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I've read the explaination. It doesn't imply what you think it does.
The Spriggans don't hang around each other in their spare time. Alvarez was the one time when Zeref summoned them all together. Her reaction suggests that anyone that surpassed the power of a god can move through stopped time.
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It very much does....like their is no other proper explanation unless you purposely misinterpret it.
Doesn't mean they haven't met or know of each other, especially Zeref their leader. The "power of god" can be interpreted in many way and considering the Q&A legit suggest that it was a power of END and not just having more MP. I can't agree with Dimeria's TS being limited like that
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Yes ENDs power surpassed that of Cronos but that doesn't means that END surpassing Cronos means that he was able to move in timestop, he gained time resistance/immunity from being END, think about it why would END have time immunity? since time stop can affect people who are stronger then you and zeref made END to kill him then he must have gave END immunity to time stop otherwise END would have been worthless and zeref wouldn't have cared about him and would have just made him a member of tartaros, not the guildmaster that everyone in tartaros worshiped so yeah END does have time stop and time stop can work on stronger people unless they have time immunity or dragon scales, also dimaria froze the whole battlefield including laxus,wall and erza who are all stronger then her, another thing proving that TS can work on people stronger oh and did i forget to mention timestop working on natsu before he transformed into END? Lmao and u cant use the argument "Natsu was struggling in pain so he couldn't stop dimaria" it wont matter because if he was able to move in time stop then he would be screaming in pain when dimaria activated it and dimaria would have stopped for a second being surprised on why he was able to move and scream when the area was time stopped, why didn't she? oh yeah its because time stop can work on people who are stronger then you.
Dragon scales have high resistance (if thats a thing) to time stop, thats how they counter it, they aren't just really "hard" if they were then why couldn't a healthy erza that was enchanted by wendy one shot human irene (who is much weaker then her dragon form) when she hit her to the face? a healthy enchanted erza is >>>>>>>>>>>a non enchanted erza that got tired from taking a beating from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza that got all of her bones (except for one of her arms) shattered by dragon irene plus was tired at the same time from fighting and taking damage from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza + a tired erza from wendy B fight + erza taking massive damage while destroyign deus sema, the same erza that one shotted dragon irene who is >>>>>>>human irene with dragon slayer magic, wanna know why? its because dragon scales aren't super "durable" they are just resistant to any magic that isn't dragon slayer magic, if they were "super durable" then A) Erza would have effortlessly one shotted irenes human form like nothing when he hit her head with it or B) erzas sword would have shattered from touching dragon irenes scales. so yeah dragon scales aren't durable they are just magic resistant lmao. tho some dragons have higher resistance to DS magic then others.
Yes irene is WAY above dimaria with or without her dragon form but that doesn't matters, irene is ranked above dimaria even by brandish and brandish knows that dimaria has time stop, so why would brandish rank irene above dimaria if she knew that dimaria had time stop? oh its simple its because irene has immunity/resistance to time stop to beat dimaria with, if she didn't then brandish would have said that dimaria was the strongest alongside august instead of irene if she didn't have immunity/resistance, and yes dimarias time stop can work on people stronger then her since i already proved this and no i changed my mind on irene being able to counter dimarias time stop because of her dragon scales because brandish didn't even know that irene was a dragon another thing proving that irene has immunity/resistance to time stop. same goes for august, august is above dimaria because he has immunity/resistance to time stop, screw what i said earlier august cant copy time stop magic if time is stopped so he would obviously need immunity/resistance to time stop to be above dimaria, other wise brandish would have said that dimaria is above both irene and august. Larcade on the other hand is debatable weather has has immunity/resistance to time stop, id say he doesn't but he should be faster then dimaria to hit her first so he would still win
Well jacob is not exactly overestimating his power, he just saw god serena die so he would obviously know that he would stand no chance against acnologia in combat i mean his combat skills are historia serena tier lol since jacob was beating up natsu the same way historia god serena did so jacob = historia god serena level in terms of combat and we all know that real god serena>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>historia god serena and jacob should be smart enough to know this so we all know for a fact that he was not gonna challenge acnologia to a fist-fist fight (especially since even zeref is scared of acnologia) and deadass got the entire empire just to try and steal fairy heart which might (key word: might) beat acnologia, so jacob for obvious reasons was gonna BFR acnologia to his dimension (just like irene) where he thought that acnologia was gonna end up dying, but of course that wasn't gonna work since he did not know that acnologia was immune to magic lol
END is immune to Cronos, Yep but not because his power surpasses Cronos but because he is made to move in time stop/be immune to it, i already explained this above so i wont be explaining it again
If acnologia could smell dragon slayers after they use there dragon slaying magic then answer me this, why didn't he smell natsu in the BOS when natsu used his dragon slaying magic on lullaby,bora,jellal or laxus??? why not him but god serena??? in fact why didn't he come to the GMG when natsu and gajeel were fighting sting and rouge using dragon slaying magic, why? oh yeah its because he couldn't just smell dragons if he could then he obviously would have rushed to the capital (if thats where the GMG took place) when 7 fucking dragons were fighting and 7 fucking dragon slayers, all 14 of them were going all fucking out in fact natsu produced more MP when fighting mother glare then he produced in tenrou island like natsu destroyed the eclipse gate which can survive the etherion canon which is continental, he was only like mountain-island level in tenrou arc yet acno was able to somehow smell him? and how was he able to smell god serena? makes no sense at all, probably just acno wondering around and seeing them i guess?
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I can understand irene removing her own scent since acno can smell dragon slayers if they aren't to far away but her not using DS magic? she literally used her abilities infront of acno (her abilities are DS magic based) so she was using them like it or not. acnologia did have trouble tracking down natsu,gajeel and wendy if he didn't then why did it take him a year to find wendy and the ROT boost to capture the other dragon slayers? why was he not able to find them when they were going all out against each other in the grand magic games? why did he not find them when they were fighting 7 other real dragons? why did he not find them when they were fighting the oracion seis? (3 dragon slayers), why did he not find them when they were fighting phanto lord? (literally 2 guilds were colliding + 2 dragon slayers were going all out lol), why did he not find them in the BOS? why did he not find gajeel, wendy, sting, rouge, cobra,l axus off screen if he had no trouble finding them? why did he have no trouble finding laxus,gajeel and natsu when all 3 of them were fighting each other in the grand magic games? oh yeah cause he had trouble finding them because he couldn't just randomly sense dragons/dragon slayers across the entire continent lol
Dunno if you forgot this scene or not but zeref literally left the book when he went to visit acnologia thats why acno didn't blast him, zeref probably knew that acno hates END and wanted to kill him thats probably the reason why he left the book and didn't bring it with him
Zeref vs Acnologia - YouTube
Even if mard geer did just found it, mard geer knew that END could kill zeref (just like how mashima somehow knows that dragon gods are equal to acno, dunno why you guys believe that but not mards statement lol). mard geer used the other demons to help him summon END so he could complete his goal, to kill zeref
Lol no what its not natsu going all out, lucy clearly gave natsu a buff by reviving him lmao otherwise how would natsu be able to beat FH zeref if his DF got no diffed? LOL
Bruh, flames of emotions/SF natsu would one shot any dragon god lmao, he just burns threw there magic and they all go bye bye also even if SF (im just gonna call him that) was weaker then dragon gods then it wont matter because natsu with SF can BURN time-space, do you think that wood can burn time-space? do you think that water can burn time-space? do you think that the moon can burn time-space? lol no, nowhere close so yeah FH zeref no diffs those 3 fake acno tiers, as for ignia he NEVER burned natsus hands, that was obviously just character design i mean if we are going by your logic then END, someone who is only base zeref tier burned his own hands casually, if we re going by your logic then Bloodlusted END>>>>>Casual END>>FP SF natsu>>>>>FH zeref?
