Discussion Arlen's goals and whereabouts

[Demonspeed]

Main story:

• Arlen became insane after Baam's death by Zahard and V's suicide.
• Couldn't kill herself because of the Immortality Contract.
• Found a way to leave the Tower and was obsessed with revenge.
• Kept Baam's corpse from rotting thanks to a Spell and offered him to the Outside God.
• In her diaries, she says that Baam will kill Zahard.
• Met and discussed with Rachel.

Spin-off:

• Zahard planned to use Dorothy's body as host for her.
• Dorothy wants and believes she can meet her.
• Arlen supposedly wants to return.

I think that's about everything? Why would Arlen want to return and if she does why would she need another body? How could Zahard even be aware of this and why would Arlen want to stay in a Zahard Princess's body, considering she hates Zahard? Even assuming she doesn't know that Zahard can control them to an extent, it should be super fishy.

Is she already in the Tower? If yes, where and why would she need another body? What does she get from another body when she is one of the GWs and has the Immortality Contract?

Stuff about Arlen is even more confusing than V at the moment.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

> Found a way to leave the Tower

This isn't a fact. Its just implied. Now that we know there are cracks or rifts inside the tower, that could be a place without Jahad and guardians.

 

[Demonspeed]

> Found a way to leave the Tower

This isn't a fact. Its just implied. Now that we know there are cracks or rifts inside the tower, that could be a place without Jahad and guardians.

She said so in her diary and Rachel met her. The Red Dump and the cracks are still places inside the Tower.

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Baam was brought outside too.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

She said so in her diary and Rachel met her. The Red Dump and the cracks are still places inside the Tower.

I don't remember Rachel meeting Arlene. Can u give me the panel or chapter number?

Also like i said Arlene leaving is just a theory, not a fact. She just said a place without Jahad or guardian and rift is exactly such a place.

 

[Demonspeed]

I don't remember Rachel meeting Arlene. Can u give me the panel or chapter number?

Also like i said Arlene leaving is just a theory, not a fact. She just said a place without Jahad or guardian and rift is exactly such a place.

Rachel mentions that she did and that she told him something about Baam. I don't remember where though.

Wasn't Baam outside?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Wasn't Baam outside?

Him being outside doesn't necessarily mean Arlene went outside. Could be Enryu took him.

 

[Demonspeed]

Him being outside doesn't necessarily mean Arlene went outside. Could be Enryu took him.

This is far more convoluted. Enryu killed the Admin and left. Why wouldn't he be mentioned in the diary? Why would he only take Baam but not Arlen, who also wanted to leave? Why not take Baam immediately after killing the Admin, raise him and teach him how to use the Thorn?

What about Rachel's past?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

• Zahard planned to use Dorothy's body as host for her.

I don't think it was zaharad but arlen who created dorothy.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

This is far more convoluted. Enryu killed the Admin and left. Why wouldn't he be mentioned in the diary? Why would he only take Baam but not Arlen, who also wanted to leave? Why not take Baam immediately after killing the Admin, raise him and teach him how to use the Thorn?

What about Rachel's past?

Why would Arlene want to go outside? So far it looks like they were bunch of regular people. Inside the tower, she is a god, immortal. She can always stay in a rift, where there's no guardian or Jahad.

 

[Demonspeed]

Why would Arlene want to go outside? So far it looks like they were bunch of regular people. Inside the tower, she is a god, immortal. She can always stay in a rift, where there's no guardian or Jahad.

Are we reading the same story? The woman who tried to kill herself? Are the GWs happy now? No they aren't.

What kind of logic makes you think that Enryu staying there and doing all of this makes more sense that Arlen leaving with her own child? How do you explain Rachel's knowledge regarding Arlen?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Are we reading the same story? The woman who tried to kill herself? Are the GWs happy now? No they aren't.

What kind of logic makes you think that Enryu staying there and doing all of this makes more sense that Arlen leaving with her own child? How do you explain Rachel's knowledge regarding Arlen?

