Hangout Berserk General Discussion Thread

[baboysai]

I disagree about the "unnecessary" art though. Most especially about the architecture. It's really one of the things that most artists/writers love to gloss over, but for those few who don't, those few who actually find time to get the readers to visualize the world their story is in, those few artists/writers are worth the praise.

I'm a reader who's very particular about the architecture, not just because I was an architecture major, but because there are places that can only happen in fiction, and for artists to be able to flesh it all out and make possible takes extra imagination on their part.

Falconia's architecture was crazy- in the sense that those roads go all the way up, and when he details those stuff, what he probably wants to express is that you as a reader, should also feel the awe that Rickert was seeing- he was seeing something never seen before, something that, if you consider how cities and structures that size were built, that Falconia became overnight, definitely means, through his drawing, and not just through mere text, that Griffith performed a friggin' miracle.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

As much as I like architecture, and understand that Falconia could be considered a wonder from an architectural point of view, is it necessary to have 4 or 6 pages each chapter dedicated to just drawing it, when those pages could have been used more efficiently by having more dialogues or monologues? When it comes to writing you can understand the limits of describing too much instead of knowing the thoughts of the characters for example. I'm not saying Miura is bad at writing, but he should focus more on the plot than the details, unless of course these are part of the plot which I really doubt.
I'm not just talking about the architecture, but in general. Miura has become obsessed with his art, to the point that he feels that every chapter should have at least 1 or 2 double spreads,just so he can show that he's good at what he's doing. I might be exaggerating, but right now I find myself enjoying manga like Magi more than Berserk, because lately Berserk has become more about the setting than the actual plot.

 

[xi0]

Wow, you guys are being really nitpicky here. The issues you have with the lack of "story" are accentuated tenfold because of how little content we get in a year, I think. If you read it more in bulk form, you'd probably enjoy it much more.

 

[peterx]

Hi All!

I've been collecting Berserk manga for a good 6-7 years now for later read when it is finishes (seen the anime).

I've a question for those people here who are up-to-date with the latest manga events! Can you guess how much until this manga is finished, how much chapter away based on the current events?

I've been waiting years now to read this manga as a whole finally.. how much do you think I've to wait?

PLEASE Dont spoil anything!! I Dont want to know ANYTHING that is currently going on nor discussion about it, only a guess how many chapter needs until every major event is resolved, every villain is dead! At least is the manga at halfway point or two-third (2/3) aready?

Thank You very much in advance!!

 

[killy-.-]

Miura will die before Berserk is finished.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

...and we'll all commit suicide and die with him.

 

[peterx]

Thanks for the answers! So there is THAT much remained to tell in the story?
Well, if its true, I guess I will collect this manga for a few more years... HATE monthly mangas cant stand to wait for the next chapter that much..

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Sorry for my post earlier, I was half serious half joking.To answer your question,I don't remember exactly but it was a while now, Miura said that the story was 70% complete. That means there's 30% left, but considering the hectic schedule that Berserk has, I don't think we'd see the end anytime soon.I think it's a wise idea to continue to buy the books, and wait for it to be completed, if that ever happens. In the meantime you can read other mangas of the same quality of Berserk

 

[baboysai]

yeah i've also started collecting the manga, but I'm up to date. And so far I've only collected 7 volumes. I don't like to buy out of order so I can only buy it if the local bookstore has the next volume I'm waiting for. And even with this style of buying, I don't think I'll be worried because i'll have a lot of time waiting for the rest of the story lol.

 

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[TheWanderer]

Berserk as a manga evolved over time to what that mangaka saw it as. At first it was nothing more than a story, a dark fantasy, with dark setting, dark ideals, and unforgiving aspects of human nature.

Overtime however with the popularity and dedication towards the manga it turned into his personal footprint in history. It no longer is something that is just a paycheck to him and purely about telling a story as fast as he can then getting paid for it, now it's about creating a masterpiece.

Think of the great artist from the past, their artwork, masterpieces were in essence just potraits, landscapes or depictions of grand concepts. But their styles how they went about it, is what put them in focus in history and this is what Miura is doing. Yes it means the art piece is going to take longer to accomplish but this is how Miura wants to do it. He has the freedom which allows him to produce a piece of art for the masses to enjoy and for history to keep in memory which is completely the opposite from some mangaka that become burned out or later simplify their art style to completley deadlines, Miura can treat his story as art moreso because he has that ability to flesh it out to his perfectionist design.

