Discussion Blackbeard's Strength

[OQO]

I think Zoro would be more effective aginst BB.

Like BB said he can absorb fire. But once Zoro slashes him he can't "absorb" the slash.

Right! I find BB's powers a little bit stupid... maybe he can absorb even a deep slash, but if he receives a death blow he shouldn't be able to absorb anything anymore! Or else it would mean that he is able to trick death, and he would be invincible against every power no matter which one!! So a well aimed shot to the head should be the solution to BB's existence.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Right! I find BB's powers a little bit stupid... maybe he can absorb even a deep slash, but if he receives a death blow he shouldn't be able to absorb anything anymore! Or else it would mean that he is able to trick death, and he would be invincible against every power no matter which one!! So a well aimed shot to the head should be the solution to BB's existence.

So the majority of the DF's powers are stupid ? A lot of DF users would die from a shot to the head.

 

[chess4]

i cant help but to think that BB is going to get another fruit. i know its been said a bunch, but we all know how oda likes to to drop subtle hints, and if you look at all the jolly rogers they mirror their captains. BB's flag has 3 heads and i think oda did that on purpose to say he will get another fruit. since he has a logia and a paremecia, so maybe he will get a zoan fruit.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

i cant help but to think that BB is going to get another fruit. i know its been said a bunch, but we all know how oda likes to to drop subtle hints, and if you look at all the jolly rogers they mirror their captains. BB's flag has 3 heads and i think oda did that on purpose to say he will get another fruit. since he has a logia and a paremecia, so maybe he will get a zoan fruit.

And he may already have a zoan : we still don't know why he hid under his darkness blanket when he stole WB's DF.

 

[OQO]

So the majority of the DF's powers are stupid ? A lot of DF users would die from a shot to the head.

Exactly. If it's just this simple to get rid of them, you can't say it's a useful power. Logia's users are the deal! 'Cause you need a greater power to rule them. With others DF's users it depends on the specific gained power. With some, like BB's one, if you are smart enough they're not a problem at all. BB's power would be more efficient if it could repel things, like Pain's (Naruto ndr).

 

[ZZPallando]

So the majority of the DF's powers are stupid ? A lot of DF users would die from a shot to the head.

... and WB was not one of them! ^^


Anyway, it's indeed possible BB already has a zoan... I like the idea of a mythical zoan "Black Tortoise" which would make the user's body very resilient and "give" him two more "bodies" (the snake and the turtle) and for each part the user could eat a DF.
His original self having eaten a zoan, he could only take two more...

But somehow this theory is unlikely since Marco (and the others) would know why his body is special, and would have been suprised when he took the Darkness DF, not the Quake fruit...

 

[chess4]

... and WB was not one of them! ^^


Anyway, it's indeed possible BB already has a zoan... I like the idea of a mythical zoan "Black Tortoise" which would make the user's body very resilient and "give" him two more "bodies" (the snake and the turtle) and for each part the user could eat a DF.
His original self having eaten a zoan, he could only take two more...

But somehow this theory is unlikely since Marco (and the others) would know why his body is special, and would have been suprised when he took the Darkness DF, not the Quake fruit...

i dont think he has a zoan fruit yet, i think he will get one down the road though

 

[OdaForPresident]

I do think blackbeard has a mythical zoan, the cerberus type. That would also explain his pirate flag, with the three skulls.

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/235/10/

So then he would have three heads and three devil fruits. Then he'd also have Zoan, Logia and Paramecia type fruits.

 

[chess4]

http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/577/16-17/

look at what marco said..............he suggested that teach had an abnormal body, not that he had another devil fruit, but a cerebus fruit would make sense.

 

[Dasbones]

I think Blackbeard is a very interesting character, his appearance is a stark contrast to both his power, and personality. he's the very example of a scheming villain (although I can't say he is very evil, the WG is vastly more sinister than any pirate could be.), but he happens to be housed in a brutish thug's body.

