Fantasy August Dragneel vs Diabolos Guild

[Seven777]

That is because of her own willpower or stamina. Yet he started face down just like anyone would when they are unconscious, again, in the same links for Gajeel, and with Jellal, shown with his stronger than before magic. why not? Because he wants too, he comes and goes as he feel, to likely sleep with any woman or just punch things up. He was stronger because he was not out of practice before and showed off his actual powers, no, he was simply surprised at how strong he got since last time as he was holding back, yet you make the claim that Gildarts is HDG level when showings confirms Spriggan level characters can harm Aldo with their power, you do since you are making such radical claims. I said that magic and nature are interchangeable, I don’t know how you came to that conclusion, not every magic is within a dragon’s immunity especially when it is common for Dragon Slayers to have human forms when they turn into Dragons, she eats air, not sky, confirmed in the manga, yes you did, as what I said is what is shown/stated in the manga.

Ok? If she can tank an attack she can tank and attack.
In short, there's no statement saying Jellal got stronger.
Well yeah, he was leaping on top of Lucy when he was teleported lmao.
Not seeing any of that as a reason for him not to have grown in strength.
Sure, if he's Kirrin tier then he simply scales above August. No different than Alvarez Jellal scaling above Mard Geer.
No spriggan has so much as scratched a dragon god.
I came to the conclusion because thats what you literally said lmao. Zeref transforming Eileen to a human wasn't magic. No, she eats sky, directly stated in the manga.

 

[WoWfan]

Ok? If she can tank an attack she can tank and attack.
In short, there's no statement saying Jellal got stronger.
Well yeah, he was leaping on top of Lucy when he was teleported lmao.
Not seeing any of that as a reason for him not to have grown in strength.
Sure, if he's Kirrin tier then he simply scales above August. No different than Alvarez Jellal scaling above Mard Geer.
No spriggan has so much as scratched a dragon god.
I came to the conclusion because thats what you literally said lmao. Zeref transforming Eileen to a human wasn't magic. No, she eats sky, directly stated in the manga.

tank as in endure it, not on durability, So? visually he did get stronger, and considering that he was with Meredy who developed her powers since x791, that would stand to reason he would be stronger too. no proof that they were still being attacked when they were teleported. It would, he was strong already, and he basically just goofed around during that time hoping for others to get stronger, If Kirin scales to Gildarts then he is below August, don't know what Jellal and Mard has to do with this, Brandish scales to Gigantify Gajeel who scratched a GD. I said that it is not like there wasn't science in FT to begin with as Magic and Nature and not different, she eats air, that is stated in the manga

 

[Crimson Ice]

He was getting old, and by definition means his skills are rusty, Brandish would harm Aldoron if she had DS attribute to her which was the only reason Gajeel was there, not for his stats. Prove that Gildarts got stronger, at least everyone else was stated to have gotten stronger.

Gildarts has been OLD! Current Gildarts is only two-three years older than Tenrou Gildarts biologically. And no, getting old doesn't mean you're rusty, don't use words you don't know. Gildarts can only be rusty if he hasn't been training or fighting. Are you dumb? The manga never goes out of its way to tell us the WHOLE guild got stronger but Gildarts. Everyone powered up; why would the guild's strongest member not improve? It was never stated Alverez Gildarts improved either? I guess August is only somewhat higher than Tenrou Gildarts and comparable to Hades since it wasn't said Gildarts was out training. Gildarts has consistently GROWN in proportion to his guildmates to maintain his status as the strongest (WHICH HE STILL HAS), but this time is the expectation? LMAOOO.

As for Brandish statement, that's headcanon.

