Kickmeister said:
I don't live in the USA so I don't know about this, but a friend of mine (who lives there) told me that most people he met would either be like "Yeah, I'm american and I'm darn proud of everything this country has ever done" or "Yeah, I'm american, it sucks but I can't help it"..
And if I remember correctly you're american.. So who is better to ask about wethter this applies for the whole country or not, if not an american
So to you Gold Knight: Does what I wrote up their make any sense of how americans usually are? *Yes I know you shouldn't generalize*
Sorry if I offended any americans out there....
Yeah, kinda. A little more complicated though. You have the Patriots on one hand and the "other party" (Idealists?) on the other. Then you have the people "in the middle" between the two. And then you have the people who don't care at all as long as you leave them alone (they're usually the ones who don't even bother to vote.)
Patriots - well, as a country, America has gone a LONG way in an quick time... been through wars and depressions and civil turmoils, to outstanding success and pretty much molding this land into the mightiest country/government in the world with the largest and deadliest army. In Naruto, it would be the Fire Country, Konohagakure, the top dog of the world, ya know. So yeah, there's a certain sense of pride that comes with feeling you're an American, a descendent of all the generations that built this place, and I think we Americans have all felt it at some point. So I can totally sympathize with the Patriots, and it IS pretty cool to usually feel totally safe from the rest of the world (9/11 nowithstanding).
Anyway, patriots are usually watchdogs, people who have sworn to protect their country, government, homes, families, and friends from all outside forces, even at the risk of isolating themselves from the rest of the world. They're usually conservative because they don't like huge changes, unless it means the growth of their economy, more jobs, etc. and they usually believe in earning their own money, so they are for the most part are Republicans. The biggest setback of patriots are that they are sometimes narrow-minded, if they are so focused on America that they don't think about the consequences it might have on the rest of the world. I now think Bush definitely falls in that latter category. Nevertheless, I think a lot of countries can sympathize with the idea of being "patriots" though. The unfortunate thing is if you are "patriots" and we are "patriots" then where is the line drawn? That's usually how wars start.
What I call "Idealists" are usually the "other party" - people seeking to improve on what's already been established. They're "people people." Their ideas are usually more radical and aims at helping other people, though sometimes the ideas can backfire if they're not careful. For instance, some ideas might come with the risk of threatening the stability of the country and the happiness of our own citizens, so for the most part, their ideas don't come with a lot of approval from patriots. These people are usually unhappy with how the government is run in America and want to change it, so people who feel like things should have been done differently are usually in this party. Sometimes they don't really have much loyalty to Americans because they're trying to be a part of the rest of the world, too.
Now, "in the middle" between these parties is the best place to be, I think. To have some pride for the country, some sense of loyalty to the homeland, while at the same time trying to help all people, not just Americans, as a general rule. Doing everything carefully with the right motives, considering all the possible scenarios that might happen, and then deciding and supporting a decision and helping it work. But my opinion is that first you have to take care of your family before you can think of taking care of the rest of the world. For many Patriots, Americans ARE their family. For Idealists, they usually consider the rest of the world their family instead of just America. Somewhere in the middle I think is the best place to be.
And as for the final category, the Americans that don't bother to care, the types that are too lazy to vote - they should get out of the country. They're parasites. That's how I feel about 'em. =/
Another drama with no good ending to both side is about to happen again while soldiers died, children who might just be another Nobel Prize winner died after his village got bombarded by US marines? Why does US want to fight so much? It really is a lose-lose situation here. =/
for us, most people from europe, believed that it was clear from the beginning that war has nothing to with ladin or else..i guess even soldiers didnt believe from the beginning that they can find and arrest ladin.....and every day we see people trying to run away from iraq and war by passing turkey
it is better not to start a war from the very beggining
too bad, too bad,...
