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I see and am tired of many of the threads in here that are nitpicking on some small stuff that indeed, are plot flaws in the manga. I never understood since when Naruto was analyzed like a valuable piece of literature and not as a manga for kids that like violence.
Of course there are plotholes, of course there are inconsistencies, because this is not supposed to be a tight and fully understandable novel. You guys are comparing chess with bowling, absinthe with beer, Citizen Kane with Rambo.
For example, one recent problem around us, Naruto fans, was pointed towards the incapability of Hiruzen as a Hokage and as a mentor for Naruto. Well, I will tell you why he is incapable:
- He didn't stop de Kyuubi because, otherwise, all the point THE MANGA would have been pointless.
- He hasn't trained Naruto because, again, it's a plot flaw that was the premise for the Naruto character. How are we supposed to feel sad for the main character if he would have been raised by the village leader himself?
- He wasn't able to do anything with the Uchiha because, again, that's one of the major plot points. Same with Orochimaru.
There are more other subjects regarding this. People complain about Naruto not being the main character anymore, because Sasuke has a bit more panel than usual, about Kishimoto being sexist because 1 in 10 women in the manga has big breasts, about Madara not using his MS, about Nagato not reviving Yahiko (what's the point of his backstory then?
) and so on and so forth.
What is even more funny is that people who try to put some deeper meaning to the plot and characters of Naruto don't even go through the end. For example, the side that claims that Naruto is a sexist manga, they only state that because there are no "kick ass" women, despite the fact that rather a big number of 1 women were kick ass in real life regarding any sorts of fighting. Or those that say how greatly developed Sasuke is, disregarding that he is a powerhorse with the personality of a brick.
That's why I said our mangaka is not a Shakespeare, or Dostoevsky. He can't fit everything right, and he doesn't want to. People need to remove their continuous idea that this is some sort of book that requires much intelligence for understanding.
Stop nitpicking, because the manga is flawed from point one. The whole deal about the ninjas - that's just a premise for the author to use magic powers. You can change the class and it's the same deal: pirate, alchemist, magician, psychic. There's nothing that even resembles a ninja's life in this manga (with very vague exceptions), so you're obviously analyzing the wrong art-piece.
If you have a problem with the amount of powers Naruto has, I have no problems. But don't accuse Kishimoto of bad writing because he's not creating a vast masterpiece in terms of storytelling.
edit: In case you are wondering, this thread is about discussing the over-focus we recently have regarding Naruto. How there is no real chapter that no is actually going to rant about. Do you agree with me or I'm the only user in here that isn't a literature critic?
Of course there are plotholes, of course there are inconsistencies, because this is not supposed to be a tight and fully understandable novel. You guys are comparing chess with bowling, absinthe with beer, Citizen Kane with Rambo.
For example, one recent problem around us, Naruto fans, was pointed towards the incapability of Hiruzen as a Hokage and as a mentor for Naruto. Well, I will tell you why he is incapable:
- He didn't stop de Kyuubi because, otherwise, all the point THE MANGA would have been pointless.
- He hasn't trained Naruto because, again, it's a plot flaw that was the premise for the Naruto character. How are we supposed to feel sad for the main character if he would have been raised by the village leader himself?
- He wasn't able to do anything with the Uchiha because, again, that's one of the major plot points. Same with Orochimaru.
There are more other subjects regarding this. People complain about Naruto not being the main character anymore, because Sasuke has a bit more panel than usual, about Kishimoto being sexist because 1 in 10 women in the manga has big breasts, about Madara not using his MS, about Nagato not reviving Yahiko (what's the point of his backstory then?
) and so on and so forth. What is even more funny is that people who try to put some deeper meaning to the plot and characters of Naruto don't even go through the end. For example, the side that claims that Naruto is a sexist manga, they only state that because there are no "kick ass" women, despite the fact that rather a big number of 1 women were kick ass in real life regarding any sorts of fighting. Or those that say how greatly developed Sasuke is, disregarding that he is a powerhorse with the personality of a brick.
That's why I said our mangaka is not a Shakespeare, or Dostoevsky. He can't fit everything right, and he doesn't want to. People need to remove their continuous idea that this is some sort of book that requires much intelligence for understanding.
Stop nitpicking, because the manga is flawed from point one. The whole deal about the ninjas - that's just a premise for the author to use magic powers. You can change the class and it's the same deal: pirate, alchemist, magician, psychic. There's nothing that even resembles a ninja's life in this manga (with very vague exceptions), so you're obviously analyzing the wrong art-piece.
If you have a problem with the amount of powers Naruto has, I have no problems. But don't accuse Kishimoto of bad writing because he's not creating a vast masterpiece in terms of storytelling.
edit: In case you are wondering, this thread is about discussing the over-focus we recently have regarding Naruto. How there is no real chapter that no is actually going to rant about. Do you agree with me or I'm the only user in here that isn't a literature critic?
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