 

[WoWfan]

Gildarts has been OLD! Current Gildarts is only two-three years older than Tenrou Gildarts biologically. And no, getting old doesn't mean you're rusty, don't use words you don't know. Gildarts can only be rusty if he hasn't been training or fighting. Are you dumb? The manga never goes out of its way to tell us the WHOLE guild got stronger but Gildarts. Everyone powered up; why would the guild's strongest member not improve? It was never stated Alverez Gildarts improved either? I guess August is only somewhat higher than Tenrou Gildarts and comparable to Hades since it wasn't said Gildarts was out training. Gildarts has consistently GROWN in proportion to his guildmates to maintain his status as the strongest (WHICH HE STILL HAS), but this time is the expectation? LMAOOO.

As for Brandish statement, that's headcanon.

Gildarts stated that he was getting old which is why he was rusty and fatigue, it basically did when it was stated multiple times that FT post x791 timeskip did get stronger apart from Gildarts & Makarov, because he was already strong then, even when he returned he was stated to not have changed in a good way because of how strong he is, he even stated as such, Nope, Hades would be somewhat below Mard Geer since Natsu fought against his powers And even weakened Laxus, again prove it, show that he did grow stronger for Alvarez, because if anything, it showed he did not use his full power since Tenrou as he had more powers yet to show. Nope, Gildarts & Natsu could not even cause Aldoron’s main body to flinch yet with Brandish’s power could.

 

[Seven777]

tank as in endure it, not on durability, So? visually he did get stronger, and considering that he was with Meredy who developed her powers since x791, that would stand to reason he would be stronger too. no proof that they were still being attacked when they were teleported. It would, he was strong already, and he basically just goofed around during that time hoping for others to get stronger, If Kirin scales to Gildarts then he is below August, don't know what Jellal and Mard has to do with this, Brandish scales to Gigantify Gajeel who scratched a GD. I said that it is not like there wasn't science in FT to begin with as Magic and Nature and not different, she eats air, that is stated in the manga

Call it whatever you like, it's all fanmade terms anyway. Erza takes attacks like a champ, in red pants and out.
Visually, everything he did that arc was less impressive than Sema. Well if Meredy gets stronger obviously everyone gets stronger... like Gildarts.
So? Natsu was diving to the ground when U1 got him. Why would he not be in that same position in the next chapter?
You just made that up. Gildarts is the kind of guy who'd take on a 100 YQ. He values his power.
Not how it works. Statements from the manga have Kirrin top tier, if current Gildarts scales to that he scales above August. Just like Jellal scales above Mard.
No, she doesn't. Base Gajeel beats Brandish. Base Natsu beats Brandish.
Haha, sure you did.

 

[WoWfan]

Call it whatever you like, it's all fanmade terms anyway. Erza takes attacks like a champ, in red pants and out.
Visually, everything he did that arc was less impressive than Sema. Well if Meredy gets stronger obviously everyone gets stronger... like Gildarts.
So? Natsu was diving to the ground when U1 got him. Why would he not be in that same position in the next chapter?
You just made that up. Gildarts is the kind of guy who'd take on a 100 YQ. He values his power.
Not how it works. Statements from the manga have Kirrin top tier, if current Gildarts scales to that he scales above August. Just like Jellal scales above Mard.
No, she doesn't. Base Gajeel beats Brandish. Base Natsu beats Brandish.
Haha, sure you did.

Difference between durability and stamina, but whatever, difference is made with how it is described. Not really as he basically no longer has to mark the sky with Grand Chariot and even caused the sky itself to clear out which would yield a higher result, unlike Gildarts. No, he was protecting Lucy and was shot up into the sky which would alter his position. 100 quest is not the same as having others grow stronger themselves, he values others power. Yet Gildarts showed lower feats than Brandish this sequel so Gildarts is still below. Base Gajeel loses to Brandish, just like Base Gajeel would lose to base Bloodman, yet FDK Nartsu weaker than base Gajeel by that comparison. Yeah, I did, thank you.