Because Arlene doesn't have that strength. We know even an Axis like UM hasn't been able to get out out of the tower. It doesn't make sense for Arlene to leave on her own.

 

[Demonspeed]

I don't think it was zaharad but arlen who created dorothy.

Created?

Because Arlene doesn't have that strength. We know even an Axis like UM hasn't been able to get out out of the tower. It doesn't make sense for Arlene to leave on her own.

It's not just about strength though? She said she found a way and we know Baam was brought outside so why doubt it?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Created?



It's not just about strength though? She said she found a way and we know Baam was brought outside so why doubt it?

If you don't think arlen created her , its literally confirmed its arlen who is trying to take over her body. Zahard had no connection to her directly.

 

[Rak]

I don't think it was zaharad but arlen who created dorothy.

Makes sense to me. Skake called her "our Dorothy" and it seems highly propable that the bunch who were sealed in the rift were V and Arlen followers. Also, Zahard wants to kill her.

 

[Demonspeed]

If you don't think arlen created her , its literally confirmed its arlen who is trying to take over her body. Zahard had no connection to her directly.

I am asking what you mean by created. Are you saying she is an artificial being? Because from what we know she was a girl threw in a pond who became a Zahard Princess after that.

 

[Strange]

If you don't think arlen created her , its literally confirmed its arlen who is trying to take over her body. Zahard had no connection to her directly.

Wont be so sure that it wasn't zahard nor i can say opposite, but where zahards blood came from can you explain if it wasn't zahard ? do you think zahards blood is somewhere in the air that anyone can get ? i dont think so

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

It's not just about strength though? She said she found a way and we know Baam was brought outside so why doubt it?

Because it's not outright stated. I feel Arlene will return later. Idk if tower will recognize or let her enter the one who has already entered in the same body.

 

[Demonspeed]

Because it's not outright stated. I feel Arlene will return later. Idk if tower will recognize or let her enter the one who has already entered in the same body.

With the way the spin-off ended it's pretty clear that she will return. But I already expected her to.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Revs is an Arlen creation. FUG is a V creation.

 

[Fortress of Solitude]

Spin-off:

• Zahard planned to use Dorothy's body as host for her.
• Dorothy wants and believes she can meet her.
• Arlen supposedly wants to return.

Zahard? I don't understand why would he knows anything about Dorothy...
Arlen? It can be her or Anne or someone else.

Why would Arlen want to return and if she does why would she need another body?

Is she already in the Tower?

Rachel knows to much things about the Tower like Arlen wanted that Rachel enter the Tower, Arlen used the same technique as V and enter Rachel's body... seems reasonnable.

If Arlen knows the Axis creation, her death is inevitable except if she become the Axis!
V said Arlen was a victim, may be it's her who manipulated V from a long time. Too many people purple thryssa, navigator, know about V returning.

The question is who know the purpose of the Tower.
And who know it's a trap? Eduan, Ari shin probably.

Because Arlene doesn't have that strength. We know even an Axis like UM hasn't been able to get out out of the tower. It doesn't make sense for Arlene to leave on her own.

Urek can leave the Tower when he wants but he has a reason to stay that we don't know yet.

It's not just about strength though? She said she found a way and we know Baam was brought outside so why doubt it?

Why the symbol of Zahard was in the cave? "Outside the Tower..." Why the spell who avoid Baam to decay still working outside the Tower?
May be she never leave but hide and only Baam and Rachel could take a route to the Door or Enryu/administrators made a new door inside the Tower!

Wont be so sure that it wasn't zahard nor i can say opposite, but where zahards blood came from can you explain if it wasn't zahard ? do you think zahards blood is somewhere in the air that anyone can get ? i dont think so

The princesses was created after the familly leader stopped the climb, Eduan don't know the process but Gustang, Arlen or V could know... in the end the snake(s?) still continue to create the princesses like Andorsi.