Final August vs Irene

[inactive lurker account]

LOL you are right!!! i never thought it before!
Why August decided to use suicidal spell?? Did he really out of option?? if August really out of MP for only 2 fights, can i assume Irene has more MP than August.... because she was using multiple S Class magics and she's still fine.

But if August wasn't out of MP, so my reason why he decided to use Ars Magia is because he think he can't win.
Yes, August has immense magic power, but he is <100 years old human, maybe because he is too old he become weaker in mele combat...so when Gildarts try to fight him with mele combat, August give up and decided to use suicidal spell because he think he can't win. That's why in the manga it never showed he resist mele attacks, he only resisted magical attacks....

This way dragon Irene has a big chance of winning, because her most powerfull attack is her hand stomp and hand swing....

He was shown to hold his own against Gildarts' punches though. It was just after taking that one magic-imbued punch from Gildarts' mechanical arm that made August decide to use the spell, and even then it's not really clear if he was even severely damaged at that point.

One can say that perhaps Acnologia's return made August resort to more desperate moves, but this only goes to show that Hiro is at fault for not unleashing August earlier on, and having him wait on standby with just a few off-panel achievements until his other comrades are defeated. I find it scandalous to say the least that he wasn't even given the chance to command troops as befits his rank in the empire.

What made the whole ending even more frustrating is that at that point, even if August can still win after a few spells, he really didn't even need to bother with a weakened Gildarts and a weak Cana. He could have just walked away, proceed to take out a bunch of weaker mages, return to Zeref's side or distract Acnologia, and so on...

 

[Seven777]

She blitzed Erza before Dragon form. She also reacted Acnologia's attack. August has been shown to be in the same tier of speed as Gild. Nothing is suggesting a blitz from August. Dragons are also the fast creatures in the verse and Irene has teleportation.

Eileen never blitzed Erza.
Reacting to casual Acnologia is nothing special, Jellal did it easily. Who utterly stomped Jellal and 4 other wizards again?
Eileen has been shown to be on the same speed tier as Erza.
Base August is already as fast as Eileen, add in Meteor and he blitzes hard, add in Slow and he blitzes harder, add in Sound/Telepathy and all hope of Eileen keeping up with August vanishes.
August is faster than Eileen and he can predict every move she makes, there is no way Eileen is landing a single hit on August, and even if she could August could easily block it with his barrier.

Even without DS magic, all August needs to do to win is Crash Eileen into a bunch of little pieces and then nuke the pieces with Fairy Glitter. A Grand Fairy Spell in the hands of someone like August would be unstoppable.

 

[Valhalla]

Uh... Am I the only one who noticed that Melt didn't even damage Happy

Thats because the "pink haired god of destruction" blocked the part of the blast aimed at them + Irene transported them away from the blast with Universe One at the same time.

 

[Enima]

Thats because the "pink haired god of destruction" blocked the part of the blast aimed at them + Irene transported them away from the blast with Universe One at the same time.

Well... Even if it was a half powered attack, if he couldn't one shot a cat, then I don't see how he could damage a dragon.

 

[inactive lurker account]

I just noticed something. Remember when August disabled the magic radar? But it was magic channeled through a device, right? It's frustrating that he disabled some sort of holder magic from a distance and without even transforming into his red form, but he didn't do something similar to Cana's cards... WHY

And there's the off-panel conquest of Bosco to think about. I still don't quite get how the eastern team even got there without teleportation or worse, circumnavigating and passing through and conquering the other countries, since the empire's continent is supposed to be to the west of Ishgar

All in all I'm really bothered, and this final round is making me revisit these details that show how the magic king was utterly wasted in the end

 

[Valhalla]

Well... Even if it was a half powered attack, if he couldn't one shot a cat, then I don't see how he could damage a dragon.

What part of my previous post did you not understand. Its like you didnt even read it or the post before that one. Even in my previous previous post i said August would go Melt on human Irene (before she transforms) or her Deus Sema, i never said it could damage her in dragon form. As for Happy surviving and not being one-shot read my previous post again.
p.s. Mashima already established that Happy is god tier. He survived a nuke in Tartaros arc, and all he got was an afro

 

[Takuan]

She blitzed Erza before Dragon form. She also reacted Acnologia's attack. August has been shown to be in the same tier of speed as Gild. Nothing is suggesting a blitz from August. Dragons are also the fast creatures in the verse and Irene has teleportation.

