Fantasy Brandish vs Laxus

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Jko

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Jellal hasn't shown any good durability. He is a spell caster not a brawler. Most of his strength and speed comes from his metoer ability. Besides Brandish got cut like butter by Dimaria(So easily like cheese). Laxus has better durability than August and Brandish although they have better magic power. He won't get cut like butter So i don't see brandish tanking continental attacks from laxus which deal more damage than knife. Brandish isn't very fast, Laxus can move as fast as lightning. Brandish wouldn't know what hit her.
Laxus has shown to tank a knife while defenseless? When? Also Laxus has better dura than August who tanked Gild's strongest attack with minimal injuries? Erza who has crazy dura gets still chopped by sword attacks lol. I'm not seeing Laxus' better dura bcs he hasn't fought anyone with a sword. Brandish magic happens so fast Natsu and co couldn't even react to. Also BoS characters have been lightning timers.
 

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Erza who has crazy dura gets still chopped by sword attacks lol
In accordance to Mashima logic POF Erza got better durability and Godly endurance(Better than acno since it's always increasing). She is a living zombie as well, No matter what you do she gets up and slash everyone. So it's not correct to use her. It's way kill her as soon she is down, you should keep stomping on her head non-stop until she is reduced something like a cowdung.
 

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@Jko oh if u believe that brandish=wall then laxus easily wins
 

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Well it is hard to tell if Laxus is immune to the effects of Brandish’s magic since they never fought, however, she has shown to quite durable without falling victim to any sort of underhanded tactics, also Laxus is not the only thing that Brandish’s magic can target.
 

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Laxus has shown to tank a knife while defenseless? When? Also Laxus has better dura than August who tanked Gild's strongest attack with minimal injuries? Erza who has crazy dura gets still chopped by sword attacks lol. I'm not seeing Laxus' better dura bcs he hasn't fought anyone with a sword. Brandish magic happens so fast Natsu and co couldn't even react to. Also BoS characters have been lightning timers.
Gray has shown to endure a sword stab and slash through his torso when he fought and eventually defeated Lyon on Galuna Island.


Laxus has displayed physical durability of greater magnitude when he took an explosion bullet head-on from Hades, which was powerful enough to blow through the reinforced armour of the hull of Grimoire Heart's battleship, without any magic power in his body.


For reference, when a mage as skilled and experienced as Makarov suddenly got all his magic power depleted, he couldn't muster even the energy to stand and eventually went into a comatose state.


What Laxus accomplished in that instance, with purely his physical durability, was unheard of.

I don't know why we are discussing about durability when you have already seemingly made up your mind that Brandish can simply enlarge Laxus' organs till the point where they explode, effectively bypassing conventional durability. Your argument is all over the place. You were skeptical that Laxus can tank a knife slash, because according to you, he has never shown to do so. Yet the feat above, and fighting toe-to-toe with Assault Wall who literally absorbs lightning, while being severely afflicted with his fatal illness, is enough evidence to suggest some knife slashes are hardly going to do Laxus in.

On the other hand, you are so certain that Brandish can enlarge Laxus' organs, when she has never shown to do so. That is either double standards, or you are inclined to give Brandish some massive benefit of doubt in her favour.

Brandish couldn't touch Neinhart after he was enchanted, and neither could she alter the size of Natsu's tumour when he was comatose.


She could, however, do so before Natsu's END side was awakened. During that time Natsu regarded Brandish as an ally, and completely let his guard down against her. In addition, that was not during the midst of a battle. I doubt Laxus would adopt the same mindset as Natsu did then. Furthermore, Brandish's character has never been portrayed with the malicious personality and fighting style of bursting her foe's organs, that Dimaria claimed. Statements made by characters in the series can often be erroneous.

Larcade was stated to be a trump card against Acnologia. That S-Class monster in the GMG's Pandemonium was stated to be on par with Jura. Jura was stated to be on par with Gildarts. Bluenote's Black Hole was stated to be capable of sucking anything in. Bottom line? Don't listen to empty statements made by characters, when they are not backed up by any feats of substance. At the end of the day, there are too many variables that have to be met in Brandish's favour before Laxus finds himself falling vulnerable to Brandish's magic.
 