Ignia gets murdered by FH zeref, hell he gets murdered by even base zeref lol
So by your logic, august is on the same level as neinhart now since all spriggnas are on the same level? lmao what?
END is on darkness grays level, darkness gray is on irene/august level oh wait by your logic Darkness gray is above FH zeref level since he was on par with END who casually burned his own arms
Dragon slayer resistance IS a thing, how many times do i have to explain this? dragon slayer resistance is not durability but it is just your resistance to dragon slaying magic, i already explained this above so i am not gonna write it all out twice in one post
Erza did take damage from deus sema, lol you seriously aren't trying to argue that a broken bone erza that took extra damage from wendy B can no sell deus sema are you? LMAO WHAT? we clearly saw an explosion made when deus sema shattered, erza clearly took damage from it even newborn babies knows that erza cant just no sell a meteor explosion (from irene) while having her bones being broken + tired from fighting irene all day + taking damage from wendy B. Lol are you trying to argue that erza with all those nerfs that i just listed hits harder then wendy, the same person that hurt base dimaria? lmao you cant be seriou are you?
It wasn't, the one that natsu used on jacob had island level D.C, the one that natsu used on aldoron only had mountain level D.C
Again age scratch>Max pain, age scratch can make you feel the max pain plus every other pain that you felt in your life, yeah no it has max pain beat. if you cant get higher then max pain then age scratch is basically just a one shot ability so bloodman uses max pain on aldoron when irene enchants him with DS magic and then dimaria uses age scratch = aldorons grave yard
You aren't arguing that irene can ignore the pain of acnos attacks.... are you?
Uh no the flames were ignias,igneels and atlas's they weren't natsus it was theres, the only thing is that natsu can use there flames on will now, and tbh FDK is probably only like 1% or less of igneels power since half dead igneel was damaging acnologia while FDK only did 1 damage to aldoron
Yes ENDs power surpassed that of Cronos but that doesn't means that END surpassing Cronos means that he was able to move in timestop, he gained time resistance/immunity from being END, think about it why would END have time immunity? since time stop can affect people who are stronger then you and zeref made END to kill him then he must have gave END immunity to time stop otherwise END would have been worthless and zeref wouldn't have cared about him and would have just made him a member of tartaros, not the guildmaster that everyone in tartaros worshiped so yeah END does have time stop and time stop can work on stronger people unless they have time immunity or dragon scales, also dimaria froze the whole battlefield including laxus,wall and erza who are all stronger then her, another thing proving that TS can work on people stronger oh and did i forget to mention timestop working on natsu before he transformed into END? Lmao and u cant use the argument "Natsu was struggling in pain so he couldn't stop dimaria" it wont matter because if he was able to move in time stop then he would be screaming in pain when dimaria activated it and dimaria would have stopped for a second being surprised on why he was able to move and scream when the area was time stopped, why didn't she? oh yeah its because time stop can work on people who are stronger then you.
Dragon scales have high resistance (if thats a thing) to time stop, thats how they counter it, they aren't just really "hard" if they were then why couldn't a healthy erza that was enchanted by wendy one shot human irene (who is much weaker then her dragon form) when she hit her to the face? a healthy enchanted erza is >>>>>>>>>>>a non enchanted erza that got tired from taking a beating from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza that got all of her bones (except for one of her arms) shattered by dragon irene plus was tired at the same time from fighting and taking damage from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza + a tired erza from wendy B fight + erza taking massive damage while destroyign deus sema, the same erza that one shotted dragon irene who is >>>>>>>human irene with dragon slayer magic, wanna know why? its because dragon scales aren't super "durable" they are just resistant to any magic that isn't dragon slayer magic, if they were "super durable" then A) Erza would have effortlessly one shotted irenes human form like nothing when he hit her head with it or B) erzas sword would have shattered from touching dragon irenes scales. so yeah dragon scales aren't durable they are just magic resistant lmao. tho some dragons have higher resistance to DS magic then others.
Yes irene is WAY above dimaria with or without her dragon form but that doesn't matters, irene is ranked above dimaria even by brandish and brandish knows that dimaria has time stop, so why would brandish rank irene above dimaria if she knew that dimaria had time stop? oh its simple its because irene has immunity/resistance to time stop to beat dimaria with, if she didn't then brandish would have said that dimaria was the strongest alongside august instead of irene if she didn't have immunity/resistance, and yes dimarias time stop can work on people stronger then her since i already proved this and no i changed my mind on irene being able to counter dimarias time stop because of her dragon scales because brandish didn't even know that irene was a dragon another thing proving that irene has immunity/resistance to time stop. same goes for august, august is above dimaria because he has immunity/resistance to time stop, screw what i said earlier august cant copy time stop magic if time is stopped so he would obviously need immunity/resistance to time stop to be above dimaria, other wise brandish would have said that dimaria is above both irene and august. Larcade on the other hand is debatable weather has has immunity/resistance to time stop, id say he doesn't but he should be faster then dimaria to hit her first so he would still win
Well jacob is not exactly overestimating his power, he just saw god serena die so he would obviously know that he would stand no chance against acnologia in combat i mean his combat skills are historia serena tier lol since jacob was beating up natsu the same way historia god serena did so jacob = historia god serena level in terms of combat and we all know that real god serena>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>historia god serena and jacob should be smart enough to know this so we all know for a fact that he was not gonna challenge acnologia to a fist-fist fight (especially since even zeref is scared of acnologia) and deadass got the entire empire just to try and steal fairy heart which might (key word: might) beat acnologia, so jacob for obvious reasons was gonna BFR acnologia to his dimension (just like irene) where he thought that acnologia was gonna end up dying, but of course that wasn't gonna work since he did not know that acnologia was immune to magic lol
END is immune to Cronos, Yep but not because his power surpasses Cronos but because he is made to move in time stop/be immune to it, i already explained this above so i wont be explaining it again
If acnologia could smell dragon slayers after they use there dragon slaying magic then answer me this, why didn't he smell natsu in the BOS when natsu used his dragon slaying magic on lullaby,bora,jellal or laxus??? why not him but god serena??? in fact why didn't he come to the GMG when natsu and gajeel were fighting sting and rouge using dragon slaying magic, why? oh yeah its because he couldn't just smell dragons if he could then he obviously would have rushed to the capital (if thats where the GMG took place) when 7 fucking dragons were fighting and 7 fucking dragon slayers, all 14 of them were going all fucking out in fact natsu produced more MP when fighting mother glare then he produced in tenrou island like natsu destroyed the eclipse gate which can survive the etherion canon which is continental, he was only like mountain-island level in tenrou arc yet acno was able to somehow smell him? and how was he able to smell god serena? makes no sense at all, probably just acno wondering around and seeing them i guess?