Odd theory of how he was able to consume more than one devil fruit: Since the majority of his mass is his gut, I think being able to eat more than one devil fruit has something to do with your body's ability to digest more than one, since they taste horrible and may have adverse effects on your health if mixed with another. Maybe eating more than one is like poison, so building up an impossibly resistant digestive system would allow you to consume more than one fruit.

Also, since his Fruit controls gravity, and since not even light can escape that, perhaps he was able to consume the 'power' (since Kuma is able to 'reflect' concepts like pain, which have no physical form) of whitebeard's devil fruit through that same gravity, thus not actually having to eat the fruit. This would also explain the reason for the large tarp that had to be thrown over, assuming he needs a larger shadow to produce a stronger force of gravity. I deduced that from seeing most all of his darkness protruding from his back (again assuming a light source would be shining towards him).

Honestly I prefer the Cerberus/Chimera theory, but I just wanted to throw that out there.

 

[zagorka]

I don't think it has anything to do with his gut being so big. Other characters have huge bodies as well. It doesn't mean the same thing applies for them, does it?

I think the Cerberus-fruit theory fits nicely so far. By it being some ancient zoan type fruit would explain why Blackbeard hasn't shown his other two heads. If Blackbeard didn't eat a Cerberus fruit, and was born like that by some birth-defect, then I'd buy that as well. Either way, it's the most plausible theory I've heard so far.

But I agree with you. Blackbeard is an amazing character. He has gained two of the most troublesome powers in the manga by far. Not that he's invincible, but I just love how Oda made him into such an overbearing character that Luffy must overcome at some point. Not even Roger had an opponent as dangerous as him (as far as we know).

 

[Dasbones]

I don't think it has anything to do with his gut being so big. Other characters have huge bodies as well. It doesn't mean the same thing applies for them, does it?

well perhaps I've been generalizing, but Marco and Jimbei did comment about his strange body, so it may not have something to do with his gut, its more likely that he trained himself to handle two fruits. Again, I still prefer the Cerberus/Chimera theory

 

[Bugzee]

It’s going to be interesting what he does now. I wonder where or what Island/region BB will decide to use for the sole purpose of “training” and “testing” out his new powers on? XD

First a logia ability, now a deadly paracemia power….mmm. I wonder what’s next? :P

 

[goldb]

He's probably off to the New World already. There's no point of him sticking around the Grandline where there are plenty of Marines who would want to go after him.

I think once the story gets back to the present, we'll start hearing a lot in the papers about BB skirmishes and fights, among other things.

 

[Truefan21]

he probably can take on an admiral with the help of his crew now

 

[Dasbones]

If he got his head out of his ass if he fights them and doesn't monologue, he could take all three of them. (not at the same time of course)

One thing about Blackbeard having the Quake fruit is that he can never use it effectively as Whitebeard did. Not because of any lack of skill or experience with it, it's operation seems straight forward; it's more related with the amount of physical strength he needs to create a shockwave. Whenever Whitebeard used his power, he seemed to use a considerable amount of strength to create the shockwave, and I think it's safe to say that Whitebeard was leagues ahead of Blackbeard (let alone anyone else ever) in terms of physical strength. This of course does not make Blackbeard any less dangerous, it just means he isn't as Hax as he's played out to be (especially since he's slow and likes to yap alot).

 

[Truefan21]

interesting point but BB seems have insane physical strength as well
of course not greater than WB as you said

 

[Dasbones]

Spoiler

I just noticed when they took the tarp off of Blackbeard and Whitebeard, white smoke was coming off from his back, and was contained under the tarp, and his clothes seem to have turned white, and fading back to their original color. Judging by that, I don't think he used the Yami Yami no Mi to steal Whitebeard's power, it must be something else...

Did anyone else notice this?

 

[Schabrak]

Nah his cape is still black, and his shirt was always white.^^ The darker pieces are likely just the shadow of his arm or some spilt blood.

Seems more like some hot steam coming of his body or just some wrinkles from the ligthed blanket.

 

[Fox666]

In One Piece there is always steam coming out... And once the war started Marineford was always comered by smoke and explosion