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Well it is hard to tell if Laxus is immune to the effects of Brandish’s magic since they never fought, however, she has shown to quite durable without falling victim to any sort of underhanded tactics, also Laxus is not the only thing that Brandish’s magic can target.
Except wat are brandish durable feat? Laxus took a hit from acno 1. Laxus face 2 spriggans 1 he almost casually oneshotted 2. Who was immune to lighting. We don’t know if brandish can take a hit from laxus.
 

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Gray has shown to endure a sword stab and slash through his torso when he fought and eventually defeated Lyon on Galuna Island.


Laxus has displayed physical durability of greater magnitude when he took an explosion bullet head-on from Hades, which was powerful enough to blow through the reinforced armour of the hull of Grimoire Heart's battleship, without any magic power in his body.


For reference, when a mage as skilled and experienced as Makarov suddenly got all his magic power depleted, he couldn't muster even the energy to stand and eventually went into a comatose state.


What Laxus accomplished in that instance, with purely his physical durability, was unheard of.

I don't know why we are discussing about durability when you have already seemingly made up your mind that Brandish can simply enlarge Laxus' organs till the point where they explode, effectively bypassing conventional durability. Your argument is all over the place. You were skeptical that Laxus can tank a knife slash, because according to you, he has never shown to do so. Yet the feat above, and fighting toe-to-toe with Assault Wall who literally absorbs lightning, while being severely afflicted with his fatal illness, is enough evidence to suggest some knife slashes are hardly going to do Laxus in.

On the other hand, you are so certain that Brandish can enlarge Laxus' organs, when she has never shown to do so. That is either double standards, or you are inclined to give Brandish some massive benefit of doubt in her favour.

Brandish couldn't touch Neinhart after he was enchanted, and neither could she alter the size of Natsu's tumour when he was comatose.


She could, however, do so before Natsu's END side was awakened. During that time Natsu regarded Brandish as an ally, and completely let his guard down against her. In addition, that was not during the midst of a battle. I doubt Laxus would adopt the same mindset as Natsu did then. Furthermore, Brandish's character has never been portrayed with the malicious personality and fighting style of bursting her foe's organs, that Dimaria claimed. Statements made by characters in the series can often be erroneous.

Larcade was stated to be a trump card against Acnologia. That S-Class monster in the GMG's Pandemonium was stated to be on par with Jura. Jura was stated to be on par with Gildarts. Bluenote's Black Hole was stated to be capable of sucking anything in. Bottom line? Don't listen to empty statements made by characters, when they are not backed up by any feats of substance. At the end of the day, there are too many variables that have to be met in Brandish's favour before Laxus finds himself falling vulnerable to Brandish's magic.
EoS Gray almost died from his own sword to the gut if Juvia didn't give him a transfusion so him being able to tank a sword is a stretch as currently he almost died from one.

None of that shows Laxus can tank sword stab defenseless. Do you see him tanking a sword without using any form of protection? You are also pulling up things even Neinheart could tank as per the own author's words that any of the S12 are greater than any threat they fought before bar Zeref and Acno. Meaning their physicals get scaled to prior foes as well. Also blunt force =/= piercing durability. Him taking Hades blast is a blunt force attack. He is still susceptible to a sword stab.

Brandish can't bust organs? When she was stated and shown to effect things on a sub particle level? What you are mentiom is self-hype but Brandish was stated to do this by another character and bas already shown to effect people on a sub particle level so your point is complete bs. How do you think she can enlarge Natsu's head with effecting his organs? How do you think she can alter the mass of entire body without effecting their organs? Organ busting was not surprising when she made a tumour (a mass the size of a cell) non existent.

She couldn't alter the tumor bcs of E.N.D.'s power. Nothing to do with MP levels. You do know Mashima has already stated that E.N.D. is practically anti-hax? He straight up walked through timestop lol.

Laxus doesn't have the mp nor feats to stop Brandish from being able to mass manipulate him. Brandish has already shown to effect two S12s with her ability to manipulate mass which are both above Laxus.

Where are you getting Brandish couldn't touch Neinheart? She sromped the guy who stomped him lol. She flicks an island size pebble or stomps him with her foot in giant form.

@Jko oh if u believe that brandish=wall then laxus easily wins
Brandish is above Wall and a non retard Wall is above Laxus. Laxus only won bcs Wall missed a shot that was going fatally injure him point blank despite making a shot from 400km away. He also went retard and didn't drop Etherion which would have instantly wiped Laxus off the face of the earth. Etherion is greater than anything Laxus has in his arsenal.
 