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I can understand irene removing her own scent since acno can smell dragon slayers if they aren't to far away but her not using DS magic? she literally used her abilities infront of acno (her abilities are DS magic based) so she was using them like it or not. acnologia did have trouble tracking down natsu,gajeel and wendy if he didn't then why did it take him a year to find wendy and the ROT boost to capture the other dragon slayers? why was he not able to find them when they were going all out against each other in the grand magic games? why did he not find them when they were fighting 7 other real dragons? why did he not find them when they were fighting the oracion seis? (3 dragon slayers), why did he not find them when they were fighting phanto lord? (literally 2 guilds were colliding + 2 dragon slayers were going all out lol), why did he not find them in the BOS? why did he not find gajeel, wendy, sting, rouge, cobra,l axus off screen if he had no trouble finding them? why did he have no trouble finding laxus,gajeel and natsu when all 3 of them were fighting each other in the grand magic games? oh yeah cause he had trouble finding them because he couldn't just randomly sense dragons/dragon slayers across the entire continent lol
Dunno if you forgot this scene or not but zeref literally left the book when he went to visit acnologia thats why acno didn't blast him, zeref probably knew that acno hates END and wanted to kill him thats probably the reason why he left the book and didn't bring it with him
Zeref vs Acnologia - YouTube
Even if mard geer did just found it, mard geer knew that END could kill zeref (just like how mashima somehow knows that dragon gods are equal to acno, dunno why you guys believe that but not mards statement lol). mard geer used the other demons to help him summon END so he could complete his goal, to kill zeref
Lol no what its not natsu going all out, lucy clearly gave natsu a buff by reviving him lmao otherwise how would natsu be able to beat FH zeref if his DF got no diffed? LOL
Bruh, flames of emotions/SF natsu would one shot any dragon god lmao, he just burns threw there magic and they all go bye bye also even if SF (im just gonna call him that) was weaker then dragon gods then it wont matter because natsu with SF can BURN time-space, do you think that wood can burn time-space? do you think that water can burn time-space? do you think that the moon can burn time-space? lol no, nowhere close so yeah FH zeref no diffs those 3 fake acno tiers, as for ignia he NEVER burned natsus hands, that was obviously just character design i mean if we are going by your logic then END, someone who is only base zeref tier burned his own hands casually, if we re going by your logic then Bloodlusted END>>>>>Casual END>>FP SF natsu>>>>>FH zeref?
Ignia gets murdered by FH zeref, hell he gets murdered by even base zeref lol
So by your logic, august is on the same level as neinhart now since all spriggnas are on the same level? lmao what?
END is on darkness grays level, darkness gray is on irene/august level oh wait by your logic Darkness gray is above FH zeref level since he was on par with END who casually burned his own arms
Dragon slayer resistance IS a thing, how many times do i have to explain this? dragon slayer resistance is not durability but it is just your resistance to dragon slaying magic, i already explained this above so i am not gonna write it all out twice in one post
Erza did take damage from deus sema, lol you seriously aren't trying to argue that a broken bone erza that took extra damage from wendy B can no sell deus sema are you? LMAO WHAT? we clearly saw an explosion made when deus sema shattered, erza clearly took damage from it even newborn babies knows that erza cant just no sell a meteor explosion (from irene) while having her bones being broken + tired from fighting irene all day + taking damage from wendy B. Lol are you trying to argue that erza with all those nerfs that i just listed hits harder then wendy, the same person that hurt base dimaria? lmao you cant be seriou are you?
It wasn't, the one that natsu used on jacob had island level D.C, the one that natsu used on aldoron only had mountain level D.C
Again age scratch>Max pain, age scratch can make you feel the max pain plus every other pain that you felt in your life, yeah no it has max pain beat. if you cant get higher then max pain then age scratch is basically just a one shot ability so bloodman uses max pain on aldoron when irene enchants him with DS magic and then dimaria uses age scratch = aldorons grave yard
You aren't arguing that irene can ignore the pain of acnos attacks.... are you?
Uh no the flames were ignias,igneels and atlas's they weren't natsus it was theres, the only thing is that natsu can use there flames on will now, and tbh FDK is probably only like 1% or less of igneels power since half dead igneel was damaging acnologia while FDK only did 1 damage to aldoron
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END doesn't have a specific curse power that makes him immune to time magic for the same reason he doesn't have a specific curse power that makes him immune to Brandish's power. Their powers simply don't affect him because his power far surpasses them. Both Dimaria and Brandish have made statements about how END's power surpasses their.@Axiomus
Yes ENDs power surpassed that of Cronos but that doesn't means that END surpassing Cronos means that he was able to move in timestop, he gained time resistance/immunity from being END, think about it why would END have time immunity? since time stop can affect people who are stronger then you and zeref made END to kill him then he must have gave END immunity to time stop otherwise END would have been worthless and zeref wouldn't have cared about him and would have just made him a member of tartaros, not the guildmaster that everyone in tartaros worshiped so yeah END does have time stop and time stop can work on stronger people unless they have time immunity or dragon scales, also dimaria froze the whole battlefield including laxus,wall and erza who are all stronger then her, another thing proving that TS can work on people stronger oh and did i forget to mention timestop working on natsu before he transformed into END? Lmao and u cant use the argument "Natsu was struggling in pain so he couldn't stop dimaria" it wont matter because if he was able to move in time stop then he would be screaming in pain when dimaria activated it and dimaria would have stopped for a second being surprised on why he was able to move and scream when the area was time stopped, why didn't she? oh yeah its because time stop can work on people who are stronger then you.
