hiding. What I was saying is, assuming the user isn't searching for anyone, and whoever is hiding isn't exactly doing anything overtly noticeable like fighting or running about etc, it might be easier to remain hidden. Well, that's all I can think of anyway.

Yes, DD hasn't been stated to have it so far, but it would be surprising if he didn't..

Actually, I don't think it would be surprising. He does already have CoC and CoA. Having CoO means he would be able to predict moves as well. He's plenty powerful as it is already.

 

[hokageji]

No I don't mean the user, I mean the person hiding. What I was saying is, assuming the user isn't searching for anyone, and whoever is hiding isn't exactly doing anything overtly noticeable like fighting or running about etc, it might be easier to remain hidden. Well, that's all I can think of anyway.

Well that might be it, but in Kidd alliance scenario, I am sure they would be looking out to detect someone, it was a secret meeting of sorts...

Actually, I don't think it would be surprising. He does already have CoC and CoA. Having CoO means he would be able to predict moves as well. He's plenty powerful as it is already.

He does avoid all attacks successfully, speed is not really enough to beat him.

 

[Holt]

Well that might be it, but in Kidd alliance scenario, I am sure they would be looking out to detect someone, it was a secret meeting of sorts...



He does avoid all attacks successfully, speed is not really enough to beat him.

Yeah they might have but they probably relaxed after a while. Was it even really so secret? The alliance itself was probably supposed to be, but I there's no reason for the meeting to have been secret.

Yeah but not actually all attacks. He's a good fighter but he doesn't use CoO.

 

[hokageji]

How would you expect the alliance to be a secret without actually keeping their meet a secret.

Law already mentioned two ways to survive in the New World:
1. Side with a Yonkou
2. team up and ally to fight against one

You wouldnt want any Yonkou allies to have a word on it.

We dont know enough about CoO masking or how it is detected so i guess both of us could be right/wrong...

 

[seimei]

As far as we know, Absa only cover stories related to the supernovas and below. I assume he also have to be aware of people who can use CoO, and that people who has the ability using that is limited. Even Doffy and a Pacifista can't see it.

I believe option 1 is the most possible.

But seeing Luffy is able to insert haki to his gigantic pistol would also mean if Absa has armament haki, he might upgrade his ability.

If there is a Haki to find auras, there should be also haki to hide their auras.

 

[Fox666]

Even if he could not be found with CoO, Chopper could find him by his smell. So he would not be safe from other animals like Bepo or Pekoms.

 

[Zeta42]

CoO never works unless plot demands it.

 

[Fox666]

So it's basically like Ki in Dragon Ball.

 

[hokageji]

lol, yea... plot plot no mi in this case...

TRue, Chopper could smell him off, but he never really recognized Sogeking either??? So plot plot no mi strikes again!!

 

[BlackTriggerX]

With Observation Haki you can only sense people around you if you activate it, so you must be looking for someone in order to find otherwise if you (think you) have no reason to use it you will not know if you have soemone else close by, and i think DD has observation haki since he kinda needs to know where the people are to control them from distance like when he used birdcage and put people fighting each other and not being around.

 

[Freid]

With Observation Haki you can only sense people around you if you activate it,

I generally believe this too but Luffy, Zoro and Sanji all sensed Caribou trying to kidnap the mermaid princess while they were lounging and had no reason to have their guard up. Whitebeard's COO also seemed to be in use even while he was sleeping.

I guess this is just one of those things that Oda's gonna take some liberties with for the purpose of the story. Chopper would have been discovered if Vergo had been using his COO back in Punk Hazard, and Luffy, Viola and Kyros would never have been able to hide only a few feet away from DD if he too had his COO permanently in use.

 

[BlackTriggerX]

Caribou was probably using too much power so it was easy to detect, he was there long before that but they only sensed him when he attacked, if he stayed quiet they wouldnt detect him even if he was closer than that.