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Natsu was also damaged and base Neinheart oneshotted Jellal.
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August was pierced by regular knife as well. Once time is stopped they can't do anything to defend themselves. Only dragons are durable enough to not get pierced by a sword defenseless.

She walk through Invel's blizzard unaffected while Gray was even cold from it and she manhandle Natsu.

Fatal is a stretch.
August wasn't defeated after getting stabbed. Brandish was.

Invel wasn't really trying to freeze Brandish. He covered the entire battlefield with his snowstorm, and nobody else was frozen. He had to actually target Natsu and Gray with his freezing. Also, not getting frozen by Invel's ice isn't really a durability feat. At least, not one that scales to the type of damage Laxus' lightning and physical strength will inflict. Invel's ice did no apparent damage to Happy or Lucy when Natsu thawed them out. Laxus' attacks killed Wall. It was Augusts' calculation that Laxus' attack would have killed Ajeel, which is why he stepped in. Even if Laxus' nuke didn't kill Ajeel, it should at least knock Ajeel out. If Brandish can't bust Laxus' organs, then I don't see her beating Laxus in a straight-up fight.

Also, physical toughness is usually one of the perks of being a dragon slayer. Laxus can tank stuff like Gajeel's iron dragon spears being spammed at him without much apparent injury. Granted, this is Harvest-arc Gajeel. Though it shouldn't be that different from Dimaria waving around a regular knife.

 
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August wasn't defeated after getting stabbed. Brandish was.

Invel wasn't really trying to freeze Brandish. He covered the entire battlefield with his snowstorm, and nobody else was frozen. He had to actually target Natsu and Gray with his freezing. Also, not getting frozen by Invel's ice isn't really a durability feat. At least, not one that scales to the type of damage Laxus' lightning and physical strength will inflict. Invel's ice did no apparent damage to Happy or Lucy when Natsu thawed them out. Laxus' attacks killed Wall. It was Augusts' calculation that Laxus' attack would have killed Ajeel, which is why he stepped in. Even if Laxus' nuke didn't kill Ajeel, it should at least knock Ajeel out. If Brandish can't bust Laxus' organs, then I don't see her beating Laxus in a straight-up fight.

Also, physical toughness is usually one of the perks of being a dragon slayer. Laxus can tank stuff like Gajeel's iron dragon spears being spammed at him without much apparent injury. Granted, this is Harvest-arc Gajeel. Though it shouldn't be that different from Dimaria waving around a regular knife.

Never said he was. He was majorly injured and could've died. Brandish also was fine after getting stabbed as well and could regen (kind of) from it.

Gray was cold from his ice and his blizzard was greater than his passive cold manipulation as he was flexing his power at that point. Brandish in a bikini was able to walk through fine is an impressive temperature resistant feat. Pretty sure Natsu was protecting them ftom being frozen with his heat manipulation. Wouldn't make sense if he thawed them out just to let them get frozen again. Laxus full powered sttack killed a Wall who went retarded. It's not like his lightning bolt went through an Etherion blast and killed Wall. Yeah it could have KOed him, but you also have to see that Ajeel was caught off guard as well. He wasn't expecting for Laxus to pack that power.

Except DiMaria with a regular knife can kill Gajeel at any point in his life. He can't move in timestop therefore Gajeel is defenseless. Also the stronger the opponent the stronger the knife strike will be. Laxus also blocked all those attacks and didn't just stood still and let them bombard him with attacks. He can't defend himself in timestop therefore he will get stabbed. A mage without defenses are sucseptible to getting stabbed. Countless characters who have amazing blunt force dura are susceptible to a sword gutting them.
 

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Except wat are brandish durable feat? Laxus took a hit from acno 1. Laxus face 2 spriggans 1 he almost casually oneshotted 2. Who was immune to lighting. We don’t know if brandish can take a hit from laxus.
Acno needed the DSs alive for his plans so it was likely a none blood thirsty attack, Natsu was still effected by Brandish' magic and Natsu is likely comparable to Laxus at that point, and she took hits from Neinhart who was stronger than her and got off with only a few scratches.
 

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Laxus also blocked all those attacks and didn't just stood still and let them bombard him with attacks
he actually took all those hits from Gajeel while he was flying from a blow from Natsu as you can clearly see.

and knife doesn't get stronger when someone strong wields it unless he/she empowers it.

I do agree that Brandish can POSSIBLY win but saying that a knife would do anything to Laxus is laughable fam, even in time freeze.

even if she cuts him, his endurance is still too great to slow him down.
 