Dragon scales have high resistance (if thats a thing) to time stop, thats how they counter it, they aren't just really "hard" if they were then why couldn't a healthy erza that was enchanted by wendy one shot human irene (who is much weaker then her dragon form) when she hit her to the face? a healthy enchanted erza is >>>>>>>>>>>a non enchanted erza that got tired from taking a beating from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza that got all of her bones (except for one of her arms) shattered by dragon irene plus was tired at the same time from fighting and taking damage from wendy B>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a broken bone erza + a tired erza from wendy B fight + erza taking massive damage while destroyign deus sema, the same erza that one shotted dragon irene who is >>>>>>>human irene with dragon slayer magic, wanna know why? its because dragon scales aren't super "durable" they are just resistant to any magic that isn't dragon slayer magic, if they were "super durable" then A) Erza would have effortlessly one shotted irenes human form like nothing when he hit her head with it or B) erzas sword would have shattered from touching dragon irenes scales. so yeah dragon scales aren't durable they are just magic resistant lmao. tho some dragons have higher resistance to DS magic then others.
Yes irene is WAY above dimaria with or without her dragon form but that doesn't matters, irene is ranked above dimaria even by brandish and brandish knows that dimaria has time stop, so why would brandish rank irene above dimaria if she knew that dimaria had time stop? oh its simple its because irene has immunity/resistance to time stop to beat dimaria with, if she didn't then brandish would have said that dimaria was the strongest alongside august instead of irene if she didn't have immunity/resistance, and yes dimarias time stop can work on people stronger then her since i already proved this and no i changed my mind on irene being able to counter dimarias time stop because of her dragon scales because brandish didn't even know that irene was a dragon another thing proving that irene has immunity/resistance to time stop. same goes for august, august is above dimaria because he has immunity/resistance to time stop, screw what i said earlier august cant copy time stop magic if time is stopped so he would obviously need immunity/resistance to time stop to be above dimaria, other wise brandish would have said that dimaria is above both irene and august. Larcade on the other hand is debatable weather has has immunity/resistance to time stop, id say he doesn't but he should be faster then dimaria to hit her first so he would still win
Well jacob is not exactly overestimating his power, he just saw god serena die so he would obviously know that he would stand no chance against acnologia in combat i mean his combat skills are historia serena tier lol since jacob was beating up natsu the same way historia god serena did so jacob = historia god serena level in terms of combat and we all know that real god serena>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>historia god serena and jacob should be smart enough to know this so we all know for a fact that he was not gonna challenge acnologia to a fist-fist fight (especially since even zeref is scared of acnologia) and deadass got the entire empire just to try and steal fairy heart which might (key word: might) beat acnologia, so jacob for obvious reasons was gonna BFR acnologia to his dimension (just like irene) where he thought that acnologia was gonna end up dying, but of course that wasn't gonna work since he did not know that acnologia was immune to magic lol
END is immune to Cronos, Yep but not because his power surpasses Cronos but because he is made to move in time stop/be immune to it, i already explained this above so i wont be explaining it again
If acnologia could smell dragon slayers after they use there dragon slaying magic then answer me this, why didn't he smell natsu in the BOS when natsu used his dragon slaying magic on lullaby,bora,jellal or laxus??? why not him but god serena??? in fact why didn't he come to the GMG when natsu and gajeel were fighting sting and rouge using dragon slaying magic, why? oh yeah its because he couldn't just smell dragons if he could then he obviously would have rushed to the capital (if thats where the GMG took place) when 7 fucking dragons were fighting and 7 fucking dragon slayers, all 14 of them were going all fucking out in fact natsu produced more MP when fighting mother glare then he produced in tenrou island like natsu destroyed the eclipse gate which can survive the etherion canon which is continental, he was only like mountain-island level in tenrou arc yet acno was able to somehow smell him? and how was he able to smell god serena? makes no sense at all, probably just acno wondering around and seeing them i guess?
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I can understand irene removing her own scent since acno can smell dragon slayers if they aren't to far away but her not using DS magic? she literally used her abilities infront of acno (her abilities are DS magic based) so she was using them like it or not. acnologia did have trouble tracking down natsu,gajeel and wendy if he didn't then why did it take him a year to find wendy and the ROT boost to capture the other dragon slayers? why was he not able to find them when they were going all out against each other in the grand magic games? why did he not find them when they were fighting 7 other real dragons? why did he not find them when they were fighting the oracion seis? (3 dragon slayers), why did he not find them when they were fighting phanto lord? (literally 2 guilds were colliding + 2 dragon slayers were going all out lol), why did he not find them in the BOS? why did he not find gajeel, wendy, sting, rouge, cobra,l axus off screen if he had no trouble finding them? why did he have no trouble finding laxus,gajeel and natsu when all 3 of them were fighting each other in the grand magic games? oh yeah cause he had trouble finding them because he couldn't just randomly sense dragons/dragon slayers across the entire continent lol
Dunno if you forgot this scene or not but zeref literally left the book when he went to visit acnologia thats why acno didn't blast him, zeref probably knew that acno hates END and wanted to kill him thats probably the reason why he left the book and didn't bring it with him
Zeref vs Acnologia - YouTube
Even if mard geer did just found it, mard geer knew that END could kill zeref (just like how mashima somehow knows that dragon gods are equal to acno, dunno why you guys believe that but not mards statement lol). mard geer used the other demons to help him summon END so he could complete his goal, to kill zeref
Lol no what its not natsu going all out, lucy clearly gave natsu a buff by reviving him lmao otherwise how would natsu be able to beat FH zeref if his DF got no diffed? LOL
Bruh, flames of emotions/SF natsu would one shot any dragon god lmao, he just burns threw there magic and they all go bye bye also even if SF (im just gonna call him that) was weaker then dragon gods then it wont matter because natsu with SF can BURN time-space, do you think that wood can burn time-space? do you think that water can burn time-space? do you think that the moon can burn time-space? lol no, nowhere close so yeah FH zeref no diffs those 3 fake acno tiers, as for ignia he NEVER burned natsus hands, that was obviously just character design i mean if we are going by your logic then END, someone who is only base zeref tier burned his own hands casually, if we re going by your logic then Bloodlusted END>>>>>Casual END>>FP SF natsu>>>>>FH zeref?
Ignia gets murdered by FH zeref, hell he gets murdered by even base zeref lol
So by your logic, august is on the same level as neinhart now since all spriggnas are on the same level? lmao what?
END is on darkness grays level, darkness gray is on irene/august level oh wait by your logic Darkness gray is above FH zeref level since he was on par with END who casually burned his own arms
Dragon slayer resistance IS a thing, how many times do i have to explain this? dragon slayer resistance is not durability but it is just your resistance to dragon slaying magic, i already explained this above so i am not gonna write it all out twice in one post
Erza did take damage from deus sema, lol you seriously aren't trying to argue that a broken bone erza that took extra damage from wendy B can no sell deus sema are you? LMAO WHAT? we clearly saw an explosion made when deus sema shattered, erza clearly took damage from it even newborn babies knows that erza cant just no sell a meteor explosion (from irene) while having her bones being broken + tired from fighting irene all day + taking damage from wendy B. Lol are you trying to argue that erza with all those nerfs that i just listed hits harder then wendy, the same person that hurt base dimaria? lmao you cant be seriou are you?