 

[Seven777]

Difference between durability and stamina, but whatever, difference is made with how it is described. Not really as he basically no longer has to mark the sky with Grand Chariot and even caused the sky itself to clear out which would yield a higher result, unlike Gildarts. No, he was protecting Lucy and was shot up into the sky which would alter his position. 100 quest is not the same as having others grow stronger themselves, he values others power. Yet Gildarts showed lower feats than Brandish this sequel so Gildarts is still below. Base Gajeel loses to Brandish, just like Base Gajeel would lose to base Bloodman, yet FDK Nartsu weaker than base Gajeel by that comparison. Yeah, I did, thank you.

How was it described? Quote it for me.
He didn't mark the sky against the Orecion Seis or even against Natsu either. Sema is also visually just more impressive too.
Show a panel of him being shot into the sky.
So? Why would others growing stronger mean he doesn't grow stronger?

Spoiler

https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628891/21

Base Natsu isn't just stronger than Brandish, he's orders of magnitudes above her.

 

[WoWfan]

How was it described? Quote it for me.
He didn't mark the sky against the Orecion Seis or even against Natsu either. Sema is also visually just more impressive too.
Show a panel of him being shot into the sky.
So? Why would others growing stronger mean he doesn't grow stronger?

Spoiler

https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628891/21

Base Natsu isn't just stronger than Brandish, he's orders of magnitudes above her.

quote wat? consideiring that in the GMG that it was required would make that fight with Natsu questionable, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628664/13, here is them flying upward, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628880/4, and considering Jellal flew around a a few times he would put the writing in the sky then https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628483, calculating the size of the impact, Sema would be weaker than Jellal’s atmosphere feat, Gildarts was already strong, case in point with despite Natsu’s growth, he was still intimidated by Gildarts‘ power, and yet she managed to affect him when he was prepared to fight her, and that Neinhart is physically weak. https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628892/3-2

 

[Seven777]

quote wat? consideiring that in the GMG that it was required would make that fight with Natsu questionable, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628664/13, here is them flying upward, https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628880/4, and considering Jellal flew around a a few times he would put the writing in the sky then https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628483, calculating the size of the impact, Sema would be weaker than Jellal’s atmosphere feat, Gildarts was already strong, case in point with despite Natsu’s growth, he was still intimidated by Gildarts‘ power, and yet she managed to affect him when he was prepared to fight her, and that Neinhart is physically weak. https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628892/3-2

The manga saying "the difference between durability and stamina" you were talking about.
Natsu's literally in the same position. Like I said, if he was in that position while he was being teleported, why would it be different afterward lmao?
He could have done that before showing up against Neinhart too. We didn't see so we don't know. Just like against Orecion Seis, Gears and Natsu.
Pulling down a meteor from space is weaker than that lol? I don't think so.
Yeah, so was Laxus, doesn't mean he can't get stronger. Natsu grew more than Laxus too.
Says who? He fucked Brandish, Natsu then fucked him easily. Brandish cheap shotting him afterward doesn't change that. It's like saying Mest>Brandish

 

[grey matter]

WTF am I reading here !!!!!!!



@Seven777 Your patience

 

[WoWfan]

The manga saying "the difference between durability and stamina" you were talking about.
Natsu's literally in the same position. Like I said, if he was in that position while he was being teleported, why would it be different afterward lmao?
He could have done that before showing up against Neinhart too. We didn't see so we don't know. Just like against Orecion Seis, Gears and Natsu.
Pulling down a meteor from space is weaker than that lol? I don't think so.
Yeah, so was Laxus, doesn't mean he can't get stronger. Natsu grew more than Laxus too.
Says who? He fucked Brandish, Natsu then fucked him easily. Brandish cheap shotting him afterward doesn't change that. It's like saying Mest>Brandish

I am talking about in general, even in the manga, it is stated that fire pants forsakes all defenses For power, he was not, he was sent flying with that attack as their body positions shifted, that’s not really how that works, why would he set that up right where Neinhart is and not use it before meeting up with Erza and Kagura? Also that’s not how it works, we don’t see the magic circles, but we do see is attack coming from the stars themselves. From the size of the small crater relative to Jellal, yeah, it is definitely weaker than parting the clouds and atmosphere, with Natsu he was flying around so he would set those magic circles up, with Orasion seis, they were confused when he set them up, we don’t know much about Gears fight to say. Differences, Laxus was stated to have trained, Gildarts didn’t. I doubt they had sex with either and/or both of the two, Natsu is just physically stronger than Neinhart, he did not cheap shot anything, not too was prepared to fight her, that is it, he had his guard up, otherwise if you claimed that Natsu was stronger then, his magic would be something, yet he was afraid of her power when thy first met.

