Discussion Caribou's Logia Power

[jorped]

let me see i think is fruit is numa-numa fruit so he is a swamp man :P

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What if it was shit? shit-shit no fruit ? o.0

lol if i already didnt know that he ate the numa-numa fruit i would think that that was the one that he did eat lol

 

[chess4]

finally this thread can be closed.....he is a swamp man.

 

[ScratchmenApoo]

But does simply getting his Devil Fruit's name answer the question whether he's a logia or actually a paramecia?

Teach said that only his Logia was special and it also allowed him to store humans/objects inside of him.
Now, if Caribou can do that as well (confirmed by him stealing the mermaids) then the storing ability of Teach's Logia isn't that special any more. And which would mean all Logias should have that ability ?

I think that Caribou's Fruit is a Paramecia that allows sucking in objects like a swamp (and possibly returning them later).
Maybe he knows that Logia is supposed to be rare and most people are more afraid of a Logia than a Paramecia so he purposefully lies about his Fruit, just to make himself more fearful.

 

[Poneglyph420]

Can we lock this thread now...

Unless someone else has some juvenile BS to post....
Or if someone is still convinced that his power is Paramecia...

Really!?

 

[Dice]

Well this thread could still serve the purpose to discuss his power. The extent of what he can do et cetera.

 

[Mashiro_Luna]

He is probably a logia but his power turns him into a swamp which could be a parmencia. His legs still being solid in the latest chapter makes me even more suspicious of this.

 

[Poneglyph420]

In the last chapter Caribou states that his body is infinite..

HERE: http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/68833748/6

That to me clearly proves (including all the other supporting info.) That Caribou is undoubtedly a Logia user...

If he were paramecia his DF wouldn't make him infinite.. he'd still be ruled by the general size and shape of his "normal" form...

Anyone have any other ideas about Caribou's power???

 

[Anduren]

I'm just going to quote myself on this since what I said in discussion/prediction seems to have gone unnoticed:

"...We have already seen this kind of effect in Skypea: Priest Gedatsu used swamp clouds and they had the exact same effect. Its not like his ability is the same as Blackbeard's Dark Hole. Stuff that goes into the swamp never comes out. Except in this case, since he IS the swamp, I guess he can find and pull stuff out that's already gone in."

 

[Mashiro_Luna]

I'm just saying until he definitely states he's a logia then I will still have my doubts. He could be a unique parmencia just like the Yami Yami no MI is a unique logia that doesn't transform his body.

 

[Freid]

I don't get it. I don't get why guys are so skeptical about Caribou's devil fruit in particular. Is he that special? When have we ever needed more evidence than the demonstration of the devil fruit itself, and other character's own judgment, for us to acknowledge a persons's devil fruit? Is the idea that he has a logia so inconcievable that we must belittle ourselves to being dependant on said person explicitly telling us that he is so, for it to be accepted? Is it because an attack was shown to not pass through him? If so, that is just a common misconception which I admittedly accepted for a long time. But then one day I just thought to myself 'Wtf, logias ain't intangible at all'. Logia users simply react to attacks the same way their elements would in reality. Kizaru's light is intangible by nature, so attacking him would also have that effect. Smoker's smoke is also intangible by nature so attacking him would also have that effect. However, when Ao Kiji is attacked, he shatters like ice would do in reality when hit. With that said, when Caribou was attacked, his body simply reacted to the canon ball the same way a swamp would in reality; it just sank in.

 

[c0nflikt]

what I want to know is this storage thing just unique to him and blackbeard, or like all logias. cause it'd be cool if non-destructive logias could do it but the more powerful ones couldn't.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

c0nflikt
I think for now it's only property of his and BB's fruits, cause it's logical from their nature, but we may see some other Logias that will let their users suck things and people.

Also I agree with Poneglyph420. It's rather clear that Caribou has Logia DF.

 

[Freid]

Yeah, though that particular aspect of Caribou's logia fruit does pose quite an advantage over other logia users, but I bet its at the cost of the destructive capabilities most of ther other logia users are granted.

 

[kkck]

I am still not convinced about caribou being a logia. His reaction when asked about that was rather awkward and what he has is not intangibility itself but rather the ability to absorb stuff. He also hasn't shown the ability to separate his element from his body. Other logias have shown they can throw their element at people such as akainu or crocodile with their magma shots and espada thingy while in turn caribou merely absorbed the whole thing. If caribou can only absorb things but not let them go through then he really can't be a logia unless we start getting a bunch of special logias like BB. I think caribou could very well be a paramecia that appears to be like a logia. Anyways, based on what little we have seen, caribou is a bit too different from other logia users to be a logia so far and could very well be a paramecia.

 

[Freid]

Logias being intangible is just a misconception that was developed because of the fact that most of the logias we have seen have been intangible. However, the reason is because most of them have all had elements which are intangible by nature, and Ao Kiji does not and instead shatters the way his element would in reality. Caribou’s ability to absorb stuff is simply mimicking the properties of a swamp. The common trait they all share is in fact the ability to remain unharmed when attacked. Nothing Caribou has demonstrated so far has breached the conventions of a logia user, but has instead done so regarding what we know of a paramecia. Like Poneglyph stated, paramecias maintain their general size and shape, and I doubt he has a special paramecia. Also I didn’t think his reaction when asked about his devil fruit was awkward at all. It was an appropriate way of responding to an enemy he is in the process of burying alive. I wouldn’t expect a guy like him to respond any less threatening than he did and was completely consistent of his character.

 

[kkck]

Aokiji is not like ace but that does not mean he is not intangible. Even if he breaks his actual body still cannot be hurt by conventional means and stuff in the end goes through him. With caribou, things do not go through him at all, quite the opposite, he keeps it within him.

 

[deffkryz]

I'm predicting it: Even if Oda throws out another five databooks - there'll still be doubt spread by some readers about whether Caribou's power are part of the Logia category DF or not... It's just like the ever returning statements that Luffy and Mr.3 are Logia users, too...

Readers need to get away from thinking of Logias in terms of "elements" - since this isn't Naruto we're talking about. Logias represent natural powers that humans are powerless against without or even with the help of tools.

Even with a rope and the help of others it's not sure that you can get out of a swamp.

 

[Freid]

Aokiji is not like ace but that does not mean he is not intangible. Even if he breaks his actual body still cannot be hurt by conventional means and stuff in the end goes through him. With caribou, things do not go through him at all, quite the opposite, he keeps it within him.

Ao Kiji is not intangible. Intangibility refers to something lacking in substance or simply unable to be touched. Strictly speaking, Ace is not intangible and neither is Crocodile. A logia fruit does not grant anybody the power of intangibility, but actually grants the user the ability to remain unharmed against attacks in the form of whatever 'natural power' they were given. So when attacking Caribou, things do not have to go through him as long as he remains unharmed; his body just does what a swamp would do.

 

[morau-san]

for all those that believe he's a paramecia.

http://www.manga2u.com/One_Piece/606/06/

are u really gonna disagree with franky? :P