No, no one ever makes any caviats that they are only ever equal when Eileen is human, when you say two characters are comparable you aren't comparing one in their weakest form and one in their strongest, you compare both at their strongest. Besides, Mashima had August state himself that he is the most powerful spriggan, and that was after Eileen revealed her dragon form, but we already knew this from so many other factors, like all the editor notes, him being chosen as her superior, the fact that he was last to go down and that he was the one to face Gildarts, the strongest member of FT. Eileen in her dragon form is weaker than August.
We literally see it shatter.
Just like Cana originally needed to be given Fairy Glitter, and Gray originally needed to be given DeS magic. The power is theirs now, all theirs, so he can copy it. And no, neither are a requirement, as seen by Elsferia.
Cana does have the tattoo against August, she does have it against Mavis, and she does have it now. The spell also isn't a one time use, even after Cana used it on Bluenote, Bluenote could still take it off her.
He was confirmed to copy Natsu's DS magic by Gildarts. I didn't say Cobra's sound magic was DS magic, just that August probably copied his DS magic too, since no one in Crime Sorciere could scratch August, including Cobra, and no one figured out his weakness through Cobra either. August's comment about God Serena being with him, and a little glow probably means he has his magic.
It did work in the end, but we have no idea why that's the case lol.
No, August by default is assumed as a DS because he has faced DS before. It being confirmed by GIldarts just sets it in stone. As for every DS being noted as a DS, thats only if it a main part of their powers. I mean Neinhart is technically a God Slayer, and a DS too, but no one noted that, because thats not his true magic, same with Bloodman technically being a Devil Slayer.
Sorry
But the comparison was made when irene was human. By people who knew nothing of irene. This include people like mavis and mira.
Editor notes doesnt mean much. They are meant for cliff hangers and stuffs. Irene said her deus sema will wipe out everyone in the battle field, including laxus and gildarts. Bet you dont believe that. Nor ajeel laughing at august statement, character hyping them selves means nothing.
I am also guessing you believe koyoka will easily take out silver, after all she lost after silver lost and was the leader
Extreme pof erza is above gildarts just like pof natsu vs zeref one.
Its literally like looking at natsu and gajeel and saying they are equal. And then we have to by default assume gajeel is equal to df natsu
They are said to be equal. Thats cannon.
If august is stronger, than he is barely stronger. Means he beats irene and happy beats August.
And finally dont turn the entire fairy tail on its head just because of erza.
Base dragon slayer << dragon force << dragon
August copies DS.
He becomes base dragon slayer
He is not matching full dragon whose base mp he is equal to
August most likely has DS magic. if he doesn't then you may argue Irene >>> August since not even August or Gildarts can hurt a dragon without DS magic.
he most likely have it.
he went around the world copying magic so he most likely got DS one as well.
hell, I hate August since he is just a copy cat and the fact that he is the offspring of Zeref and Mavis and how he is stupid asf but he is too hax for anybody.
did you know that I didn't even read a chapter about his backstory even to this day
Lol
His chances of having ds is pretty much equal to irene enchanting august magic right out his body, or turning gildarts into a rat.
Dont give character feats which they donot have
Beside that still means base dragon slayer vs full dragon
Sorry
But the comparison was made when irene was human. By people who knew nothing of irene. This include people like mavis and mira.
Editor notes doesnt mean much. They are meant for cliff hangers and stuffs. Irene said her deus sema will wipe out everyone in the battle field, including laxus and gildarts. Bet you dont believe that. Nor ajeel laughing at august statement, character hyping them selves means nothing.
I am also guessing you believe koyoka will easily take out silver, after all she lost after silver lost and was the leader
Extreme pof erza is above gildarts just like pof natsu vs zeref one.
Its literally like looking at natsu and gajeel and saying they are equal. And then we have to by default assume gajeel is equal to df natsu
They are said to be equal. Thats cannon.
If august is stronger, than he is barely stronger. Means he beats irene and happy beats August.
And finally dont turn the entire fairy tail on its head just because of erza.
Base dragon slayer << dragon force << dragon
August copies DS.
He becomes base dragon slayer
He is not matching full dragon whose base mp he is equal to
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His chances of having ds is pretty much equal to irene enchanting august magic right out his body, or turning gildarts into a rat.
