Fantasy Brandish vs Laxus

[Seven777]

First of all, Brandish told Dimaria to wait. She knew the attack was coming and she couldn’t even finish her sentence before Dimaria stopped time. Oh wow, Dimaria has to click her teeth so that is not instantaneous? Lmao, people like you.... Neither is Laxus’ movement speed. He still has to move and by the time he reaches Brandish, she could have already shrunk him.

She told Dimaria to wait because she didn’t want to get killed. As for Laxus movement speed not being instantaneous, didn’t say it was. I said he’s faster than Brandish, so he would obviously one shot her first.

Stop downplaying Brandish. Give me a good reason why someone who can alter any mass cannot alter Laxus’ organs.

Stop wanking Brandish, her feats are practically nonexistent.

Brandish had a mock fight with Lucy and shrunk her and enlarged her multiple times. Heck, all she needs to do is shrink Laxus and she wins. A tiny Laxus isn’t defeating anyone lol he’ll just be an angry ant.

Nah, tiny Laxus still oneshots Brandish. We saw from tiny Marin that mp isn’t affected by shrinkage, Laxus could still nuke her.

Laxus’ nuke nearly killing Ajeel doesn’t tell us he has Spriggan plus MP. It just shows us that Ajeel isn’t durable enough to tank it. Neinhart had Spriggan+ MP when he was enchanted and he was defeated with a PUNCH. Your reasoning sucks ass. You want Laxus to win so bad you didn’t even realise you fucked up LOL. Show me something that 200% shows Laxus has more MP than Brandish, who made Gray shit his pants.

Just goes to show Natsus physical power far surpasses spriggan level. Laxus nuke on the other hand is pure magic, no physicals, more than enough to suggest his no is greater.

Check chapter 500 and 510. Neinhart had too much MP since he was enchanted by Irene so Command T didn’t work on him.all that changed was that he got more MAGICAL POWER. He still got defeated with a PUNCH. Brandish couldn’t use Command T on Natsu’s END tumour after it had expanded. Why? Because it gave Natsu more MP.

That confirms that more Mp is A way to bypass her magic, not that it’s the only way.

Again, why would Command T, which can alter mass, have anything to do with speed, power, durability? It’s literally shrinking and expanding. It’s based on magic power and nothing else. Brandish will kill you if you don’t have more MP than she does. Hence why Command T didn't work on enchanted Neinhart but he got defeated by a punch....

Never used it in combat, so not really anything to worry about. It’s like worrying about Mest slaughtering every spriggan

How can the most powerful fighter overral win if their head pops like a balloon? Serious question.

Many ways. Being too powerful to be affected by the magic. Blitzing so hard that the opponent can’t even think to attack, having better hax, simply being too durable For the organs to be enlarged beyond the confines of their tough bodies, etc. You could make up a thousand reasons

 

[LaGOAT]

@Seven777 is right as far as MP goes we don’t know brandish MP is higher than laxus Gray was comparing MP to makarov and that is be4 the timeskip at that time he hasn’t meet laxus. We can only go by laxus feats and judging by his feats we can argue his MP isn’t lower than brandish in fact there was a panel when dimaria used TS at the same time laxus and wahl were fighting so that can be debate. Anyways laxus>brandish

 

[Livinbreathineatin]

She told Dimaria to wait because she didn’t want to get killed. As for Laxus movement speed not being instantaneous, didn’t say it was. I said he’s faster than Brandish, so he would obviously one shot her first.

Stop wanking Brandish, her feats are practically nonexistent. Nah, tiny Laxus still oneshots Brandish. We saw from tiny Marin that mp isn’t affected by shrinkage, Laxus could still nuke her.
Just goes to show Natsus physical power far surpasses spriggan level. Laxus nuke on the other hand is pure magic, no physicals, more than enough to suggest his no is greater.

That confirms that more Mp is A way to bypass her magic, not that it’s the only way.