It wasn't, the one that natsu used on jacob had island level D.C, the one that natsu used on aldoron only had mountain level D.C
Again age scratch>Max pain, age scratch can make you feel the max pain plus every other pain that you felt in your life, yeah no it has max pain beat. if you cant get higher then max pain then age scratch is basically just a one shot ability so bloodman uses max pain on aldoron when irene enchants him with DS magic and then dimaria uses age scratch = aldorons grave yard
You aren't arguing that irene can ignore the pain of acnos attacks.... are you?
Uh no the flames were ignias,igneels and atlas's they weren't natsus it was theres, the only thing is that natsu can use there flames on will now, and tbh FDK is probably only like 1% or less of igneels power since half dead igneel was damaging acnologia while FDK only did 1 damage to aldoron
Zeref has absolutely zero reason to give END the reason to move in stopped time. It doesn't help END kill him. And again, Zeref never planned on using END's power in his suicide anyways. He decided pretty early on that he had better chances if he lets Igneel train Natsu in dragon slaying magic, and use that to kill him. Igneel's magic wouldn't have given Natsu any time immunity magic....Nor was time immunity ever a factor in ANY of Natsu and Zeref's fights. Or any of Zeref's fights in general.
Dragon scales are simply really hard. They don't offer resistance to any type of magic other than simply being so hard that most attacks can't penetrate it.
Your whole rant about Erza vs Irene's human and dragon form is irrelevant. The reason Erza didn't oneshot Irene in her human form is because she doesn't have a slayer advantage against Irene's human form. She does against her dragon form. Dragon slaying magic does extra damage to dragons, and helps penetrate dragon scales. And no, Erza's sword wouldn't just break against Irene's dragon form.....Even if Erza didn't have dragon slaying magic.
Acno didn't smell Natsu in the beginning of the series because Natsu's dragon slaying magic was too weak. Or Acno might have been flying around in another country altogether. It honestly doesn't matter. You act like as if Acnologia's nose grants can sniff out stuff over the entire continent. Like I said, Acnologia could have simply been asleep or not paying attention when the GMG went down. Eclipse went down in the middle of the night and lasted for like an hour before the gate was destroyed. Had the dragons stuck around, you bet Acno would have showed up to kill them. And no, Irene's enchantments are not all dragon slaying magic. Just because you are a dragon slayer, doesn't mean all the magic you use is DS magic. It didn't take Acno a year to track down Natsu, Wendy, and Gajeel lol. He just sat in a cave. When he finally decided to move out, it took like....I dunno, maybe a few hours to track them down?
As far as going for the book of END specifically. What else can I say? Acno had 400 years to go after END's book. Didn't care about it. He could have hunted Zeref down in the year that followed. Didn't care to. He could have blasted Zeref along with the book right there in his cave. And no, Zeref didn't leave the book. He obviously carried it with him lol. How do you think Mavis was able to steal it off him? If Acno has been consistent about one thing, is that he only cares about hunting down dragons. Or whatever he thinks is a dragon. He thinks it's a joke that Igneel thought he was scared of one of Zeref's demons.
There is no such thing as Dragon Slaying Magic resistance. That's literally a thing you made up because you don't want to accept the fact that the god dragons just have better durability than Irene. The reason why Erza oneshots Irene and not Mercphobia or Aldoron is simply because they have better durability than Irene. You don't just get to make up a new power that nobody ever talked about it.
Mard Geer didn't know anything about END. Anyone that knew about END would have known Zeref never actually planned to use END's power to die. He figured that he had a better chance sending Natsu to be trained with Igneel. If Mard Geer knew anything about what went down with END, Mard Geer should have clued in on who Natsu was when he told him he was Igneel's son. Also, did you just try to compare a fictional character to Mashima himself? Lol.
Erza took no damage from Deus Sema. The explosion was from Erza's attack. Erza's not taking damage from her own attack. Also, yeah. I am absolutely claiming that Erza still hits harder than Wendy even when all her bones are broken. As I've established with how Erza and Dimaria handled END, Erza's right
hand is literally worth more than Dimaria's entirely.
No, Lucy rewriting the book didn't give Natsu a power-up. It just fixed his wounds. It didn't put any of END's power back into Natsu. In fact, END's power just went into Lucy....and then Gray destroyed it. Like I said, what Natsu used to beat Zeref was his flames of emotions. It comes from his love for the guild.
Again, no. Max pain makes you feel the maximum amount of pain possible. You simply can't feel more pain after that. There is a neurological limit to how much pain your brain can make you feel, and once you reach that point....No extra stimulus is going to add to the pain. Age Scratch can accumulate pain from your past injuries, but once it hits the maximum threshold any extra stimulus isn't going to make a difference. Like I said, if someone blows off your leg and pokes you with a needle, you ain't gonna care about the needle. Can Irene ignore the pain from Acno's attacks? Absolutely. Anybody who is mentally tough enough can ignore the pain from any injury. What they cannot do is ignore is the physical damage. For example, if Acno rips off a leg from Irene, she could conceivably push past the pain and keep fighting. It would be no different than Deliora ripping off a leg from Ur. However, if Acno rips Irene in half like he did Igneel, then Irene is simply dead. She probably won't even feel much pain. Her body goes into shock, and then she just dies.
No, dude. The flames were Natsu's. He even said so himself. Those flames are Natsu's flames. Natsu's flames have the combined properties of Igneel's, Ignia's, and Atlas' flames. They are stronger than just Igneel's flames, which Natsu used against Aldoron earlier.
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He does have a specific curse that makes him immune to time stop, it was stated that his power surpassed that of Cronos, meaning that even time stop was not enough to stop him since he gained immunity to it, power can also just mean that you gained immunity or resistance to time stop since his power surpassed that of cronos, besides by power it could also just meant that natsu burned threw dimaria’s time stop since natsu can literally burn threw magic and END boosted him up a bit, him being stronger doesn’t even make sense since dimaria's time stop worked on laxus,wall,erza and jellal, all of those people are way stronger than her so why did it work on them? Oh yeah it’s because time stop simply ignores how strong the user is and that you need immunity/resistance to time stop to bypass it, besides zeref made END to kill him, however the only way that END should be able to kill him is by moving in time stop otherwise what’s the point of creating END? END should logically be immune to time stop saying otherwise is headcanon, same goes for saying that stronger people can move in time stop, all that is pure headcanon. And again brandish’s magic won't affect natsu is because natsu’s magic power far surpasses her own, however we say brandish enlarge natsu’s tumor and shrink augusts wound, both natsu and august far surpass her in magic power so why was brandish able to shrink augusts wound and natsu’s magic power? Oh yeah it’s simple, a wound and a tumor is completely different from magic power itself so brandish can still enlarge/shrink the organs,tumors and wounds of stronger people but it can’t affect their magic power in general. As for why she wasn’t able to shrink natsu’s tumor its simple, the tumor had to much magic power for her to shrink, meaning that she can’t shrink tumors or organs that have magic power greater then her but she can still shrink any organs or tumors that don’t have magic power like END was the only one that had a tumor that surpassed even brandish in magic power, no one else did. Or another reason why brandish’s magic couldn’t affect END is because END simply gained immunity to brandish’s magic at that point, but not just his magic power but his entire body itself (organs,tumors etc). Show me dragon gods having all the resources that i listed above.