Basically, what @Seven777 said. Acno was toying around, and i don't remember Irene blitzing Erza before Dragon form (though i'll admit, my memory is bad so i can just have forgotten).
What do you mean Irene has teleportation? Where has it been shown?

 

[Stormsfury]

I can see many people voting for Irene because they like her, not too many people bringing up a logical argument here. August's ability was that he could copy any type of magic except for holder type, which means he can copy dragon slayer magic.
Irene has shown pretty piss poor durability and endurance so far, a swing from Erza's sword that was enhanced with a bit of Wendy's dragon slayer magic absolutely wrecked her so I cannot for the life of me see why people are voting for her, it makes no sense.

Also even if August didn't have any of Irene's dragon slayer abilities, he's still got so many others to choose from, he can stop time like Dimaria, crash Irene's body or negate it like Gildarts or cause her to swell up and blow up from the inside using Brandish's abilities.
August is basically invincible and that's why Hiro had him commit suicide, he just copies, negates and exploits Irene's abilities, laughing all the way to the bank, August takes this mid-diff, I cannot see Irene winning in any way shape or form.

Edit: Also if the main argument is Irene can turn into a dragon (and in your opinion August can't use Dragon Slaying Magic to harm her), August can just change her back into a human or some other animal using her own ability like what she used against the dumb princess.

Edit: Now I'm just listing off all the crazy things August can do...
1. (Jellal + Racer) Slow down time around him while keeping his movement speed up like Racer, imagine him slowing down Irene's time using Racer's magic then enhancing his own speed with Meteor , that sounds like the most OP combo ever, ain't no way Irene is touching him, not in a million years, he can strike her or hit her with sooooo many spells and she couldn't even respond

2. Midnight's illusions

3. Sand World so she can't actually see him or strike him

4. Invel's armour so he can freeze her
5. Jacobs Transport, clap his hands and she goes away
6. Larcades orgasm ability

There's even more but I can't be bothered lol......
Yeah August ruins Irene. August mid-diff and that's generous.

 

[Takuan]

And also, before people saying "August doesn't have Age Seal or Mass Manipulation because he's never shown that blabla", there's one hax that he has for sure: Larcade's sex magic. He successfully negated it (hence why people thought for a while that August was a virgin), so he can use it against Irene (and we've seen that weakened her and her spells).

 

[Jko]

Eileen never blitzed Erza.
Reacting to casual Acnologia is nothing special, Jellal did it easily. Who utterly stomped Jellal and 4 other wizards again?
Eileen has been shown to be on the same speed tier as Erza.
Base August is already as fast as Eileen, add in Meteor and he blitzes hard, add in Slow and he blitzes harder, add in Sound/Telepathy and all hope of Eileen keeping up with August vanishes.
August is faster than Eileen and he can predict every move she makes, there is no way Eileen is landing a single hit on August, and even if she could August could easily block it with his barrier.

Even without DS magic, all August needs to do to win is Crash Eileen into a bunch of little pieces and then nuke the pieces with Fairy Glitter. A Grand Fairy Spell in the hands of someone like August would be unstoppable.

Basically, what @Seven777 said. Acno was toying around, and i don't remember Irene blitzing Erza before Dragon form (though i'll admit, my memory is bad so i can just have forgotten).
What do you mean Irene has teleportation? Where has it been shown?

Acno felt her MP and praised her. At the beginning of the fight he asked if she would give him a moment of fun, which shows he was going to end her fast if she was weak. I doubt he wasn't at least using as much force as he did when blitzed past and oneshotted Serena.

@Seven777 Base August is not as fast as Irene. Acno blitzed past him before he could blink and he couldn't react to Brandish knife stabbing him despite her stabbing him from the front.

I posted this earlier. Irene casually blitzes Erza before she can even take a step. Erza doesn't even perceive her movement let alone react to it.

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@Takuan She teleported Erza's blade from her stomach to her hand.

Dragon Scales negate Crash therefore it is useless. Dead Dragon Scales negated death magic, and you think Gild's Crash magic is going to break it? Lol c'mon now. Dragon Scales can not be penetrated by any magic but DS magic.