Never used it in combat, so not really anything to worry about. It’s like worrying about Mest slaughtering every spriggan

Many ways. Being too powerful to be affected by the magic. Blitzing so hard that the opponent can’t even think to attack, having better hax, simply being too durable For the organs to be enlarged beyond the confines of their tough bodies, etc. You could make up a thousand reasons

Something like Command T doesn’t need feats. Did you want Brandish to actually walk into Fairytail and start killing everyone and making their heads pop? Anyway, Brandish destroyed Nation’s with her power. Stop underestimating her.

Again, Natsu beat Neinhart with a punch because Neinhart with Spriggan+ MP still had shit durability. There’s still nothing that suggests Laxus has more MP than Brandish.

Blitzing so hard? Do you even hear yourself? You can’t beat Command T without more MP, period. Your head has exploded. You’re not doing anything to anyone.

 

[Seven777]

Something like Command T doesn’t need feats. Did you want Brandish to actually walk into Fairytail and start killing everyone and making their heads pop? Anyway, Brandish destroyed Nation’s with her power. Stop underestimating her.

Again, Natsu beat Neinhart with a punch because Neinhart with Spriggan+ MP still had shit durability. There’s still nothing that suggests Laxus has more MP than Brandish.

Blitzing so hard? Do you even hear yourself? You can’t beat Command T without more MP, period. Your head has exploded. You’re not doing anything to anyone.

Destroying nations means nothing, actually accomplishing things in the manga is where it’s at. Laxus killing Brandishs equal while dying, and almost killing another of her peers casually is a pretty strong case for him being better than her.

Natsu beat Neinhart because his phyisical attack power is so far beyond spriggan, it’s why he beat Jacob too. As for something that suggests Laxus has more me than Brandish, casually launching a pure magic attack that could kill one of her peers is a pretty good indication.

I do hear myself, do you hear yourself? Feels like you’re getting a little more worked up about this than you should be. Anyway, yes, blitzs her hard. For all you know Brandish has to aim Command T, which means she may not be able to even hit Laxus with his speed. Just yet another reason for why her lack of feats kills your argument. Not that it matters anyway, Laxus is far faster than Brandish, he’d onshot her before she’d oneshot him

 

[Arjuna]

I personally think Brandish or for the matter most Spriggans have more MP than anyone in FT apart from maybe Gildarts.

Just compare the reaction of FT members to both Brandish and Laxus.They were shocked on seeing her aura even in her casual mode,but never did comment something similar to Laxus.


That's my two cent on this issue.

 

[Seven777]

I personally think Brandish or for the matter most Spriggans have more MP than anyone in FT apart from maybe Gildarts.

Just compare the reaction of FT members to both Brandish and Laxus.They were shocked on seeing her aura even in her casual mode,but never did comment something similar to Laxus.


That's my two cent on this issue.

You reckon? Looked to me like Ajeel was shitting his pants pretty hard when he saw Laxus, or rather the attack he was about to hit him with. Wahl was also crapping his pants when he realized Laxus wasn't infected with MBPs anymore. As for why FT don't, well prob for the same reason Juliet and Hyne aren't impressed by Spriggans but are by Mirajane, because they're allies, nothing to be afraid of.

To me, having a pure magic attack that can kill your opponent in one hit, while simultaneously having less magic than your opponent is kinda weird. I'd say FDK Natsu, Laxus, DF Gajeel, Gildart's and DeS Gray after he awakened to the dark power of his negative emotions, all have higher MP than spriggans, they're just far too observably superior not to have. Though I guess DeS Gray and Gajeel could merely be physically superior, Laxus, Natsu and Gildarts on the other hand seem to be far superior magically as well.

 

[Arjuna]

You reckon? Looked to me like Ajeel was shitting his pants pretty hard when he saw Laxus, or rather the attack he was about to hit him with. Wahl was also crapping his pants when he realized Laxus wasn't infected with MBPs anymore. As for why FT don't, well prob for the same reason Juliet and Hyne aren't impressed by Spriggans but are by Mirajane, because they're allies, nothing to be afraid of.

"Because they are allies" logic don't work to be honest, because we have at least one instance where FT members actually commenting on an ally's immense magic power and that is when Gildarts was fighting Historia God Serena.Wendy and others actually commented on his "immense"/"obscene magic power (depending upon the translation)

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To me, having a pure magic attack that can kill your opponent in one hit, while simultaneously having less magic than your opponent is kinda weird.