Zeref has reasons to give natsu time stop, because he wanted natsu to kill him yet he knows that natsu won’t be able to kill him if natsu is not able to move in time stop. So he obviously gave natsu time immunity otherwise he would have no reason to create natsu in the first place. he probably wants natsu to train with igneel because he needed natsu to get stronger, to the level where he wanted END to be, because when natsu becomes END his magic power massively increased so zeref probably knew that if he wanted END to become a thing he needed natsu to get stronger in order to kill him as for why time immunity wasn’t a factor in natsu vs zeref, its because zeref never used time stop lol, if he did then time immunity would become a factor since time stop won’t work on someone that is immune to it, besides you can argue that it already was a factor since zeref knows that natsu is immune to time stop (since zeref made him to be immune to it) so why would zeref use time stop on someone that is immune to it? Dumb move if you ask me. And igneel’s magic obviously wouldn’t have gave natsu immunity to time stop since natsu already had it to begin with but igneel’s magic can arguably help natsu counter time stop by burning through it.
Dragon scales do not rely on durability but dragon scales are simply just resistant to magic, it should be obvious at this point. BRUH YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUS DID YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT I JUST SAID? LMAO, you yourself said that dragon scales are just extremely durable if they are just durable then why the fuck did erza need fucking dragon slayer magic to one shot irene? Dragon slayer magic doesn’t makes you stronger it only gives you an advantage against dragon slayers, so erza with her DS sword was just the same as her without it, the only difference was that erza had all of her bones broken, took massive damage from deus semas explosion, took damage from wendy B as well, meanwhile the erza that hit human irene in the head was a healthy erza, that got her entire body enchanted by wendy and had no injuries whatsoever, see the difference? If dragon scales were extremely durable then why was a nerfed erza able to one shot dragon irene but a buffed erza couldn’t even hurt human irene so if we are going by your logic then human irene is>>>>>>dragon irene? You know how stupid that sounds? Dragon scales are probably durable but they are also extremely resistant to magic and I already proved this, read before you write cause I might not repeat it again. Erza’s sword obviously would have shattered if they didn’t have DS magic since a full powered healthy enchanted erza’s sword could only make human irene’s head bleed a little bit even with plot on her side (it was plot because ajeel was playing around with erza yet erza was able to make irene bleed), so the nerfed erza’s sword would have obviously shattered since dragon irene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>human irene, and not even sure if erza had plot that time.
As i said before, acnologia's “dragon sensor” doesn’t matters on magic power, in fact he never had one to begin with and i already proved it, like how was he able to find natsu at tenrou island but not a much stronger natsu at GMG arc? Like tenrou island natsu was only like mountain-island level, GMG natsu straight up destroyed the eclipse gate which is as srong as etherion which is continental, making GMG arc natsu continental as well, continental is millions of times above island level so natsu in GMG arc was millions of times above tenrou island (with atlas flames boost at least) but the thing is that acnologia wasn’t able to FIND him in GMG arc so he obviously doesn’t has a dragon sensor, he probably only found natsu at tenrou island because he was just wondering around and could probably smell dragon slayers if they aren’t too Far away that’s probably how he was able to find the tenrou team not some dragon “sensor” that can detect others hundreds of kilometers away. Why would acnologia be flying in another country? If he WAS flying away in other countries then why didn’t he find god serena? Or diabolos? Or dragon gods? Or other hidden dragons if there are some still waiting to be shown in the 100 year quest but the thing is that he never went into another country since we saw him sitting in the cave when zeref visited him lol, their is a higher chance of him just being in the cave instead of flying around to other countries or whatsoever. Lmao why would acnologia be asleep for days? What? You think he’s lazy? If he was lazy then why did he decide to drive the entire dragon population to near extinction? 7 dragon existing in the world for an hour should be more than enough to bring acnologia to the capital (if that was where the GMG happened) if he had a dragon sensor that is lmao but yeah he didn’t that is why he wasn’t able to find BOS natsu it is because he didn’t have a dragon sensor. Exactly so if you think that acnologia was sitting in a cave for 7 years and then 1 year later then why do u believe that he was flying to other countries….
400 years? Acnologia probably didn’t know that the END book was a thing at that time, he probably found out about the END book maybe 200-300 years later? Maybe even longer? Who knows but he still wanted to look for the END book because he feared END. Zeref is good at hiding so that's how acno wasn’t able to find the book of END, it is because he wasn’t able to find ZEREF, lol first a dragon slayer sensor and now acnologia somehow has a zeref sensor? Lmao, as i said earlier zeref didn’t BRING his book of END with him to the cave with acnologia bruh did you ignore the youtube link that i sent you? Lmao how could acnologia blast zeref with his book if he didn’t have a book? You realize how stupid that sounds? Show me zeref bringing his book with him to Acnologia's cave. I will wait, he probably didn’t bring it with him because he knew that acnologia would take it from him and destroy it without a second thought. Zeref did leave his book, again why did you ignore the link that i sent? Zeref clearly left his book, bruh mavis stole zeref’s book AFTER he talked with acnologia, you gotta be trolling at this point when did mavis steal the book of END when zeref was talking to acnologia? Are you trolling or did you not watch the series? (explains your suzaku wank if you didn’t) the reason why acnologia said that he didn’t fear END in front of igneel is because he didn’t want to look like a wimp in front of him obviously.
Yes there is such thing as dragon slayer resistance and i already proved it, dragon scales aren’t just durable or whatever but they are also resistant to magic that is why only DRAGON SLAYER magic can hurt them because it is there kryptonite, dragon slayer magic just doesn’t increases your stats than an average wizard, it just gives you an advantage against a dragon since dragon scales are weak to dragon slaying magic, by your logic wendy is stronger than gildarts now since gildarts magic can’t work on dragons while wendys can. Dragon gods aren’t more durable then irene show me proof that they are, irene in human form took a FP enchanted erza’s sword to the head with plot involved, selene got her cheeks cut by suzaku who a weakened erza was able to match for some time and then selene got one shot by suzaku as well, so Irene's durability>>>>>>Selene, Selene just had better dragon slayer resistance then irene, wait selene might not have better dragon slaying resistance since we didn’t see her tank an attack from a dragon slayer yet in her dragon form, she blitzed georg before he could use his magic on her.
