Ace's Bounty

[d3death]

Quoting from the anime.

in the episode where luffy and company's bounty becomes known world wide.

in luffy's hometown they say

Kumpai to the man with highest bounty in east blue.

does this means that his bounty is higher than that of ace?

although i seriously doubt this but still it can be implied

p.s: episode number 324
"The World-Wide Bounties! The Hometowns Dance as the Ship Sails Forward!"
"Meguru Tehaisho! Kokyō wa Odoru Fune wa Susumu!"

 

[paradoxe]

Ace may not have been from East Blue.

I don't think they're brothers in blood..maybe half brothers. Or else Ace would have the 'Monkey' surname.

 

[Akainu]

perhaps ace just doesn't have a bounty (anymore). BB didn't have one and yet was powerful, so if Ace kept quiet against WG too until he reached the new world it could be possible.

 

[AlphaXero]

but its almost impossible to assume he laid low considering Smoker knew exactly who he was. So it is very likely he has a bounty.

 

[Akainu]

like I said he could have laid low until he was in the new world.
from there on he was in WB's crew and rose to be commander of the 2nd division. that's why even smoker knew him and the only reference we have ever heard about him.
not like Luffy ... "oh you are Monkey D. Luffy? the guy destroyed Enies Lobby?" who is famous for messing with WG and marines.

 

[Razh]

Ace may not have been from East Blue.

I don't think they're brothers in blood..maybe half brothers. Or else Ace would have the 'Monkey' surname.

They grew up together. In East Blue.

And about the Monkey surname. How do you know Ace would have it? How do you know it's really a surname at all? You're just guessing.

Yeah, maybe Ace just didn't make any real mess before he got to WB. Maybe WB picked him up outside of New World. Who's to say that he was sitting there all the time? If Shanks could travel around so could he.

But it's still fishy. Especially since BB became Shichibukai just by beating Ace. Someone that notorious and bounty under 300 mil?

 

[GeckoMoria]

maybe ace had a 299 million bounty :P

 

[Yans86]

BB wanted become Shichi by beating Luffy when he was worth 100mil.....after EL Luffy raised to 300mil,BB was almost after him when he met Ace that for sure has a big bounty...
Even Rayleigh said that he has a wanted picture,which means with a bounty........Luffy and the others SN are just rookie and they r worth 300mil......a Tenryubiito could by a mermaid for 500mil like nothing.......DoFlamingo was the auctioner and I think that with all the business he had,he had billion of money.........so for me,Ace can easily be worth around 600-700 mil!!!!

 

[Razh]

BB wanted become Shichi by beating Luffy when he was worth 100mil.....

Well, I don't think BB was relying only on Luffy. I think he said he wanted to hunt pirates with more than 100 mil. And Luffy was the first he met.

 

[Ichibugen]

Id say around the 400-500 Million range wouldnt be to much of a stretch to assume. The OP does make a good point though, I could very well be wrong...

 

[Networks]

Probably, Ace's Bounty is/was bigger than ruffy.

Rockstar isn't the 'vice-captain' and his bounty is 94 millions

 

[bittman]

Actually the East Blue'ers never talk about Ace like he also lived with them. Though they are brothers, and we know Luffy never left the island until he was a pirate, this doesn't mean Ace was indeed an East Blue local.

Of course, it could just be a stuff up by Oda.

And by the way, if Ace has a bounty of 100mil+, as one of the four division captains of another pirate captain that speaks volumes in itself about the power of Whitebeard's crew.

 

[Akainu]

it's 16 divisions, but you're right it speaks volumes about the power of the WB pirates that Ace commands (or commanded?) the 2nd division.
I also agree with anyone saying we know too little about Ace and how he left etc., but since he got so strong and only left 3 years before Luffy, he too should have been a pirate from the start.

 

[kkck]

Ace has gone to the highest position he can get in WB crew right now (assuming that all division captains have the same authority) and he has insane powers. It was said that before he left his hometown luffy was never able to defeat him so even without his fruit he is very strong, or at least stronger than any ordinary human. I would say he is at least worth 500 million berries.

 

[BlackHair]

I believe in the Manga it was never said that he posses a bounty. So I guess his bounty is 0 Berry. He is WB pirates 2nd division commander, that's why he is famous. Since some1 who is commanding a division of WB has to be strong, the WG acknowledged BBs strength by beating him. He may be worth 500M or more, but he probably isn't, like Enel.

