It's a fair point that Acnologia was fighting seriously, I forgot. I just think it's not really factual to say he'll take them out with one roar. I'm still not too sure on that theory on "people being stronger than Dimaria means they can bypass Age Seal" for all we know that was just because END is END, you know Zeref's strongest Etherious. Not hard to believe he can bypass cause he can bypass. Brandish could still reduce Igneel's fire and/or Irene can combat it. An enlarged enchanted Brandish can at least---at least---physically match up Igneel. This is all not even factoring Dragon Irene, which we have seen feats on her. Destroyed a whole kingdom.
Why wouldn't Igneel's roar take them out? Igneel's roar is on the same scale as the finisher he used against Zeref, which should take down any of the Spriggan 12. So what if END is Zeref's strongest etherious? Igneel was king of the fire dragons.
Brandish's wasn't able to affect Neinhart, or stop his winds from cutting her up. Hard to believe she'll do a better job of defending against Igneel's roar. I don't see why an enchanted Brandish would even be close to Igneel in terms of physical power. It's likely that even Grandeeney-enchanted Metalicana would have been weaker than Igneel.
Why wouldn't Igneel's roar take them out? Igneel's roar is on the same scale as the finisher he used against Zeref, which should take down any of the Spriggan 12.
Yeah I'm not disagreeing that a single roar can KO one 12 easily.. but they're all working together, I don't see that happening fam if all 3 of them are in unison. It's fine to say low diff but I just can't say stomp.
He surpasses the power of Gods ( Age Seal ) I doubt that Chronos was even involved there.
And END was able to walk in Age Seal mainly because he was designed to surpass the power and rules make by God ( His main goal is to end Zeref life and in order that he also need to surpass the Curse that Zeref received from Gods )..
He surpasses the power of Gods ( Age Seal ) I doubt that Chronos was even involved there.
And END was able to walk in Age Seal mainly because he was designed to surpass the power and rules make by God ( His main goal is to end Zeref life and in order that he also need to surpass the Curse that Zeref received from Gods )..
Well regarding the discussion.Dimaria was surprised that someone was able to move inside Age Seal and then she added "You are telling me his power surpasses that of Gods".And the only God that is connected with Dimaria is Chronos.
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Now why did Dimaria say that his power surpasses that of gods after seeing him move inside Age Seal.So it's natural to say surpassing Gods(Chronos) is one of the ways to resist Age Seal.
I'm not following the Age Seal discussion, but what will it do?
At best DiMaria and Brandish can run away. Or maybe Irene can go dragon and spam. But DiMaria is the only person who moves in her seal, well she's never moved anyone else (only Ultear has). Age Scratch is useless if Igneel is sealed in time (how is he supposed to experience pain when time doesn't pass). Those lasers or any sword she has won't even scratch. She might as well throw water baloons. DiMaria uses Age Seal to run for her life.
Irene dragonising is the only chance to prevent a clear stomp.
What has Igneel ever done to get this much praise? The only feat he has ACTUALLY shown us are some slightly improved basic Fire Dragon Slayer spells. He damaged Acnologia, so what? If he can do that with just some ordinary punches, why can't Irene with her atmospherical enchantments that are obviously superior when it comes to attack potency? Not to forget that it's not just Irene, but the three strongest female mages fighting a rather featless dragon.
I mean come on, think logically. Brandish can reduce all of his attacks with Command T: Reduction and make his offense rather useless. Dimaria can use Age Scratch to make him feel all the pain that Acnologia caused, like hell he ain't gonna take that. And well, Irene can just nuke him all the way around. Heck, because Igneel is a dragon doesn't say he is directly on top of the power rankings.
What has Igneel ever done to get this much praise? The only feat he has ACTUALLY shown us are some slightly improved basic Fire Dragon Slayer spells. He damaged Acnologia, so what? If he can do that with just some ordinary punches, why can't Irene with her atmospherical enchantments that are obviously superior when it comes to attack potency? Not to forget that it's not just Irene, but the three strongest female mages fighting a rather featless dragon.
I mean come on, think logically. Brandish can reduce all of his attacks with Command T: Reduction and make his offense rather useless. Dimaria can use Age Scratch to make him feel all the pain that Acnologia caused, like hell he ain't gonna take that. And well, Irene can just nuke him all the way around. Heck, because Igneel is a dragon doesn't say he is directly on top of the power rankings.
Bruh Igneel didn't just damage Acnologia, he ripped off an entire arm while half dead. A full powered Igneel would have come really close to winning. Unless you're telling me that Irene + Dimaria + Brandish on their own could come close to beating to Acnologia despite Zeref needing Fairy Heart + all of the Spriggan 12 to even stand a chance, Igneel stomps and he stomps hard.