Maybe later on he will speed up the process of his story, or who knows, maybe he already has. There is nothing that says he's doing everything in order, unless it has been noted, but maybe while he's working on chapters that are "harder" because of the detail needed to finish the chapter, he's also been working and completing easier chapters so that at some point when he doesn't need to focus on the intricate design of ships, building and the likes he can release chapters at a quicker pace because those chapters didn't require the fine line of details like those other chapters did.

Time will tell though but for now I think it's better to see this as a masterpiece in the making, and masterpieces take time to produce, while yes it would be enjoyable to see the story play out faster the passion behind each chapter is always shown and it reflects heavily how dedicated Miura is to his piece.

 

[killy-.-]

TheWanderer, The problem is Miura is an old geezer, is the art more important than the story ? What if the guy will get hit by a car tommorow? Will an unfinished manga be something worth looking at? Wouldnt it be like Michelangelo only drew half of the "Creation of Adam" ? Most propably such art would be removed and forgotten long time ago.

 

[xi0]

TheWanderer, The problem is Miura is an old geezer, is the art more important than the story ? What if the guy will get hit by a car tommorow? Will an unfinished manga be something worth looking at? Wouldnt it be like Michelangelo only drew half of the "Creation of Adam" ? Most propably such art would be removed and forgotten long time ago.

Miura is 47, not an old geezer

And everything you said could be said about any mangaka, regardless of their schedule. It's kind of ridiculous for any fan to tell Miura how to work. "Oh, just tone down the art a bit and release more". It's clearly not that simple and someone like Miura obviously has a vision for what he wants Berserk to be and he isn't going to compromise on that.

 

[llamapie]

Miura will die before Berserk is finished.

Testing me aren't you? :P

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Miura is 47, not an old geezer

And everything you said could be said about any mangaka, regardless of their schedule. It's kind of ridiculous for any fan to tell Miura how to work. "Oh, just tone down the art a bit and release more". It's clearly not that simple and someone like Miura obviously has a vision for what he wants Berserk to be and he isn't going to compromise on that.

Ya I don't get that logic either. You want more yet asking miura to change his style is the same as not getting the manga any more. No, Miura doesn't need to change a thing.

 

[baboysai]

how can you ask a mangaka to sacrifice his art? this is hilarious. if any one person does it for passion or some real purpose, he/she can't compromise anything even if it kills them. That's just the way things go, bro.

there are some that could really go unfinished because of untimely deaths or accidents but i don't particularly mind. i mean sure, it's a bummer but, shit happens. I can only name two at the top of my head and they're shoujo manga- 'It Started With A Kiss' was never completed due to the death of the author but the work's very popular and has been adapted into anime and live-action drama by three different countries. 'Nana' is also on hiatus because of the mangaka's injury with her wrist and it's been on hold for five years. yeah us readers have been waiting patiently. Yet that work has inspired an anime and movie adaptation as well despite it being unfinished.

I don't really "take it out on Miura". you could, say, move on with Real life a bit until a new chapter comes out. That way, you wouldn't feel the need to email him to get his ass moving about releasing chapters and "tone down his art".

 

[FetherMan]

Most of you who read Berserk, don't even "pay" to read the new chapters when they are released anyway (including myself). Miura doesn't owe us an explanation, he owns his work, he'll release the chapters when they are ready to be released period. We honestly cannot complain about the pacing of the series, cut that sh*t out completely.

 

[Wowzers]

I personally like the idea of Miura taking his time and doing it right.

My only fear would be he will die of old age before he finishes.

 

[102jayday]

Most of you who read Berserk, don't even "pay" to read the new chapters when they are released anyway (including myself). Miura doesn't owe us an explanation, he owns his work, he'll release the chapters when they are ready to be released period. We honestly cannot complain about the pacing of the series, cut that sh*t out completely.

I have bought all 37 volumes in English, the mangas I love I'll buy same with anime...even though I have like 40 Blu/Dvds that I haven't watched yet . I am happy whenever a chapter gets released.
I am use to the pacing now so just get super excited when I see a new chapter coming out.
When I got into berserk was just when the japanese chapters of Guts and Zoid teaming up were released back then the english volumes were up to volume 26. So its pretty cool that its up to date now just means when volume 38 is released, the english one will be like less than 2 months to be released maybe even 1 month.

 

[Aazholh]

My only regret is not being born 30 years later and being able to enjoy a 3/4 complete Berserk.

 

[102jayday]

My only regret is not being born 30 years later and being able to enjoy a 3/4 complete Berserk.

But if you were then you prob wouldn't appreciate some of the classic animes in the 80s and 90s.