Mard geer did know END, he knew that END is the master of tartaros, he knew that END was gonna kill zeref, he just didn’t know the the END stands for and he just didn’t know ENDs real identity since zeref never revealed it to him, yes he sent natsu to train with igneel because he wanted natsu to get as strong as he wanted END to be, the only way to that was by getting igneel to train him
Erza did take damage from deus sema in fact she took damage from wendy belserion who is about 0.9%-1% of irene’s power, deus sema on the other hand is one of irene’s strongest attacks so erza would obviously take massive damage from it, saying she cant is simple headcanon, the explosion wasn’t from erza’s attack lol it was the explosion from deus sema when erza SHATTERED it, deus sema simply just exploded when erza hit it and since when can erza’s swords make massive explosions? Lmao never have I once in the entire series saw Erza's swords make giant explosions and it is pretty much common sense that meteors make massive explosions when they get destroyed or make physical contact and guess what? Erza survived it. An extremely nerfed erza doesn’t hits harder then wendy, like at all, DF wendy was on par with base nepal who is kyria tier and kyria was on par with a heavily casual/holding back healthy erza, who is still >>>a broken bone erza that took damage from deus sema + tired from fighting irene + took damage from Wendy B, end. If we are going by your logic than erza’s right arm can survive ignia form natsu level flames since by your logic again END burned natsus arm casually lmao, wendy>>>nerfed erza either way
Yes lucy rewriting natsu’s life did give him a powerup, like he was able to burn his own fucking arm, meanwhile even with igneels flames natsu couldn’t do that, are you saying that a FP base natsu>natsu with a portion of igneels flames now? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? (for the third time), not to mention that even with his dragon force he couldn’t burn his own arm and his dragon force>his full power base form for obvious reasons otherwise he wouldn’t have went DF and just went full power lmao, yet FH zeref one shotted and KILLED DF natsu if lucy didn’t revive him, however when natsu came back he was on par with zeref and then burned his goddamn time-space magic plus the fairy heart itself ((which is never ending magic power), so lucy obviously gave him a buff denying it is just delusional. What natsu used to beat zeref is a temporary powerup that lucy gave him, not his emotions powering him up tho u can just argue that its plot tbh since END burned natsu’s arms (or it was just character design) but END is fodder to FH zeref
>Kyokas Max pain could not knock out erza even tho it was “max pain”
>Suzaku knocked out erza
So yeah there isn’t a limit to how much pain u can feel, well in fiction at least
Bruh no those aren’t natsu’s flames those are flames from igneel, atlas and ignia, aldoron literally said it himself that those are the 3 dragons fire, natsu just borrowed them and can now use those flames at will.
He does have a specific curse that makes him immune to time stop, it was stated that his power surpassed that of Cronos, meaning that even time stop was not enough to stop him since he gained immunity to it, power can also just mean that you gained immunity or resistance to time stop since his power surpassed that of cronos, besides by power it could also just meant that natsu burned threw dimaria’s time stop since natsu can literally burn threw magic and END boosted him up a bit, him being stronger doesn’t even make sense since dimaria's time stop worked on laxus,wall,erza and jellal, all of those people are way stronger than her so why did it work on them? Oh yeah it’s because time stop simply ignores how strong the user is and that you need immunity/resistance to time stop to bypass it, besides zeref made END to kill him, however the only way that END should be able to kill him is by moving in time stop otherwise what’s the point of creating END? END should logically be immune to time stop saying otherwise is headcanon, same goes for saying that stronger people can move in time stop, all that is pure headcanon. And again brandish’s magic won't affect natsu is because natsu’s magic power far surpasses her own, however we say brandish enlarge natsu’s tumor and shrink augusts wound, both natsu and august far surpass her in magic power so why was brandish able to shrink augusts wound and natsu’s magic power? Oh yeah it’s simple, a wound and a tumor is completely different from magic power itself so brandish can still enlarge/shrink the organs,tumors and wounds of stronger people but it can’t affect their magic power in general. As for why she wasn’t able to shrink natsu’s tumor its simple, the tumor had to much magic power for her to shrink, meaning that she can’t shrink tumors or organs that have magic power greater then her but she can still shrink any organs or tumors that don’t have magic power like END was the only one that had a tumor that surpassed even brandish in magic power, no one else did. Or another reason why brandish’s magic couldn’t affect END is because END simply gained immunity to brandish’s magic at that point, but not just his magic power but his entire body itself (organs,tumors etc). Show me dragon gods having all the resources that i listed above.
Zeref has reasons to give natsu time stop, because he wanted natsu to kill him yet he knows that natsu won’t be able to kill him if natsu is not able to move in time stop. So he obviously gave natsu time immunity otherwise he would have no reason to create natsu in the first place. he probably wants natsu to train with igneel because he needed natsu to get stronger, to the level where he wanted END to be, because when natsu becomes END his magic power massively increased so zeref probably knew that if he wanted END to become a thing he needed natsu to get stronger in order to kill him as for why time immunity wasn’t a factor in natsu vs zeref, its because zeref never used time stop lol, if he did then time immunity would become a factor since time stop won’t work on someone that is immune to it, besides you can argue that it already was a factor since zeref knows that natsu is immune to time stop (since zeref made him to be immune to it) so why would zeref use time stop on someone that is immune to it? Dumb move if you ask me. And igneel’s magic obviously wouldn’t have gave natsu immunity to time stop since natsu already had it to begin with but igneel’s magic can arguably help natsu counter time stop by burning through it.
Dragon scales do not rely on durability but dragon scales are simply just resistant to magic, it should be obvious at this point. BRUH YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUS DID YOU JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT I JUST SAID? LMAO, you yourself said that dragon scales are just extremely durable if they are just durable then why the fuck did erza need fucking dragon slayer magic to one shot irene? Dragon slayer magic doesn’t makes you stronger it only gives you an advantage against dragon slayers, so erza with her DS sword was just the same as her without it, the only difference was that erza had all of her bones broken, took massive damage from deus semas explosion, took damage from wendy B as well, meanwhile the erza that hit human irene in the head was a healthy erza, that got her entire body enchanted by wendy and had no injuries whatsoever, see the difference? If dragon scales were extremely durable then why was a nerfed erza able to one shot dragon irene but a buffed erza couldn’t even hurt human irene so if we are going by your logic then human irene is>>>>>>dragon irene? You know how stupid that sounds? Dragon scales are probably durable but they are also extremely resistant to magic and I already proved this, read before you write cause I might not repeat it again. Erza’s sword obviously would have shattered if they didn’t have DS magic since a full powered healthy enchanted erza’s sword could only make human irene’s head bleed a little bit even with plot on her side (it was plot because ajeel was playing around with erza yet erza was able to make irene bleed), so the nerfed erza’s sword would have obviously shattered since dragon irene>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>human irene, and not even sure if erza had plot that time.