Dragons are the fastest beings in the verse. They are even above exceeds in speed and exceed's speed has shown to be faster than Meteor. Time Dilation won't work on her due to Dragon Scales. And Irene's senses are way better than August. Dude couldn't even sense where Acno was while Irene easily could track him. She also has Dragon senses as well.

Irene instantly goes from the Castle, which was located inland of the country, to Mira who was on the outskirts of the country.

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She also goes from Northern Fiore to Eastern Fiore to fight Acno. It took her seconds to no more than minutes to get to Acno.

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Even FT mages had to take a day to get to Hargeon, and she went a further distance in less than 0.7% of the time it took Team FT South to get to Hargeon. Irene is insanely fast, and she should be since she is a Dragon, and Dragons can easily cross a super continent within seconds.

 

[Valhalla]

She also goes from Northern Fiore to Eastern Fiore to fight Acno. It took her seconds to no more than minutes to get to Acno.

Even FT mages had to take a day to get to Hargeon, and she went a further distance in less than 0.7% of the time it took Team South FT to get to Hargeon. Irene is insanely fast, and she should be since she is a Dragon, and Dragons can easily cross a super continent within seconds.

What??

 

[Kiki]

Isn't it because Irene can fly?

 

[Jko]

What??

It's called math. 10 minutes or less is less than 0.7% of a day. There's a 1440 minutes in a day she took way less than 10, and she went a further distance. You get the gist of it anyways.

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Isn't it because Irene can fly?

Yep. Her flight gives her pretty high speed feats.

 

[Valhalla]

It's called math. 10 minutes or less is less than 0.7% of a day. There's a 1440 minutes in a day she took way less than 10, and she went a further distance.

I study math, but thats not what i meant. Since when did Irene go to the eastern front to fight Acnologia? The fight happend in the north. What are you talking about ...

 

[Enima]

What part of my previous post did you not understand. Its like you didnt even read it or the post before that one. Even in my previous previous post i said August would go Melt on human Irene (before she transforms) or her Deus Sema, i never said it could damage her in dragon form. As for Happy surviving and not being one-shot read my previous post again.
p.s. Mashima already established that Happy is god tier. He survived a nuke in Tartaros arc, and all he got was an afro

Uh..... yeah. How can August damage human Irene or deus sema with an attack that couldn't one shot lucy (forget happy)

 

[Jko]

I study math, but thats not what i meant. Since when did Irene go to the eastern front to fight Acnologia? The fight happend in the north. What are you talking about ...

Oh, okay. Acnologia was last seen in the East, and made no indication of going North. He was pretty much sitting down and doing nothing after Serena's death.

 

[Valhalla]

Oh, okay. Acnologia was last seen in the East, and made no indication of going North. He was pretty much sitting down and doing nothing after Serena's death.

No, he went to the north and it took him hours. It was sunset when he killed Serena, and it was dead night when he reached the North. Irene straight up said that Acnologia is coming to the north. Otherwise Irene would have met August and Jacob, dead Serena, and half dead GOI

Uh..... yeah. How can August damage human Irene or deus sema with an attack that couldn't one shot lucy (forget happy)

Your trolling me right lol

 

[Jko]

No, he went to the north and it took him hours. It was sunset when he killed Serena, and it was dead night when he reached the North. Irene straight up said that Acnologia is coming to the north. Otherwise Irene would have met August and Jacob, dead Serena, and half dead GOI



Your trolling me right lol

Actually he went the way August and co came from which is further down east to Bosco. Why would he be sitting down if there were DS in his vicinity?

And "He is coming to North" means he wasn't in the North from the get go. It would only take Acno seconds to get there from anywhere in the country.

August closer to the guild and Jacob was at the guild so she wouldn't of met them.

 

[Stormsfury]

August combines Jellal's Meteor with Racer's ability of slowing down everyone's time, Cobra's ability to hear (predict) people's attacks and Irene can't touch him. Pretty straight forward abilities but when combined make for some OP showings.
Might as well call him MC Hammer

 

[Jko]

Meteor is weak offensively, and isn't anywhere near the speed of a Dragon. Time Dilation isn't going to help with someone who has superior stats and Dragon Resistance. Lol August has no ways to harm Irene while Irene has multiple ways to kill him.

August doesn't have DS magic therefore he dies. Irene can beat him physically or turn her magic into holder magic by just imbueing it into an object. August can't win against a Dragon especially one that can counter his main magic easily.