But that also doesn't work


Neinhart here says his MP increased very much

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And Brandish's magic doesn't work on him because his MP is far above her

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But Natsu easily defeats him

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And if i go by your logic then Natsu would have more MP than Brandish at that time


But very next chapter

Brandish easily uses her magic on him

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The only time you may Natsu has Spriggan+ MP may be only in DF or


Savage Emotions mode

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[Seven777]

"Because they are allies" logic don't work to be honest, because we have at least one instance where FT members actually commenting on an ally's immense magic power and that is when Gildarts was fighting Historia God Serena.Wendy and others actually commented on his "immense"/"obscene magic power (depending upon the translation)

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But that also doesn't work


Neinhart here says his MP increased very much

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And Brandish's magic doesn't work on him because his MP is far above her

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But Natsu easily defeats him

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And if i go by your logic then Natsu would have more MP than Brandish at that time


But very next chapter

Brandish easily uses her magic on him

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The only time you may Natsu has Spriggan+ MP may be only in DF or


Savage Emotions mode

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It kinda does though, just look at the reaction of Juliet and Hyne with Mirajane compared to how they react to spriggans or even Eileen. Besides, everyone was suitably impressed by Laxus when he appeared, Erza and Gray especially. Having Wahl/Ajeel shit their pants because of you is more impressive anyway, because they've supposedly got such high amounts of MP.

As for Natsu beating Neinhart, he is simply far stronger physically. I've said it before, MP is only one aspect of a character's power, and as I understand it, physical attack power is a separate stat from magic power(based on Tartaros stats).

 

[Axiomus]

Fairy Tail members do have more magic power than the Spriggans. It's just that they need to have Power of Feelings. Natsu doesn't have more power than a Spriggan when he's fighting casually, but when he's pumped on power of feelings he is more powerful than Zeref with Fairy Heart. Other characters are pretty much the same. Erza when she was flexing on the Historia had magic power that Neinhart considered overwhelming. Invel recognized that Gray had the potential to be a Spriggan if he unlocked the darkness in his heart, which is a fancy way of saying power of feelings from negative emotions. When Gray thought Juvia died, his those emotions boosted him way above Invel. The emotional state of the characters is literally going to affect how much magic power they have. There's also things like stronger forms and whatnot.

Brandish magic work on people around her level. You need to be far above her level (at least on Neinhart's level) to be immune to her magic. We don't know if Laxus is on this level, though it's entirely possible he is. We won't know for certain unless Brandish fights someone.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Brandish change into Titan form to endure Laxus attacks and use her magic to kill him by exploding his brain.

 

[LaGOAT]

Brandish change into Titan form to endure Laxus attacks and use her magic to kill him by exploding his brain.

Brandish in titan form will slow her movements Laxus essily dodges casual nuke brandish durability is in question

 

[WoWfan]

Brandish change into Titan form to endure Laxus attacks and use her magic to kill him by exploding his brain.

Yeah basically this

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

The only time you may Natsu has Spriggan+ MP may be only in DF or


Savage Emotions mode

I think he had same amount of power with Igneel's' power as well.

 

[LaGOAT]

I just remember laxus blitz acno (although it didn’t do anything to him) laxus would just blitz her

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

I just remember laxus blitz acno (although it didn’t do anything to him) laxus would just blitz her

That doesn't matter. Brandish showed to use her magic with a targeted in movement and if she starts the match titanizing herself she would endure Laxus attacks and kill him with Comando T.

 

[WoWfan]

Laxus does not blitz, as he was matched by Jura and he is weaker than Brandi, even Natsu can react to lightning speed

 

[Arjuna]

I just remember laxus blitz acno (although it didn’t do anything to him) laxus would just blitz her

To be honest Acnologia was caught off-guard by Laxus.

 

[WoWfan]

Too be fair, Acno can afford to be caught off guard by those inferior to him

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Laxus gets another addition to his Harem collection.

 

[LaGOAT]

Hax can be beaten by blitzing. Laxus can simply blitz just like how laxus blitz obra who can erase magic. And gray blitz evergreen and billow. Brandish really didn’t show any impressive feats last arc.