What has Igneel ever done to get this much praise? The only feat he has ACTUALLY shown us are some slightly improved basic Fire Dragon Slayer spells. He damaged Acnologia, so what? If he can do that with just some ordinary punches, why can't Irene with her atmospherical enchantments that are obviously superior when it comes to attack potency? Not to forget that it's not just Irene, but the three strongest female mages fighting a rather featless dragon.
I mean come on, think logically. Brandish can reduce all of his attacks with Command T: Reduction and make his offense rather useless. Dimaria can use Age Scratch to make him feel all the pain that Acnologia caused, like hell he ain't gonna take that. And well, Irene can just nuke him all the way around. Heck, because Igneel is a dragon doesn't say he is directly on top of the power rankings.
Irene never so much as scratched Acnologia. He was completely unwounded following her atmospheric enchantment.
Even if pushing back Acnologia is your measurement of what is impressive, then Igneel's roar trumps Irene's atmospheric enchantment in every way. Igneel's roar knocked Acnologia down from the sky. It has large larger AoE, and was used against Acnologia's dragon form. Irene's enchantment was used against a human Acnologia, who didn't even have both arms.
On top of that, Igneel can actually make Acnologia bleed. Even disregarding the fact that he can bite Acnologia's arm off, Acnologia was covered in scratches and coughing up blood when Igneel threw him to the ground. Not to mention, all of Igneel-powered Natsu's feats were done using Igneel's magical power. This includes his ability to incinerate Zeref's black magic. I fail to see how you can say Igneel is feat-less. Don't even get me started on his anime feats, in which his punch can match Acnologia's roar.
Brandish's magic didn't work against Neinhart, nor do much to defend against his winds. There's no reason it would work against Igneel. Even if it does work against Igneel's attacks, all Igneel would have to do is tail whip her to stun her (something that he can pull off even against Acnologia), and then roar. If worse comes to worse, Igneel just bites off Brandish' arm. I really doubt it would even come to that though.
Age Scratch has only ever been shown to come into effect after someone touches Dimaria. In both instances that it was used against Wendy, there was a brief pause between when Wendy made contact and when the pain came into effect. Obviously, Dimaria needs to be able to tank the attack in order for age scratch to come into effect. Dimaria is not taking a bite from Igneel, assuming that Igneel would even need to resort to anything other than a roar.
Is it really being discussed whether or not Base Natsu was the one that beat Dimaria? Lmao, we've already seen that base Natsu can't break out of magic sealing cuffs. For him to even get to Dimaria he would have had to break out of the cuffs he and Lucy were placed in which can only be done by someone who doesn't have magic (like END).
He fought on par with and ripped off the arm of the guy that Zeref still is weary of despite having 12 super powered mages and over 1 million soldiers.
The only feat he has ACTUALLY shown us are some slightly improved basic Fire Dragon Slayer spells. He damaged Acnologia, so what? If he can do that with just some ordinary punches, why can't Irene with her atmospherical enchantments that are obviously superior when it comes to attack potency? Not to forget that it's not just Irene, but the three strongest female mages fighting a rather featless dragon.
Irene's enchantments stronger than Igneel's attacks? You mean the ones that pushed human Acno a little without even injuring him? You mean the ones that aren't doing jack to Wendy/Erza? Those are more powerful than attacks that can heavily damage Acnologia?? Peggy, it's time to stop.
I mean come on, think logically. Brandish can reduce all of his attacks with Command T: Reduction and make his offense rather useless. Dimaria can use Age Scratch to make him feel all the pain that Acnologia caused, like hell he ain't gonna take that. And well, Irene can just nuke him all the way around. Heck, because Igneel is a dragon doesn't say he is directly on top of the power rankings.
-You tell us to "think logically" but then go on to say that Brandish's magic (the same magic that couldn't work on Neinheart ffs) would work on Igneel's magic... Tf?
-Irene hasn't shown any nuke that could even scratch Igneel.
-Age scratch won't make Igneel feel the pain he felt against Acno because he died right after the Acno fight. Igneel never get resurrected after that fight so the only way he would be able to face these girls would be before the Acno fight. Also, Age scratch might not even work on Igneel given that he's a dragon.
Igneel being a dragon doesn't put him at the top of power rankings, it's his feats against Acnologia, the strongest character in FT, that do. Igneel and Acno are in a league of their own.
What has Igneel ever done to get this much praise? The only feat he has ACTUALLY shown us are some slightly improved basic Fire Dragon Slayer spells. He damaged Acnologia, so what? If he can do that with just some ordinary punches, why can't Irene with her atmospherical enchantments that are obviously superior when it comes to attack potency? Not to forget that it's not just Irene, but the three strongest female mages fighting a rather featless dragon.
