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There seems to be a predisposition to spreading the blame around for basically anything and everything that happens, especially when it involves controversial and sensitive characters and topics. And I think that's just silly to do since it undermines the ability to actually resolve a point of discussion and conflict.
Point in case, Hakuryuu. Some people seem to think that Alibaba and Aladdin were actually wrong to confront him. That the result was as much their fault as it was the edgelords' and that's completely bogus and ignores basically everything at lead up to the final outcome. People are only looking at the result and casting blame on all involved, content to call it mere tragedy or even worse, absolve the antagonists of their misdeeds!
I'm going to try and go over what actually went down and frame it objectively. Meaning nothing but the TRUTH, no matter who it hurts, because that's what objectivity is. Objectivity doesn't care about people's feelings or beliefs. It runs them down like a dog and tears them to shreds.
So starting out Alibaba decides to meet with Hakuryuu, going over Kouen's head to do so. He points out that who is the Emperor of Kou is up in the air and as such who actually owns Balbaad. He does not know at this point that Hakuryuu has effectively declared war on Kouen and his followers, since he's been out of the loop for a week traveling from the Summit to Kou's capital city. He only knows that he's killed Gyokuen and not exactly how he went about it. He doesn't know the political reality of the situation. For all he knows, the troops that helped him with the coup were actually loyal to him.
His reasons for doing so are obvious. At this point, it makes no sense to be loyal to Kouen when his supposed friend is going to become Kouen's boss. Even though the offer was good, Kouen's never done Alibaba any favors and isn't exactly the friendliest type.
And again, while he doesn't know what exactly is going on, he knows it's the kind of situation that might lead to a war, which would involve Balbaad. He's chosen to try and head off a civil war and from his point of view, he might think he has reason to believe that Hakuryuu would listen to him more than Kouen would, never mind that again the actual ruler of Balbaad is up in the air.
Hind sight is 20/20 and Hakuryuu's fall into depravity was while a real possibility, even highly probable and predictable, it wasn't something they could have been aware of ahead of time. Finding out what happened was all part of his journey to meet Hakuryuu.
Now, Alibaba saying that the Alma Toran story would somehow make it all better was completely stupid. That the story had no clear moral and was practically a fairy tale compared to the reality he was facing just made his seemingly firm belief that it would matter at all to anyone was really facepalm inducing, but it was really only part of his strategy and reasoning for his meeting with Hakuryuu.
Summed up, Alibaba only wanted to talk with Hakuryuu and hopefully avoid a civil war. He had no reason to believe that Hakuryuu wouldn't listen to him, let alone attack him.
Now let's talk about Hakuryuu...well, what's there to say? He tried to brainwash and kill a guy that considered him a friend. Alibaba didn't do anything wrong during that conversation other than TRY TO REASON WITH HIM. Pointing out that Hakuryuu may, in fact, have to fight his sister while treading the path he was on was NOT a bad thing. What Alibaba did amounted to telling someone that they were about to walk off a cliff. What Hakuryuu was saying made no sense to Alibaba because Hakuryuu was spouting nonsense that would only lead to people being killed for practically no reason whatsoever!
Alibaba tried to reason with a madman, who he didn't realize was insane before it was too late. If what Alibaba did was wrong, it would have had to have been based on what he knew of Hakuryuu ahead of time.
And even so, Alibaba was afraid that Hakuryuu might have actually changed since they last met. He expressed worry and relief at the start of their conversation when he used Hakuryuu's growth spurt as an ice breaker.
Now for Hakuryuu, all you have to do is consider the hypocritical and contradictory mess of things he says and does. His supposed ideal is one that basically gives him a license to kill anyone that he wants for any reason, truthful or otherwise. He has no reason to fight Kouen, just as he had no reason to fight Alibaba, but he sure as heck finds reasons to.
Hakuryuu tells lies and distortions, and it's incredible how blatant he does so. It's clear that he's not someone that is interested in truth and justice, doubly so when they're an obstacle to whatever he wants. Graciously extending this attitude towards the rest of the world in a take it or leave it manner doesn't validate what he believes. Being okay with his personal destruction and the destruction of the world as long as he's satisfied is pure evil.