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EoS Gray almost died from his own sword to the gut if Juvia didn't give him a transfusion so him being able to tank a sword is a stretch as currently he almost died from one.

None of that shows Laxus can tank sword stab defenseless. Do you see him tanking a sword without using any form of protection? You are also pulling up things even Neinheart could tank as per the own author's words that any of the S12 are greater than any threat they fought before bar Zeref and Acno. Meaning their physicals get scaled to prior foes as well. Also blunt force =/= piercing durability. Him taking Hades blast is a blunt force attack. He is still susceptible to a sword stab.

Brandish can't bust organs? When she was stated and shown to effect things on a sub particle level? What you are mentiom is self-hype but Brandish was stated to do this by another character and bas already shown to effect people on a sub particle level so your point is complete bs. How do you think she can enlarge Natsu's head with effecting his organs? How do you think she can alter the mass of entire body without effecting their organs? Organ busting was not surprising when she made a tumour (a mass the size of a cell) non existent.

She couldn't alter the tumor bcs of E.N.D.'s power. Nothing to do with MP levels. You do know Mashima has already stated that E.N.D. is practically anti-hax? He straight up walked through timestop lol.

Laxus doesn't have the mp nor feats to stop Brandish from being able to mass manipulate him. Brandish has already shown to effect two S12s with her ability to manipulate mass which are both above Laxus.

Where are you getting Brandish couldn't touch Neinheart? She sromped the guy who stomped him lol. She flicks an island size pebble or stomps him with her foot in giant form.


Brandish is above Wall and a non retard Wall is above Laxus. Laxus only won bcs Wall missed a shot that was going fatally injure him point blank despite making a shot from 400km away. He also went retard and didn't drop Etherion which would have instantly wiped Laxus off the face of the earth. Etherion is greater than anything Laxus has in his arsenal.
And wall was only able to toe to toe with laxus cause he had cancer healthy laxus>wall. Despite wall having immunity of lighting laxus had the upper hand in hand to hand combat. Result till the same laxus uses red lighting destroy wall
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Acno needed the DSs alive for his plans so it was likely a none blood thirsty attack, Natsu was still effected by Brandish' magic and Natsu is likely comparable to Laxus at that point, and she took hits from Neinhart who was stronger than her and got off with only a few scratches.
Till doesn’t matter non serious acno attack>above any brandish durable feats. And natsu at that point was till below laxus
 

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btw, Laxus also has lightning body.

he can immediately use it and Brandish cannot blow up a lightning bolt.

he can materialize and immediately hit her with a Lightning Fist which would do a lot of damage.

so there is that as well.
 
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It does matter, because we have seen what an attack to kill from Acnologia looked like when he killed God Serena, and his weakened form ruffled up Gildarts before being defeated, Laxus would still have a hard time against a Spriggan, he also ate his lightning which would gain the level of strength Wall has so at the time, Laxus would still struggle against Brandish.
 

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I just know one that whoever it is except zeref anf acno because they were the Fv, would be eventually defeated by laxushe is the male erza
 

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It does matter, because we have seen what an attack to kill from Acnologia looked like when he killed God Serena, and his weakened form ruffled up Gildarts before being defeated, Laxus would still have a hard time against a Spriggan, he also ate his lightning which would gain the level of strength Wall has so at the time, Laxus would still struggle against Brandish.
No ur not getting it a non serious anco>anything brandish durable feat. Brandish feats are suspect as she hasn’t shown to tank anything on laxus caliber for all we know she might be glass canon. What do u mean? Laxus almost oneshot a spriggan and defrataed another while having 2 disadvantages
 

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August beats Aldron too
Nah Aldron doesn't even need magic to beat the geezer. He will tell the old man that he knows the reason why his Majesty son wasn't loved. Aldoron ask him to come close (right under his feet). August doesn't have the intellectual capacity to comprehend Aldoron plan. August goes near him and Aldoron sits on him. August the Senile King falls.
 

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Brandish is on same level as other Spriggans so that would make her tough to beat even when you have superhuman strength, her only weakness what jay fever and she was distracted too. We would not have known that Ajeel would have actually defeated by that attack, and Laxus really only had one advantage while his sickness only happens spontaneously at any moment, even while gaining the strength of a Spriggan he still could not beat a Spriggan until he had to use unconventional tactics
 
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