I mean come on, think logically. Brandish can reduce all of his attacks with Command T: Reduction and make his offense rather useless. Dimaria can use Age Scratch to make him feel all the pain that Acnologia caused, like hell he ain't gonna take that. And well, Irene can just nuke him all the way around. Heck, because Igneel is a dragon doesn't say he is directly on top of the power rankings.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Yeah, Igneel has only ever fought toe to toe with the strongest person in the series, you know the same person that requires Zeref, his Spriggan plus a source of infinite Magic power just to put up a good fight......But yeah ripping that guy's arm off is no big deal *rolls eyes*
IRENE's ENCHAMANTS ARE NOWHERE NEAR IGNEEL's strikes in terms of attack potency....nowhere near. You say Igneel is featless yet we've seen him in a full on fight where he went all out.
Igneel isn't at the top because he's a dragon, he's ranked highly because of his performance against Acno, there's a reason why barely anyone puts the other parent dragons on his level.
Irene didn't have a chance to fight Acnologia because he was merely toying with her since he didn't consider her a threat, but rather a distraction. Also Irene admitted she - or anyone - wouldn't be able to defeat him and that only Zeref with Fairry Heart might have a chance.
The reason why their "fight" was interrupted was because Irene planned to run from the fight, not by running away herself but by casting U1. hat proves that from the very start she knew she wouldn' be able to win at all and had to ressort to that.
In a real fight Acno would have ripped her apart just like he did God Serena, or would have used his dragon form which iss farm deadlier than his human form.
Igneel is the second strongest character in the series. Igneel didn't just fight Acnologia, he permanently disabled him. Acnologia has slayed hundreds of dragons. None of them damaged Acnologia to the extent Igneel did.
Irene had her chance to fight against Acnologia. A one handed, human Acnologia. She chose to not fight to the death with him, and instead opted to buy time so that Zeref can obtain an infinite source of magical power to fight on her behalf. She still didn't display AoE as impressive as Igneel's or even manage to lay a scratch on him. Let's also look at Irene's other feats, why don't we? Irene's fireball enchantment was blocked by Wendy. She was also fairly damaged by both Erza and Wendy. Igneel is dead in this arc, and still his power is capable of killing Zeref. This was whatever power was left over from his corpse, which would have been after he fought Acnologia. Not to mention Natsu doesn't have all the physical benefits of being a dragon.
Enchanced Brandish and Dimaria. Brandish pins Igneel down for at least the same amount of time as Makarov did Acnologia, but it will mostly likely be longer cause Igneel < Acnologia; Makarov <<<<< Enchanced Brandish. Dimaria and Irene combo attack him in Chronos and Irene making explosions and fireballs. Still think it would be a stomp after all of this? Lol
Enchanced Brandish and Dimaria. Brandish pins Igneel down for at least the same amount of time as Makarov did Acnologia, but it will mostly likely be longer cause Igneel < Acnologia; Makarov <<<<< Enchanced Brandish. Dimaria and Irene combo attack him in Chronos and Irene making explosions and fireballs. Still think it would be a stomp after all of this? Lol
I highly doubt Brandish can do that. Acnologia was only held down by makarov because he was playing around. Igneel has never shown to play around with his opponents. Even if she can, what good will Dimaria (even if enchanted) and Irene's attacks do? Igneel took attacks from Acnologia without a scratch initially and each of Acnologia's attacks are capable of one shotting both Dimaria and Brandish and at the least heavily wounding Irene.
Enchanced Brandish and Dimaria. Brandish pins Igneel down for at least the same amount of time as Makarov did Acnologia, but it will mostly likely be longer cause Igneel < Acnologia; Makarov <<<<< Enchanced Brandish. Dimaria and Irene combo attack him in Chronos and Irene making explosions and fireballs. Still think it would be a stomp after all of this? Lol
Makarov never pinned down Acnologia. Makarov wrestled with Acnologia, and then lost. In fact, Makarov was the one that got pinned down. The most you can say about Brandish is that she would wrestle with Igneel for a few minutes, and then get pinned down by Igneel. Also, as Atomicus mentioned, Gildarts mentioned that Acnologia was playing around on Tenrou Island and that he didn't use the same strength. When he fought Gildarts, it was over in an instant. When he fought God Serena, as a human no less, it was also over in an instant. So really, Brandish's ability to wrestle with Igneel would only be if Igneel felt like playing around.
Like I said, I doubt Igneel would need to resort to anything other than a tail whip followed up by a roar. The roar should be more than enough to take out anyone it hits, provided it's at least as strong as any of Igneel powered Natsu's attacks. Seeing as the roar is massive, it should have no problem hitting 3 people. So yes, it's still a stomp.
Enchanced Brandish and Dimaria. Brandish pins Igneel down for at least the same amount of time as Makarov did Acnologia, but it will mostly likely be longer cause Igneel < Acnologia; Makarov <<<<< Enchanced Brandish. Dimaria and Irene combo attack him in Chronos and Irene making explosions and fireballs. Still think it would be a stomp after all of this? Lol
Yes. For one Brandish isn't holding shit down. Secondly, none of Chronos attacks would even effect Igneel,and lastly Irene is too weak to do shit to Igneel. So yes....Igneel stomps, add the rest of the 12 and he still stomps.
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