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This is quite interesting article. It explains a lot.
Nanatsu Characters and their resemblance to Mythological and historical characters.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-01-01/king-arthur-and-the-seven-deadly-sins/.96980
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Like many Romantic proto-Goth teenage girls in the 1990s, I was in love with Marion Zimmer Bradley's Arthurian fantasy novel The Mists of Avalon. Primed by a generation of girls who had not only read but seen Anne Shirley pretend to be The Lady of Shallott, it was the book that spawned a thousand teenage feminist awakenings and myriad obsessions with Arthurian lore, and my fascination with the court of King Arthur, its people, and its places has survived to this day. King Arthur stories turn up in the strangest places, and ever since the start of my fascination, I have found myself looking for them. One of the odder places I've found the legend is Nakaba Suzuki's manga-turned-anime The Seven Deadly Sins. Sure, we all noticed that there's an Arthur and a Merlin running around Suzuki's kingdom of Britannia, but when you start to look beneath the surface, the entire story is actually filled with references to the Once and Future King...or at least, those who came before him in the legends. So grab your lances and tie on your favors and come with me in exploring the myths behind the manga. As a note, I'm not going to go into the more common names, so no Arthur or Merlin in this article. Also keep in mind that this is a very brief overview, so if anyone has any additional insights, please don't hesitate to share them in the forum.



Elizabeth

Elizabeth is probably the easiest reference to miss – if you go back into British history, there are numerous Elizabeths floating around; most people think of Elizabeth I, the Virgin Queen. But if you go even further back into the not-quite-real time of Arthurian legend, we find more Elizabeths: most notably the Princess of Cornwall. This Elizabeth was King Mark's sister, and since there's some evidence to suggest that Mark was a real Cornish ruler in the 6th century, she may well have existed too, albeit not as a waitress at the Boar Hat. Elizabeth didn't stay in Cornwall, however: she married the King of Liones and became the mother of one of Medieval literature's favorite tragic heroes, Tristan. And that guy she married? Well his name was...





Meliodas

That's right, romantics who favor this pairing, in Arthurian legend Elizabeth marries Meliodas. Rather than being a military captain, however, he's the king of the land of Liones and the father of Tristan, who would later run off with his aunt Isolde. He was apparently something of a difficult man, and when Elizabeth died, he didn't waste any time marrying a Breton princess. He at some point may have had an illegitimate son with the Queen of Scotland, also named Meliodas, because apparently subtly wasn't the Queen's thing. (Though all of these ladies could tie in with Meliodas' groping.) That Meliodas was set adrift and later rescued and raised by the famous Lady of the Lake, and I couldn't say for certain which one Suzuki's character is more based on. In either case, both are tied to the kingdom of Liones in one way or another, which is important because it is likely a form of the name Lyonesse. Lyonesse is one of the more romantic parts of Arthurian myth, a sunken kingdom off the coast of Cornwall that is said to have been submerged by Merlin's ghost when Mordred's army tried to take refuge there. Historically there is a theory that the Scillies were once a single island and that the portion that was washed away was Lyonesse, but I prefer the myth that says that when the tide is changing and the day is silent, you can hear the drowned church bells of Lyonesse tolling from beneath the waves.

Either way, it doesn't look good for Elizabeth's homeland in the story, does it?

Of course, Elizabeth and Meliodas aren't the only characters in The Seven Deadly Sins who will go on to become the parents of some of King Arthur's contemporaries. That honor also goes to





Ban

Okay, raise your hand if you've heard of Lancelot. That's right, the hotshot knight who had an affair with Arthur's wife Guinevere and, if some scholars are to be believed, replaced Sir Gawain in later Medieval stories. Well, Ban, King of Benwick, was his father. In the early days of Arthur's rule, Ban helped him to secure his place as the King of the Britons. As you can see from the picture, he wasn't particularly muscular or immortal, but he was a good guy, a staunch defender of Arthur's right to rule and a devoted husband to his wife (you guessed it) Elaine. Or was he? Some stories say that he had an illegitimate son named Ector and that it was when his castle was destroyed that he died of a broken heart, so there's definitely some literary wiggle room here. Much more interestingly, and to the point of Suzuki's interpretation of the character, there's some suggestion that he's less an Arthurian figure and more a corruption of the Celtic god Bran, who, although his body died in battle, remained semi-alive in that his head continued to speak after being removed from his corpse. This fits in a little better with The Seven Deadly Sins, as does the association with the Irish word for white, bán – Suzuki's version of the character has that white hair and pale skin to go with his immortality, suggesting that the Fox Sin of Greed owes his existence to both King Ban and the Irish god Bran.

