Fantasy August vs Irene

[Crimson Ice]

August still wins....Yeah Irene is not looking overly impressive.

 

[Seven777]

Let's be fair to CS, we didn't actually get to see their performance because it was off-panelled. I'm certainly going with August >> Irene right now. Irene has been crap so far.

True enough, but even without seeing how they did, not scratching August or pushing him even a little<<chopping up Eileen's beloved hat(and damaging her and stuff). Unless of course August>>Eileen as you said, which i'm also leaning towards.

 

[Takuan]

Irene has been so underwhelming this is ridiculous. At this point i'd say August beats her fairly easily. Like low diff.
Maybe i'll let her the benefit of the doubt and assume her magic has a lot of variety but isn't suited to combat. Otherwise it's just Irene who sucks at fighting. Anyway, right after the so called "trump card versus Acno" gets defeated by Sting, now even Irene is mediocre. All my hopes are on August. AT this point i just can't picture him as equal to Irene anymore.

 

[Seven777]

Could be Eileen is like a Wendy, good for support.
Or maybe she is only August level when in her dragon form.

 

[Brandish μ]

Could be Eileen is like a Wendy, good for support.
Or maybe she is only August level when in her dragon form.

I think that is certainly possible, a few people have stated that before. I still see enchantments being good for battle, just like with Acnologia. But perhaps for high level enchantments, they might require time. August with his many weapons probably can use quick fire spells, which would be much better for battle.

Her magic power is August level. Her skills as an enchanter make her comparable. If she can dragonise, she's >> August.

 

[Nemispelled]

Could be Eileen is like a Wendy, good for support.
Or maybe she is only August level when in her dragon form.

While I agree that Irene might be only good for support...

It would defeat the purpose where Brandish told FT that "Irene is like the strongest female near August's level"... because frankly, how can a support be almost on par with the strongest warrior/combatant wizard?

That's like saying Warrod = Gray because Warrod is a really good support mage...

 

[Laxus chan-yo]

^^She IS dragonized already. Zeref just hid that fact.

Why do you think she was so jealous of Wendy? Because Grandine prevented that from happening to her.

 

[Brandish μ]

^^She IS dragonized already. Zeref just hid that fact.

Why do you think she was so jealous of Wendy? Because Grandine prevented that from happening to her.

Yes she just needs to undo what Zeref did, if she can dragonise, she beats August without doubt.

 

[The President]

Yeah August destroys Irene w/only enchantments. Before I said Mid-Diff was safe but honestly given the decent performance that Erza and Wendy had against her I might even drop it to low-diff, maybe low-mid diff. August had far less difficulty against an overall stronger group of opponents (I'd argue Jellal alone is more deadly then Erza + Wendy combined).

If Irene gets to dragonize its a different story.

 

[Mohsen]

Yeah August destroys Irene w/only enchantments. Before I said Mid-Diff was safe but honestly given the decent performance that Erza and Wendy had against her I might even drop it to low-diff, maybe low-mid diff. August had far less difficulty against an overall stronger group of opponents (I'd argue Jellal alone is more deadly then Erza + Wendy combined).

If Irene gets to dragonize its a different story.

Isn't Eileen still a dragon but only outwardly Zeref created an illusion that let's her look like a human? If yes then her power level won't change.

 

[Seven777]

While I agree that Irene might be only good for support...

It would defeat the purpose where Brandish told FT that "Irene is like the strongest female near August's level"... because frankly, how can a support be almost on par with the strongest warrior/combatant wizard?

That's like saying Warrod = Gray because Warrod is a really good support mage...

Well everyone would still say Warrod>>GMG Gray despite Warrod having very little combat ability, so maybe Eileen=August is the same thing. You can be strong without being combat oriented, maybe.

Yes she just needs to undo what Zeref did, if she can dragonise, she beats August without doubt.

If she can, somehow i doubt she has the skill considering the hundreds of years of failure

 

[Demon Hunter]

August takes this with low - mid diff.

he was having a field day with Jellal+OS while enraged Irene couldn't do anything to Erza and 14 year old kid. heck, her power somewhat decreased when she entered Wendy's body

 

[SirSamuel016]

Isn't Eileen still a dragon but only outwardly Zeref created an illusion that let's her look like a human? If yes then her power level won't change.