 

[Razh]

If I'm not mistaken (I could be); it was never said that WB has a bounty, it was never said that Dragon has a bounty, it was never said that Shanks or Mihawk had bounties either, and finally I think it was never said that Roger had a bounty. (Anybody correct me if I'm wrong, with a link to the page please.)
Are we supposed to think that neither of them had a bounty because it wasn't clearly stated that they had?

Blackbeard's bounty is a direct result of him keeping himself in the dark from Marines and WG. Somebody like Ace who is among the top ranking officers of Whitebeard and is known all over the world as such, gets a bounty by default.
One more thing. If he doesn't have bounty, that means he has done nothing wrong against WG or Marines, or civilians.
If that's the case, than WG wouldn't have any reason or any right to keep him in jail. Yet, he is in jail right now.
Go figure.

 

[sharingan_kakashi]

I believe he is in Jail because he is a pirate. A famous pirate at that.
We don't even know where he got his DF. If it was a gift from WB (when he became division capt?) then he didnt have it before reaching the NW. Which would be one reason why he has a low bounty.

Guesstimate of Ace's current bounty is 475 M (based on power & strength)

 

[BlackHair]

[..] Are we supposed to think that neither of them had a bounty because it wasn't clearly stated that they had?

There is a difference between them and Ace. We don't have informations on him like we do with the guys u mentioned, beside Mihawk.

• WB and Shanks are reigning the latter half of the grand line like emperors, through a big crew (influence and power). These ppl are are "about" 50% of the Yonkou, which power is equal to the Marine HQ and part of the triangle balance. Since they are obviously working against the WG I believe the leaders of each group must have high bounties.
• Roger was called by the folk as the pirate king. The WG probably considered this as a threat. Even those ppl who helped him where punished (Tom) and his first-mate Rayleigh who was under Rogers command is carrying a bounty. In his case, I believe he had a bounty as well.
• Dragon is a clear enemy of the WG (1,2) and he carries the title worst criminal. It is safe to assume in his case, that he carries the highest bounty.
• Mihawk as a Shichi should have sth on him to let him intimidate other pirates. He is carrying the title strongest swordsman and that is enogh to intimidate others, so I believe there is a good chance that he never had a bounty. We also don't know his past, beside he was fighting Shanks (I guess ex-crewmember of WB)

Now for Ace, we don't know anything what he did in the past unlike the guys (beside Mihawk) mentioned above. All we know is that he is a pirate and a member of WBs crew. None of those is reasons are enough to put a bounty on his head. Back then in Alabasta, Smoker didn't mentioned anything like"wanted pirate" or sth. He wanted to arrest him just because he was a pirate.

We know he and Luffy grew up together like siblings (Im saying "like" cause I don't believe they are blood related, but that don't belongs in this tread) and must have lived at the same village. Still the villager called Luffy the most successful pirate from the east with a 300M head, even though Ace has a high position in probably the strongest pirate crew.

I know he could have still a bounty under 300M, but if we combine that with Smokers small-talk and with the fact, that we don't know his actions in the grand line, I get the feeling he had no bounty at all or max 299.999.999 xD

One more thing. If he doesn't have bounty, that means he has done nothing wrong against WG or Marines, or civilians. If that's the case, than WG wouldn't have any reason or any right to keep him in jail. Yet, he is in jail right now.

That should be reason enough.

 

[kkck]

I dont think WB is working againts the WG, or at least wasnt until they capture ace. If they were working againts the WG or with any other political group, they wouldnt be pirates, they would be terrorists, military faction or an army.
I always thought garp meant that the 4 emperors were emperors because they could do anything they wanted and no one or very few had the power to control them, not because they are actual emperors with empires, lands or any (voluntary) political influence.

 

[BlackHair]

I dont think WB is working againts the WG, or at least wasnt until they capture ace. If they were working againts the WG or with any other political group, they wouldnt be pirates, they would be terrorists, military faction or an army.

By "working against" I was just saying they are enemies, but you are right, that's the wrong definition to describe it.

Im not sure if u were trying to say by "until they captured Ace" that they never fought against. If yes then its probably wrong. Garp said the Yonkou are equal to the Marine HQ and Shichi. To determine that statement, they must have fought at one time.

I always thought garp meant that the 4 emperors were emperors because they could do anything they wanted and no one or very few had the power to control them, not because they are actual emperors with empires, lands or any (voluntary) political influence.

Garp used the word "reign". You must have a territory to reign over and a crew/army to back u up. Through a big crew and fame u can get influence, similar to Crocodiles Baroque organisation or Flamingos business.

Of course that's only how I see the situation, not like it is a clear fact. Now rereading my own post it sounded that way, but wasn't my intention.