 

[Seven777]

I am talking about in general, even in the manga, it is stated that fire pants forsakes all defenses For power, he was not, he was sent flying with that attack as their body positions shifted, that’s not really how that works, why would he set that up right where Neinhart is and not use it before meeting up with Erza and Kagura? Also that’s not how it works, we don’t see the magic circles, but we do see is attack coming from the stars themselves. From the size of the small crater relative to Jellal, yeah, it is definitely weaker than parting the clouds and atmosphere, with Natsu he was flying around so he would set those magic circles up, with Orasion seis, they were confused when he set them up, we don’t know much about Gears fight to say. Differences, Laxus was stated to have trained, Gildarts didn’t. I doubt they had sex with either and/or both of the two, Natsu is just physically stronger than Neinhart, he did not cheap shot anything, not too was prepared to fight her, that is it, he had his guard up, otherwise if you claimed that Natsu was stronger then, his magic would be something, yet he was afraid of her power when thy first met.

I'll keep this short and end this convo, since we're going around in circles.
Most people tank shit without armor to protect them, its normal
Natsu was awake and on top of Lucy on panel, youre guessing everything else. Besides if Natsu was K.Od by August, Lucy, Happy and Mest would all be dead.
Jellal wasn't stated to have trained though. Gildarts had new shit post-timeskip too.
No, there was sex. Neinhart fucked Brandish. Natsu fucked Neinhart.
Yeah, just like Mest mind raping Brandish. Neither won through a fight. Natsu was sneering at August, not intimidated in the slightest.

 

[WoWfan]

I'll keep this short and end this convo, since we're going around in circles.
Most people tank shit without armor to protect them, its normal
Natsu was awake and on top of Lucy on panel, youre guessing everything else. Besides if Natsu was K.Od by August, Lucy, Happy and Mest would all be dead.
Jellal wasn't stated to have trained though. Gildarts had new shit post-timeskip too.
No, there was sex. Neinhart fucked Brandish. Natsu fucked Neinhart.
Yeah, just like Mest mind raping Brandish. Neither won through a fight. Natsu was sneering at August, not intimidated in the slightest.

and usually in those cases where defense is gone is stamina, case in point, King from NNT who has 0 physical capabilities where he is easily hurt by a simply bump on the head or hurt his hand with hitting a piece of wood. Nothing showed that he was awake, he was shooting his head up in confusion and surprised long after the U1 spell finished, and even Mavis who was unconscious was awake before Natsu took into consideration anything happened, they were even trying to recall what happened, he said he nullified most of it so it wouldn't kill them. Show where they did it, Brandish was unaware, If she was, then it would not work as it is a weakness of mind related magic, he was just as nervous when they met up.

 

[Crimson Ice]

Gildarts stated that he was getting old which is why he was rusty and fatigue, it basically did when it was stated multiple times that FT post x791 timeskip did get stronger apart from Gildarts & Makarov, because he was already strong then, even when he returned he was stated to not have changed in a good way because of how strong he is, he even stated as such, Nope, Hades would be somewhat below Mard Geer since Natsu fought against his powers And even weakened Laxus, again prove it, show that he did grow stronger for Alvarez, because if anything, it showed he did not use his full power since Tenrou as he had more powers yet to show. Nope, Gildarts & Natsu could not even cause Aldoron’s main body to flinch yet with Brandish’s power could.