He is not, however, the only character in The Seven Deadly Sins to be an amalgamation of multiple legendary people. Probably the character with the most sources would be his beloved





Elaine

In The Seven Deadly Sins, Elaine is the sister of King, a fairy princess in charge of guarding both the Fountain of Youth and the entire forest it nourishes. In Arthurian legend, she's roughly 900 different people and arguably the most popular early Medieval woman's name ever. One Elaine, as I said before, was the wife of King Ban and the mother of Sir Lancelot, but probably the most famous one, and the Elaine Suzuki's is based on, is Elaine of Astolat, better known as The Lady of Shallott. This Elaine was sequestered in a tower, where she spent her time weaving tapestries, seeing the outside world only through the mirror on the underside of her loom, which also reflected the window behind her. (Tapestry patterns only show up on the part of the weaving that's been wound around to the underneath, so a mirror is the only way to see if what you're weaving is coming out right.) Through this mirror she saw the gorgeous knight Lancelot, fell in love with him, and basically committed suicide by leaving her tower to go see him at Camelot. We can see this influence in The Seven Deadly Sins' Elaine in that she's trapped in what is basically a tower guarding both the fountain and the forest, and it is love that eventually spells her doom – she dies so that Ban will live, giving up her life to prove her love. Fortunately for her, Ban is a nicer guy than Lancelot, who, according to Alfred, Lord Tennyson's poem, just comments that she's pretty. Interestingly enough, Tennyson also has people refer to the Lady as “the fairy,” which is quite literal in Suzuki's version. Elaine also owes a little something to the Grail Maiden, who is yet another Elaine in Arthurian legend, who, very simply, protected the Holy Grail. This is probably the easiest link to see, since the Fountain of Youth is conveniently contained in an overflowing grail-like object...and when Elaine ceases to guard it, she dies.

Basically, being named “Elaine” in an Arthurian story is never a good sign.





King

It's a little better, however, if you're the king of the fairies, who, I feel obliged to mention, does not have a sister named Elaine anywhere in Arthurian myth. Most people are more familiar with the fairy king who goes by the name Oberon, but he's not the only fey ruler in the Arthurian legends, although he does have a role in some of the stories. No, the fairy king here is known alternatively as Harlequin or Hellekin (sometimes spelled “Hellequin”), and he's Morgan le Fey's lover as well as the leader of the Wild Hunt. We'll get to Morgan in a moment, but with King in the series, it's that Wild Hunt part that's important. The Wild Hunt, you see, is a group of fair folk who ride at night, chasing, depending on which story you read, the souls of the damned, those who have wronged the fairies, or any poor soul who crosses their path. This links to King because the Wild Hunt doesn't ride on the ground – they fly through the air on their enchanted steeds, unrelenting. And unless they choose to let their quarry go, the unfortunates will be chased by the Wild Hunt forever. We can see this in The Seven Deadly Sins with King's pursuit of Ban – Ban has, in King's mind, wronged the fairy court, and so King will pursue him until he is dead, which in Ban's case is something along the lines of forever. Even King's floating pillow can be seen as a reference to the horse Hellekin rides in the Hunt, as it allows him to fly through the air. (It's actually named after one of King Arthur's swords, though.) Technically King does give up his pursuit of Ban, but that's in the myth too – sometimes, the Wild Hunt will allow someone to escape, proving that maybe they aren't totally without compassion.



Diane

And speaking of compassion, most of King's seems to come out around Diane, the giantess he's madly in love with. Now obviously the go-to explanation here for most people is going to be the Roman Diana, goddess of the hunt (Artemis in Greek mythology), but there is actually a Diane in the Arthurian mythology who is a better fit. She's the goddess of the wood and mother of Vivianne, who is also known as Nimue. Diane (and Nimue) are associated with Rhiannon: in one myth she “demonstrates the powers of a giant” by carrying people and horses. All of these goddess references are even further compounded when Diane takes the name “Matrona” during the tournament in episodes 9 – 11: Matrona, or Modron, is an early form of Morgan, as in Morgan le Fay. She's a nature goddess, which ties in with Diane in the series sleeping the woods and having the powers of the earth, and in the earliest King Arthur stories she's a mystical, benevolent enchantress who takes the wounded King Arthur after his final battle. She's also, if you remember, the lover of Hellekin, the fairy king.

