Canon Base Luffy vs Zoro

Who wins?

  • Luffy Extreme Diff

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  • Luffy Mid Diff

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  • Tie

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  • Zoro Mid Diff

    Votes: 7 58.3%
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    Votes: 2 16.7%

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Pirate Queen

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Mihawk would have cut his arms off, Cracker would have killed him if it wasnt for Nami...

Which nonfodder opponents with swords did he win against?



I believe he is referring to:




quite a stretch but legit
Luffy struggling against the WSS is not a counter point. Luffy absorbed Crackers meito, making it useless.
 

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Marineford Luffy using CoO to avoid an attack from the WSS is seen as "Mihawk could have cut his arm off".

Luffy now has FS but swordsmen are a problem...
 

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Which swordsman has Luffy struggled against? He has fought opponents with bladed weapons and won.
No, Luffys rubber abilities are as strong as they are because Luffy had to train his base body. The Gomu Gomu without much physical training is useless.
Your second paragraph... :kappa
He didnt struggle against swordsmen because he didnt fight a single master swordsman in 22 years. That says enough.
Sure, he trained. Did he train more than Zoro who has been lifting weights since his childhood until time skip? Not even close. DF is what saves him.
Zoro is cutting Kaido for sure, that is testament of his CoA. Being just better than Luffy's, who has shitty Hardening, would not be enough.

How did the FS work out for Katakuri? How did it work for Luffy against Kaido? :kappa
 

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Just read the OP, Luffy no gears? Zoro wins. Luffy would need to tag Zoro inorder to do any damage while also avoiding his bits getting chopped off. You need speed for that and im not sure if base Luffy is as fast as G2 Luffy.
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He didnt struggle against swordsmen because he didnt fight a single master swordsman in 22 years. That says enough.
Yes he hasn't fought swordmasters because he has a swordsman who is aspiring to be WSS in his crew. The ones he has fought he did not lose against.

testament of his CoA.
Enma


How did the FS work out for Katakuri? How did it work for Luffy against Kaido? :kappa
Worked out great for Katakuri for like... 30 years.

CoO requires calmness :kappa
 

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The ones he has fought he did not lose against.
He literally fought 0 swordmasters.
Nothing to do with his CoA. Enma spends the money, the one who makes the money is Zoro. He has been spending huge amounts of flow before he came to Wano - splitting a mountain. Wano examples of coast slices arent nowhere close to mountain splitting.
CoO requires calmness :kappa
Luffy, the personification of calmness. :toc
 

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Bruh, when? I need a chapter to see for myself because Luffy never said that.

Wtf hahahahaha
He said he was weak to slashing and stabbing vs Enel

He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk

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Are you guys even following this story???????????????
 

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He said he was weak to slashing and stabbing vs Enel

He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk

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Are you guys even following this story???????????????
Funny, cant read that anywhere. Your making shit up again, maybe? Provide panels.
 

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Funny, cant read that anywhere. Your making shit up again, maybe? Provide panels.
Again with this song?
Not my problem you havent been following the story!
 

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Again with this song?
Not my problem you havent been following the story!
Dude your making shit up. You cant back up anything you say. I can.

The only thing you said right was that Enel realized he could hit Luffy by cutting him. That's it. And Enel said it, Luffy didn't.

No where does Luffy say he would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become the WSS unless you read a chapter with a bad translation or I missed something glaringly obvious which I will take responsibility for.

You cannot back up your claims because again you are making shit up
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In fact, here. To prove you wrong... this is what you are referring to... it is in fact ZORO who says it. Not Luffy.
 

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Dude your making shit up. You cant back up anything you say. I can.

The only thing you said right was that Enel realized he could hit Luffy by cutting him. That's it. And Enel said it, Luffy didn't.

No where does Luffy say he would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become the WSS unless you read a chapter with a bad translation or I missed something glaringly obvious which I will take responsibility for.

You cannot back up your claims because again you are making shit up
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In fact, here. To prove you wrong... this is what you are referring to... it is in fact ZORO who says it. Not Luffy.
Clearly using a translating thats starts of with "Rufi" is your first mistake.
Why would you even bother using such a trash translation to say im wrong?
Go find a decent translation and see the error of your ways

P>S Zoro says it and Luffy not "Rufi" agrees to it!
 

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Clearly using a translating thats starts of with "Rufi" is your first mistake.
Why would you even bother using such a trash translation to say im wrong?
Go find a decent translation and see the error of your ways

P>S Zoro says it and Luffy not "Rufi" agrees to it!
Besides rufi... it's the correct translation.... so your wrong. Again.

And now your trying to change the point.

Dont tell us to go read the manga when you clearly forgotten how things were stated.
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Here's another one. Again, Zoro says it. Luffy NEVER admits inferiority to swords.