Ageing doesn't mean you're rusty, not fighting means you're rusty. Post the scan of him saying that, I'm curious. 791 Gildarts improved, the last time we saw him go all out he was struggling with Bluenote yet he can square up with August somewhat. Hades IS NOWHERE NEAR AUGUST AND THAT'S THE POINT! Boy you are dense. Show that he got stronger? Tenrou Gildarts struggled against Bluenote yet he beat Ghost Serena and was able to fight August, two people significantly stronger than Bluenote. 791x NATSU was able to casually one shot Bluenote yet according to you the Gildarts who struggled Bluenote was the same Gildarts who showed up in Alverez? The same Gildarts who was stated to be on the same level as GMG Jura is the same Gildarts that beat Ghost Serena?


That's not what happened genius. Brandish buffed Gajeel who hurt Aldoron, her power never directly interacted with Aldoron.

 

[Vex_Haid]

suzaku stans can cry all they want but that doesnt changes the fact that august or zeref still murderstomp the BDSK

seriously, why the fuck is this fodder guild wanked so hard?

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 15, 2021, Original Post Date: Dec 15, 2021 ---

Yep it's confirmed that Human Selene <<<<< August

August could single-handedly finish the 100 Year Quest all alone with Ars Magia

id say 1on1, dont see him beating the DGs 4v1 and thats only because of there cheap statement

 

[grey matter]

80% troll, 20% serious lol

So, 20% delusional

Any DG, human or dragon form, destroys August

 

[WoWfan]

Ageing doesn't mean you're rusty, not fighting means you're rusty. Post the scan of him saying that, I'm curious. 791 Gildarts improved, the last time we saw him go all out he was struggling with Bluenote yet he can square up with August somewhat. Hades IS NOWHERE NEAR AUGUST AND THAT'S THE POINT! Boy you are dense. Show that he got stronger? Tenrou Gildarts struggled against Bluenote yet he beat Ghost Serena and was able to fight August, two people significantly stronger than Bluenote. 791x NATSU was able to casually one shot Bluenote yet according to you the Gildarts who struggled Bluenote was the same Gildarts who showed up in Alverez? The same Gildarts who was stated to be on the same level as GMG Jura is the same Gildarts that beat Ghost Serena?


That's not what happened genius. Brandish buffed Gajeel who hurt Aldoron, her power never directly interacted with Aldoron.

Which in the fight shows that age does affect his performance. https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628631/1, he may have not gotten rusty compared to 791, but improved no, considering he still had spells existing that he didn’t use against others since then, again, was rusty, against August he wasn’t, even then it was one sided in August’s favor. then don’t know why Hades is brought up then, Gildarts was not at his best then, and when he got back, he had more spells before Alvarez and didn’t use them, he slightly struggled against a 1/3 GS, August was more trying not to die, Natsu got stronger, but Gildarts was already strong then, not stated to be same level, just a good match by Makarov’s opinion. Power buffing is the same as affecting another in the sense that it can affect them, so in retrospect, Brandish would affect Aldaron with power stat alteration on herself or another.

 

[Axiomus]

Diabolos is stronger than FT.

BDSK have consistently stomped Erza/Laxus/Natsu tiers. Even if the BDSK are all Gildarts tier, that just means Gildarts has massively surpassed everyone else in FT. The BDSK outnumber Gildarts 4 to 1, which means makes Diabolos stronger than FT.

August isn't soloing FT. A combination of Erza, Wendy, and Natsu would destroy him. Wendy enchants all of Natsu's power into Erza's sword, and it's over. That same combo gets wrecked by Suzaku, Kirin, or Haku. Pick one.

 

[WoWfan]

consistently? the only value they have is the BDKs which they have yet to even put down someone as strong as Laxus, and Gildarts is too strong for the sequel. August would solo FT with any variety of spells, even one shot Natsu and co in their encounter with a fire spell.

 

[Vex_Haid]

August still murders