Dont give character feats which they donot have
Beside that still means base dragon slayer vs full dragon
Not really, even after Eileen went dragon August is acknowledged as the most powerful spriggan.
Editor notes just contribute to all those other factors. Individually I wouldn't buy them, but cumulatively it's pretty clear what the manga is saying.
August is more objective and reliable than Ajeel. As for Deus Sema, Gildarts wasn't on the battlefield by that point, and Erza was prob more referring to Wendy and the nameless fodders the panel showed. Deus Sema might've killed Laxus if it hit him considering Erza thought it would kill her too, but Laxus and Gildarts could obviously break it as she did since they're both stronger than her.
Gildarts is stronger than Erza. Even 100YQ Gildarts is still stronger than a much stronger Erza. PoF Natsu against Zeref used the power of the guild.
Silver beats Kyoka with DeS advantage, but in general yes, Kyoka is stronger. Silver is Gray tier, Kyoka is Erza tier.
Stop whining about Erza. August as a human is Dragon Eileen's match/superior without DS magic, with it he massacres her.
August has the feats of DS.
Why not tho. It's been mentioned over and over again that he's mastered close to every magic type there is. Even if we assume he doesn't have DS, he could have some crazy non ds spells, like Fairy Law, Crush, and other stuff. He's the strongest human mage in the entire series, I highly doubt he can't put any damage on any dragon.
During Tartaros they weren't fodder, individually no one came close to Mard Geer lvl, but they were still able to damage him. Same as the other demons
Why not tho. It's been mentioned over and over again that he's mastered close to every magic type there is. Even if we assume he doesn't have DS, he could have some crazy non ds spells, like Fairy Law, Crush, and other stuff. He's the strongest human mage in the entire series, I highly doubt he can't put any damage on any dragon.
But that leaves doubt. We dont know what spells those were
Cana reacted in a sense that she raised her arm to defend. That doesnt help cana much, but she did try to defend, see her arms after tye blitz. Melt doesnt look like serena magic, glowing body while blitzing doesnt neccessary have to be meteor. Soooo
While you are right in that we have no official confirmation that August copied Serena/Meteor - if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, its probably a duck.
As for Melt not looking like Serena's Magic, in shape I agree but the flames look exactly the same and its shown in the background when Gildarts figures out that August copies and nullifies Magic. There's also the weird comment about God Serena still being with him. All of this might not be outright confirmation, but it heavily suggests that Melt is DS Magic.
August's 'Meteor' is a stranger case. It does the same thing as Meteor and looks exactly the same but its just coloured differently.
Can anyone else confirm if any of August's other copied spells change colour? I can't remember any other instance of this.
Bruh, I'm the biggest wanker of MBPs on this site but Levy survived a battle where she was constantly being exposed to them...
And while its true he can't copy Curses, he doesn't really need to. Melt could one-shot everyone aside from Mard and maybe Silver/Kyouka. The only scenario I can see August losing in is if he doesn't get serious and lets Mard cast Memento Mori, but that's ridiculously unlikely IMO. Outside of that their attacks shouldn't scratch him, this is the same guy that got attacked by Alvarez Gildarts' strongest spell and only suffered a bloody lip, and that's at worst since in the anime he doesn't even have that lol.
Bruh, I'm the biggest wanker of MBPs on this site but Levy survived a battle where she was constantly being exposed to them...
And while its true he can't copy Curses, he doesn't really need to. Melt could one-shot everyone aside from Mard and maybe Silver/Kyouka. The only scenario I can see August losing in is if he doesn't get serious and lets Mard cast Memento Mori, but that's ridiculously unlikely IMO. Outside of that their attacks shouldn't scratch him, this is the same guy that got attacked by Alvarez Gildarts' strongest spell and only suffered a bloody lip.
They aren't immune to magic. What they are, is heavily resistant to it. Meaning they can still be hurt by it but the effect of it is heavily reduced.
Also, why can't August copy Curses? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly but aren't Curses basically Magic that stems from negative emotions? The Etherious were made from Ether itself (as said so by Zeref in chapter 436) which is what makes up all Magic afaik.
And even if he can't, it doesn't really change a thing. Just because he can't copy someone's magic doesn't mean its an automatic loss, lol.