Enel figures it out but that not even impressive because obviously sharp things cut people.

Can you look any less lame? Lol, go take a nap pal.
 

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Besides rufi... it's the correct translation.... so your wrong. Again.

And now your trying to change the point.

Dont tell us to go read the manga when you clearly forgotten how things were stated.
It isnt correct, the very fact that Zoro says "Rufi" and "Invincible swordsman" means the whole thing should be tossed out!

p.s the translation on the volume is similar(different wording) to those translations your using and because of it the meaning in those 2 pages is completely different to what you believe!
 

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It isnt correct, the very fact that Zoro says "Rufi" and "Invincible swordsman" means the whole thing should be tossed out!
Your a clown right now hahahab. Your point was that LUFFY said he needed Zoro to be the WSS because he was weak to swords.

You were WRONG.

You can't find any translations to back you up. And it's sad bro. Take your "L"
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Rufi is also a common translation with the japanese manga often changing the R and L in a word... which is where the ZOLO organization comes from. Come on. How long have you been reading One Piece to not know that very obvious translation change.
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"He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk"

Your exact words and they are absolute trash because that's not what happened
 

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Your a clown right now hahahab. Your point was that LUFFY said he needed Zoro to be the WSS because he was weak to swords.

You were WRONG.

You can't find any translations to back you up. And it's sad bro. Take your "L"
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Rufi is also a common translation with the japanese manga often changing the R and L in a word... which is where the ZOLO organization comes from. Come on. How long have you been reading One Piece to not know that very obvious translation change.
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"He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk"

Your exact words and they are absolute trash because that's not what happened
How old are you?
Do you take the meaning of a sentence word for word without even understanding the meaning and reasoning behind those words.................
The very fact that after losing to Mihawk and Luffy agreeing to what Zoro was saying means what to you?

Oda has named them Luffy and Zoro any other translation of their names is complete B.S

"He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk"

You are right this are my words, so explain to me why are they so hard for you to understand
 

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How old are you?
Do you take the meaning of a sentence word for word without even understanding the meaning and reasoning behind those words.................
The very fact that after losing to Mihawk and Luffy agreeing to what Zoro was saying means what to you?

Oda has named them Luffy and Zoro any other translation of their names is complete B.S

"He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk"

You are right this are my words, so explain to me why are they so hard for you to understand
Because that's not what happened and I gave you the panels proving you wrong.

You said Luffy said something that he NEVER uttered. Zoro did.

You insult other people when your own memory is being called into question now.

In NO translation does Luffy say he is weak to swords to the degree that he needs Zoro. Your clowning yourself which is even funnier.

Your trying to convince yourself your somehow not wrong.

Oda has written Laughtale as Raftel for almost 20 years before he declared the correct organization was Laugh Tale so translations are fluid as it pertains to One Piece. And your just making this arguement to distract from the fact you are wrong.

Zoro promised Luffy he would never lose again and if he has a problem with it. Luffy said no! Not that he agreed he needed Zoro for swordsmen! Here ya go


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Luffy NEVER even implies he needs Zoro to deal with swordsmen.

Go home, your drunk
 

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Because that's not what happened and I gave you the panels proving you wrong.

You said Luffy said something that he NEVER uttered. Zoro did.

You insult other people when your own memory is being called into question now.

In NO translation does Luffy say he is weak to swords to the degree that he needs Zoro. Your clowning yourself which is even funnier.

Your trying to convince yourself your somehow not wrong.

Oda has written Laughtale as Raftel for almost 20 years before he declared the correct organization was Laugh Tale so translations are fluid as it pertains to One Piece. And your just making this arguement to distract from the fact you are wrong.

Zoro promised Luffy he would never lose again and if he has a problem with it. Luffy said no! Not that he agreed he needed Zoro for swordsmen! Here ya go


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Luffy NEVER even implies he needs Zoro to deal with swordsmen.

Go home, your drunk
I guess you missed the whole point of what Zoro was saying or why he asked Luffy about it in the end then :facepalm
I see that your only reading for the sake of reading and not to understand :gtfo
 

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I guess you missed the whole point of what Zoro was saying or why he asked Luffy about it in the end then :facepalm
I see that your only reading for the sake of reading and not to understand :gtfo
So you cant admit your wrong. Got it.

Enjoy living in your delusion. If you can find a panel to back up your ridiculous claim, feel free to tag me in it.
 

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So you cant admit your wrong. Got it.

Enjoy living in your delusion. If you can find a panel to back up your ridiculous claim, feel free to tag me in it.
When was i wrong?
 

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When was i wrong?
"He agreed he was weak vs swordsman and would be in trouble if Zoro didnt become WSS when they faced Mihawk"
 
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