As i said before, acnologia's “dragon sensor” doesn’t matters on magic power, in fact he never had one to begin with and i already proved it, like how was he able to find natsu at tenrou island but not a much stronger natsu at GMG arc? Like tenrou island natsu was only like mountain-island level, GMG natsu straight up destroyed the eclipse gate which is as srong as etherion which is continental, making GMG arc natsu continental as well, continental is millions of times above island level so natsu in GMG arc was millions of times above tenrou island (with atlas flames boost at least) but the thing is that acnologia wasn’t able to FIND him in GMG arc so he obviously doesn’t has a dragon sensor, he probably only found natsu at tenrou island because he was just wondering around and could probably smell dragon slayers if they aren’t too Far away that’s probably how he was able to find the tenrou team not some dragon “sensor” that can detect others hundreds of kilometers away. Why would acnologia be flying in another country? If he WAS flying away in other countries then why didn’t he find god serena? Or diabolos? Or dragon gods? Or other hidden dragons if there are some still waiting to be shown in the 100 year quest but the thing is that he never went into another country since we saw him sitting in the cave when zeref visited him lol, their is a higher chance of him just being in the cave instead of flying around to other countries or whatsoever. Lmao why would acnologia be asleep for days? What? You think he’s lazy? If he was lazy then why did he decide to drive the entire dragon population to near extinction? 7 dragon existing in the world for an hour should be more than enough to bring acnologia to the capital (if that was where the GMG happened) if he had a dragon sensor that is lmao but yeah he didn’t that is why he wasn’t able to find BOS natsu it is because he didn’t have a dragon sensor. Exactly so if you think that acnologia was sitting in a cave for 7 years and then 1 year later then why do u believe that he was flying to other countries….
400 years? Acnologia probably didn’t know that the END book was a thing at that time, he probably found out about the END book maybe 200-300 years later? Maybe even longer? Who knows but he still wanted to look for the END book because he feared END. Zeref is good at hiding so that's how acno wasn’t able to find the book of END, it is because he wasn’t able to find ZEREF, lol first a dragon slayer sensor and now acnologia somehow has a zeref sensor? Lmao, as i said earlier zeref didn’t BRING his book of END with him to the cave with acnologia bruh did you ignore the youtube link that i sent you? Lmao how could acnologia blast zeref with his book if he didn’t have a book? You realize how stupid that sounds? Show me zeref bringing his book with him to Acnologia's cave. I will wait, he probably didn’t bring it with him because he knew that acnologia would take it from him and destroy it without a second thought. Zeref did leave his book, again why did you ignore the link that i sent? Zeref clearly left his book, bruh mavis stole zeref’s book AFTER he talked with acnologia, you gotta be trolling at this point when did mavis steal the book of END when zeref was talking to acnologia? Are you trolling or did you not watch the series? (explains your suzaku wank if you didn’t) the reason why acnologia said that he didn’t fear END in front of igneel is because he didn’t want to look like a wimp in front of him obviously.
Yes there is such thing as dragon slayer resistance and i already proved it, dragon scales aren’t just durable or whatever but they are also resistant to magic that is why only DRAGON SLAYER magic can hurt them because it is there kryptonite, dragon slayer magic just doesn’t increases your stats than an average wizard, it just gives you an advantage against a dragon since dragon scales are weak to dragon slaying magic, by your logic wendy is stronger than gildarts now since gildarts magic can’t work on dragons while wendys can. Dragon gods aren’t more durable then irene show me proof that they are, irene in human form took a FP enchanted erza’s sword to the head with plot involved, selene got her cheeks cut by suzaku who a weakened erza was able to match for some time and then selene got one shot by suzaku as well, so Irene's durability>>>>>>Selene, Selene just had better dragon slayer resistance then irene, wait selene might not have better dragon slaying resistance since we didn’t see her tank an attack from a dragon slayer yet in her dragon form, she blitzed georg before he could use his magic on her.
Mard geer did know END, he knew that END is the master of tartaros, he knew that END was gonna kill zeref, he just didn’t know the the END stands for and he just didn’t know ENDs real identity since zeref never revealed it to him, yes he sent natsu to train with igneel because he wanted natsu to get as strong as he wanted END to be, the only way to that was by getting igneel to train him
Erza did take damage from deus sema in fact she took damage from wendy belserion who is about 0.9%-1% of irene’s power, deus sema on the other hand is one of irene’s strongest attacks so erza would obviously take massive damage from it, saying she cant is simple headcanon, the explosion wasn’t from erza’s attack lol it was the explosion from deus sema when erza SHATTERED it, deus sema simply just exploded when erza hit it and since when can erza’s swords make massive explosions? Lmao never have I once in the entire series saw Erza's swords make giant explosions and it is pretty much common sense that meteors make massive explosions when they get destroyed or make physical contact and guess what? Erza survived it. An extremely nerfed erza doesn’t hits harder then wendy, like at all, DF wendy was on par with base nepal who is kyria tier and kyria was on par with a heavily casual/holding back healthy erza, who is still >>>a broken bone erza that took damage from deus sema + tired from fighting irene + took damage from Wendy B, end. If we are going by your logic than erza’s right arm can survive ignia form natsu level flames since by your logic again END burned natsus arm casually lmao, wendy>>>nerfed erza either way
Yes lucy rewriting natsu’s life did give him a powerup, like he was able to burn his own fucking arm, meanwhile even with igneels flames natsu couldn’t do that, are you saying that a FP base natsu>natsu with a portion of igneels flames now? Do you realise how stupid that sounds? (for the third time), not to mention that even with his dragon force he couldn’t burn his own arm and his dragon force>his full power base form for obvious reasons otherwise he wouldn’t have went DF and just went full power lmao, yet FH zeref one shotted and KILLED DF natsu if lucy didn’t revive him, however when natsu came back he was on par with zeref and then burned his goddamn time-space magic plus the fairy heart itself ((which is never ending magic power), so lucy obviously gave him a buff denying it is just delusional. What natsu used to beat zeref is a temporary powerup that lucy gave him, not his emotions powering him up tho u can just argue that its plot tbh since END burned natsu’s arms (or it was just character design) but END is fodder to FH zeref
>Kyokas Max pain could not knock out erza even tho it was “max pain”
>Suzaku knocked out erza
So yeah there isn’t a limit to how much pain u can feel, well in fiction at least
Bruh no those aren’t natsu’s flames those are flames from igneel, atlas and ignia, aldoron literally said it himself that those are the 3 dragons fire, natsu just borrowed them and can now use those flames at will.