Spoiler Akatsuki no Yona Spoiler & Chapter Discussion

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Im isolating this to the fire tribe. You would think that sujins failed rebellion has made them (fire tribe soldiers and citizens) see through their delusion but in the recent chapters thats not the case. The fire tribe is still singing hiryuus praises, probably gonna escalate. Tribe mentality at its finest and kyoga is not immune to it.
Kyoga is still skeptical about the power of the 4 dragons going as far as calling it fake (chap 159). But that’ll come around seeing that a 2nd wave of attack is still to come and gobis men are in the fire tribe.

And yes... im a gore fan. I wanna see zeno chopped and beheaded. :smile-big
Kyoga is also the leader of his tribe. I think it would be really not a responsible deed if he merely followed her due to the reason that she is the "reincarnation" of Hiryuu. The previous chapters made me think so that he is luckily not as easily to persuade than his brother and would need real evidence that following Yona would be better.

Kyoga would betray the king the same way like his father betrayed him. A coup against the king is a serious crime and Soo Won already spared his family once.

No. I don t think that he will just easily follow a 16 year old girl without a proper plan if he knows that he could lose everything if he made the wrong choice.
 

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Kyoga is also the leader of his tribe. I think it would be really not a responsible deed if he merely followed her due to the reason that she is the "reincarnation" of Hiryuu. The previous chapters made me think so that he is luckily not as easily to persuade than his brother and would need real evidence that following Yona would be better..

Kyoga would betray the king the same way like his father betrayed him. A coup against the king is a serious crime and Soo Won already spared his family once..
And ur assuming that yona is gonna lead kyoga to another rebellion which i think is very unlikely.

Actually, kyoga staying by sooowons side isnt a problem. I actually wanna see if his men will obey him when he gives the order to capture yona after witnessing zenos power or that dragons shield in full display for him and his soldiers to see. That’ll be interesting. It wouldnt be the first time the fire tribe disobeyed orders, he'll be a sujin 2.0 if that happens.
 
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Honestly, what will one leader do against a whole tribe? Even if Kyoga doesn't want to "follow" Yona per say his whole tribe has gone mad after Yona.

Yona will need to deal with this somehow. And Kyoga will need to smartly deal with it too if he wants the tribe on his side.
 

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Honestly, what will one leader do against a whole tribe? Even if Kyoga doesn't want to "follow" Yona per say his whole tribe has gone mad after Yona.

Yona will need to deal with this somehow. And Kyoga will need to smartly deal with it too if he wants the tribe on his side.
Agreed. Im only after addressing the hiryuu/yona existential question which will drive the plot forward. This shouldnt be glossed over anymore. The author should introduce it now rather than risk dumping it as info in the conclusion later. The yona following has to be big or problematic enough that can stop her in the tracks and ask herself the big questions, what does she want or what did hiryuu really want in coming here? Seeing that the people will probably bring up the throne issue or whatever.
 

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Agreed. Im only after addressing the hiryuu/yona existential question which will drive the plot forward. This shouldnt be glossed over anymore. The author should introduce it now rather than risk dumping it as info in the conclusion later. The yona following has to be big or problematic enough that can stop her in the tracks and ask herself the big questions, what does she want or what did hiryuu really want in coming here? Seeing that the people will probably bring up the throne issue or whatever.
The question would be interesting even for the real Hiryuu. Why did he come her? What made him think that him meddling with human affairs was beneficial for them?
How did he chose the "right people" and who were the "wrong people"?
 

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The question would be interesting even for the real Hiryuu. Why did he come her? What made him think that him meddling with human affairs was beneficial for them?
How did he chose the "right people" and who were the "wrong people"?
Meeting ur past life is so avatar-ish i’m not even sure if the author will consider it this far in the story. But we can be hopeful.
 

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Meeting ur past life is so avatar-ish i’m not even sure if the author will consider it this far in the story. But we can be hopeful.
I don t think that they will meet Hiryuu again, but the reason why Hiryuu could have descended to earth could be explored. We most likely won t see the murder of Yu hon with Yona s eyes by traveling to the past. The information might be handed to us by other sources.
 

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I don t think that they will meet Hiryuu again, but the reason why Hiryuu could have descended to earth could be explored. We most likely won t see the murder of Yu hon with Yona s eyes by traveling to the past. The information might be handed to us by other sources.
I’ve already given up on zeno, useless, wont talk. Im thinking more on the lines of meeting hiryuu in dreamstate and directly asking him, not really too keen on the time travelling.
As for the yuhon subject, i hope keishuk talks since hes associated with him. I’m lumping soowon with zeno, useless, wont talk.
 

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I’ve already given up on zeno, useless, wont talk. Im thinking more on the lines of meeting hiryuu in dreamstate and directly asking him, not really too keen on the time travelling.
As for the yuhon subject, i hope keishuk talks since hes associated with him. I’m lumping soowon with zeno, useless, wont talk.
I think that Soo Won is pretty talkative if he gets the chance...at least he tried to tell his reasons to Yona when the coup happened. So it could be that he would talk...I think that Zeno will talk just that he is going to chose the right time for that.

The dreamstate might be a good idea!
 

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I think that Soo Won is pretty talkative if he gets the chance...at least he tried to tell his reasons to Yona when the coup happened. So it could be that he would talk...I think that Zeno will talk just that he is going to chose the right time for that.

The dreamstate might be a good idea!
I hope these two do talk soon since the ending is pretty near. Speaking of endings, i read the fanbook gets released this autumn. I heard when those roll out, the end is apparent.
 

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but personally I think something has to happen to soowon physically in order for the issue to brought up. for example he is the human recarnation of king hiryuu...but someone needs to attack him first
 

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I truly believe Zeno is withholding info for Yona's benefit.

Maybe it has something to with Il being a bad guy, or about how Hiryu was unhappy.

It might alter Yona's current path and he wants her to choose her own path.

He might reveal it later though, when it absolutely cannot be hidden anymore. And for plot reveal purposes.
 

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Yeah...I think that Zeno might consider his actions to be necessary. Still I believe he is unsure if he can trust his own estimation and memories.
 

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I truly believe Zeno is withholding info for Yona's benefit.

Maybe it has something to with Il being a bad guy, or about how Hiryu was unhappy.

It might alter Yona's current path and he wants her to choose her own path.

He might reveal it later though, when it absolutely cannot be hidden anymore. And for plot reveal purposes.
HE KNOWS SOMETHING, EVEN WITH SOOWONS IDENTITY....HE KNOWS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN. I ALWAYS WONDERED WHO SHOT THE ARROW THAT ALLOWED HAK AND YONA TO ESCAPE THE NIGHT OF THE ASSASSINATION
 

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HE KNOWS SOMETHING, EVEN WITH SOOWONS IDENTITY....HE KNOWS WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN. I ALWAYS WONDERED WHO SHOT THE ARROW THAT ALLOWED HAK AND YONA TO ESCAPE THE NIGHT OF THE ASSASSINATION
It could have been Zeno, never thought of it that way actually but it makes perfect sense!
 

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It could have been Zeno, never thought of it that way actually but it makes perfect sense!
Wasn't it basically confirmed that it was Min-su? Unless I'm misremembering something.
 
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