Point in case, Hakuryuu. Some people seem to think that Alibaba and Aladdin were actually wrong to confront him. That the result was as much their fault as it was the edgelords' and that's completely bogus and ignores basically everything at lead up to the final outcome. People are only looking at the result and casting blame on all involved, content to call it mere tragedy or even worse, absolve the antagonists of their misdeeds!
I'm going to try and go over what actually went down and frame it objectively. Meaning nothing but the TRUTH, no matter who it hurts, because that's what objectivity is. Objectivity doesn't care about people's feelings or beliefs. It runs them down like a dog and tears them to shreds.
So starting out Alibaba decides to meet with Hakuryuu, going over Kouen's head to do so. He points out that who is the Emperor of Kou is up in the air and as such who actually owns Balbaad. He does not know at this point that Hakuryuu has effectively declared war on Kouen and his followers, since he's been out of the loop for a week traveling from the Summit to Kou's capital city. He only knows that he's killed Gyokuen and not exactly how he went about it. He doesn't know the political reality of the situation. For all he knows, the troops that helped him with the coup were actually loyal to him.
His reasons for doing so are obvious. At this point, it makes no sense to be loyal to Kouen when his supposed friend is going to become Kouen's boss. Even though the offer was good, Kouen's never done Alibaba any favors and isn't exactly the friendliest type.
And again, while he doesn't know what exactly is going on, he knows it's the kind of situation that might lead to a war, which would involve Balbaad. He's chosen to try and head off a civil war and from his point of view, he might think he has reason to believe that Hakuryuu would listen to him more than Kouen would, never mind that again the actual ruler of Balbaad is up in the air.
Hind sight is 20/20 and Hakuryuu's fall into depravity was while a real possibility, even highly probable and predictable, it wasn't something they could have been aware of ahead of time. Finding out what happened was all part of his journey to meet Hakuryuu.
Now, Alibaba saying that the Alma Toran story would somehow make it all better was completely stupid. That the story had no clear moral and was practically a fairy tale compared to the reality he was facing just made his seemingly firm belief that it would matter at all to anyone was really facepalm inducing, but it was really only part of his strategy and reasoning for his meeting with Hakuryuu.
Summed up, Alibaba only wanted to talk with Hakuryuu and hopefully avoid a civil war. He had no reason to believe that Hakuryuu wouldn't listen to him, let alone attack him.
Now let's talk about Hakuryuu...well, what's there to say? He tried to brainwash and kill a guy that considered him a friend. Alibaba didn't do anything wrong during that conversation other than TRY TO REASON WITH HIM. Pointing out that Hakuryuu may, in fact, have to fight his sister while treading the path he was on was NOT a bad thing. What Alibaba did amounted to telling someone that they were about to walk off a cliff. What Hakuryuu was saying made no sense to Alibaba because Hakuryuu was spouting nonsense that would only lead to people being killed for practically no reason whatsoever!
Alibaba tried to reason with a madman, who he didn't realize was insane before it was too late. If what Alibaba did was wrong, it would have had to have been based on what he knew of Hakuryuu ahead of time.
And even so, Alibaba was afraid that Hakuryuu might have actually changed since they last met. He expressed worry and relief at the start of their conversation when he used Hakuryuu's growth spurt as an ice breaker.
Now for Hakuryuu, all you have to do is consider the hypocritical and contradictory mess of things he says and does. His supposed ideal is one that basically gives him a license to kill anyone that he wants for any reason, truthful or otherwise. He has no reason to fight Kouen, just as he had no reason to fight Alibaba, but he sure as heck finds reasons to.
Hakuryuu tells lies and distortions, and it's incredible how blatant he does so. It's clear that he's not someone that is interested in truth and justice, doubly so when they're an obstacle to whatever he wants. Graciously extending this attitude towards the rest of the world in a take it or leave it manner doesn't validate what he believes. Being okay with his personal destruction and the destruction of the world as long as he's satisfied is pure evil.