Yes, Irene is still a dragon. It's merely her appearance that's human.

Right now going from what we've seen of Irene's fight so far, I think it'd be a mid-high diff win for August. I think people are being a bit harsh on Irene when it comes to getting attacked by Wendy and Erza, I mean you've got a dragon that's been hit by a dragon slayer in dragon force and then Erza has hit right where Wendy softened her up, so it's not too hard to believe she got injured there. It's also important to note that Erza was enchanted by Wendy to be stronger, so that's a factor too. But back to this fight, seeing August is said to be stronger than a Dragon the Spriggans have on their side, he takes it out mid-high diff. His vast knowledge of magic should definitely see him through.

 

[Nemispelled]

Well everyone would still say Warrod>>GMG Gray despite Warrod having very little combat ability, so maybe Eileen=August is the same thing. You can be strong without being combat oriented, maybe.

Well, I was talking about Current Gray. Saying that Irene is a good support mage, and therefore is on August's level would be like saying:

Warrd is a good support mage, and therefore is on Current Gray's level... which is clearly not the case.

 

[Seven777]

Well, I was talking about Current Gray. Saying that Irene is a good support mage, and therefore is on August's level would be like saying:

Warrd is a good support mage, and therefore is on Current Gray's level... which is clearly not the case.

For us readers to say that, yeah, it would be weird. But for a character in the manga to say it? Not so strange, Warrod is stated to be stronger than Jura, but combat wise he is still weaker

 

[Jko]

Yes, Irene is still a dragon. It's merely her appearance that's human.

Right now going from what we've seen of Irene's fight so far, I think it'd be a mid-high diff win for August. I think people are being a bit harsh on Irene when it comes to getting attacked by Wendy and Erza, I mean you've got a dragon that's been hit by a dragon slayer in dragon force and then Erza has hit right where Wendy softened her up, so it's not too hard to believe she got injured there. It's also important to note that Erza was enchanted by Wendy to be stronger, so that's a factor too. But back to this fight, seeing August is said to be stronger than a Dragon the Spriggans have on their side, he takes it out mid-high diff. His vast knowledge of magic should definitely see him through.

He wasn't stated to be stronger tho. Brandish said they are on the exact same level. This fight should be no less than extreme diff either way as they've stated no one knows who'll come out on top.

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Its either August>Eileen, or Erza+Wendy>Crime Sorciere. Cause Erza and Wendy's performance shits all over Crime Sorciere's.

Just compare the OS vs August to Wendy vs Eileen. The OS attacks August but are easily countered and overpowered by Augusts superior mastery over their magic, but when Wendy enchants Erza and Eileen tries to pull an August to counter it with her superior mastery, Wendy just counters that bitch right back.
Then we have Jellal helplessly getting floored by August's casual Reflection, and Erza dodging Eileen's casual explosions and cutting up some hats.

Someone here has to suck, and im not sure who it is.

Crime Sorcerie sucks more. Irene thought Juliet and Heine could handle them alone and they had no solid feats remotely as good as Wendy. She has some amazing feats in this arc. She oneshotted a 9D while half dead, healed a fatal injury, had sense perceptions way above Tartarus Natsu level, Enchantments buffs are more shined on, and she has great reaction and speed feats. Sorano's best feat is shaking her booty lol.

 

[Brandish μ]

If she can, somehow i doubt she has the skill considering the hundreds of years of failure

To be fair, Zeref could have taught her. I mean she acknowledged how much of a genius Zeref is. August is probably of similar ilk (to Zeref for magic).

Though I can say Irene may never wanted to be a dragon ever again, so seeking the magic to reverse the transformation is something she might never have contemplated. So I won't use 'dragonising' as an argument, since it's not shown she'll do it.

So, August with high difficulty.

 

[**Silver**]

August wins Low-medium difficulty..

 

[Ice devil slayer]

August stomps her so hard

 

[Xaos sama]

Wow, people really underestimate OS so much, even though by Irene's own words they were the strongest group in the north as she stated they may prove to be tad troublesome.

Spoiler

they didn't show any new feats but they have hype on their side.