Now, in the show Diane remarks that she chose the name “Matrona” after someone she used to know, which could imply that she'll end up being a separate character entirely. But there are enough links between Suzuki's Diane and Matrona herself that maybe we can dream that King will get his giant in the end.



Gowther

The final Sin we meet in the first season of the anime, and the eleven graphic novels of the manga available in English as of this writing, is Gowther, because most of you already know who Merlin is. Gowther is one of the more interesting translations from the legends, actually: he's a knight who inherited both Good and Evil from his parents and must cope with the two warring inside of him for mastery. (Basically he's the human embodiment of the literary term “psychomachy.”) In The Seven Deadly Sins, Gowther appears to have no understanding of basic human emotions or interactions, seeming totally blank, as he might be if he contained two opposite forces which might then cancel each other out. His struggles to understand people could also be seen as his internal difficulties in legend, or at least a result of them: he's so busy trying to get himself sorted out that he has had limited opportunities to figure out other people. It may be a stretch; but then, Gowther is one of the most obscure of Suzuki's picks, followed only by Escanor, the final sin we haven't met yet and who is essentially the male version of “Elaine” - there are tons of guys named “Escanor” peppering Arthurian mythology.

And there you have it – the legends behind the shounen action series. Isn't it funny how an old middle/high school fascination can resurface later on in life in a totally different form? It certainly lends some credence to the idea that there are only so many stories and we just keep retelling them. I'm not sure how the T. H. White would have felt about this new interpretation of the King Arthur story (I'm pretty sure Thomas Malory would approve), but I have to say that knowing the sources always makes me enjoy the story even more. I hope it does for you too, and don't forget to help fill in any gaps in the comments!
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Oh and there is something about Escanor in comments:
"I think Escanor is likely based off of the one in L'Atre Perilleux whose strength grows during the day (peaking at noon) and lessens at night, but I'm not willing to write off other Escanors yet.] It was a hard decision not to include Merlin in this, but there's just so much on the original that it would have turned into a whole article just on him."
 
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Can you link the source?
 

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Can you link the source?
Linked :D Here, catch again :D http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-01-01/king-arthur-and-the-seven-deadly-sins/.96980
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Och and there is something about Escanor in comments:
"I think Escanor is likely based off of the one in L'Atre Perilleux whose strength grows during the day (peaking at noon) and lessens at night, but I'm not willing to write off other Escanors yet.] It was a hard decision not to include Merlin in this, but there's just so much on the original that it would have turned into a whole article just on him."
 

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This is pretty interesting. Since Nakaba is plnning a manga with Arthur next, Lancelot could actually be Ban and Elaine's son in this,with Ector being Jericho's son.

I would like to know more about King's relation with Morgan... I think someone here speculated that she could be a Fairy.
 

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If Meliodas is portrayed as King and If Nakaba follows that direction we can be sure that there is something going on with him.
It seems that everything fits here because there is clear resemblance between characters. In Gowther's case it is so clear that we can not even argue with that xD
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Escanor de la Montagne

At the castle, the abductor was reunited with his captive, and they continued on their journey after breakfast. When news reached Gawain that they have left, he wanted to set out after them. Both the blonde damsel of the Perilous Cemetary and the young lord wished to accompany him in this journey.

Gawain left the cemetary with his companions, but Gawain failed to gain on the abductor before nightfall. The abductor and his captive reach another castle and was given accommodation by the lord. Gawain's young companion was also related to this lord by marriage.

Before, the abductor and captive entered the castle, the blonde damsel from Perilous Cemetary was upset that Gawain would be fighting this knight that they were following, because she recognise him. She pleaded him not to fight him, because she knew that Gawain's mother had warned her son not to fight a knight, named Escanor de la Montagne. Strangely, Escanor have the gift that most people associate with Gawain, himself, where his strength increase each hour in the morning, reaching peak at noon, before his strength decline after each hour in the afternoon.

Another interesting information, revealed is that Gawain's mother was a fairy. Though, the text doesn't actually reveal his mother's name, this "fairy" implied that Gawain's mother was Morgan, sister of King Arthur, because she was known as Morgan le Fay. Usually, Gawain's mother and Arthur's sister, was an ordinary woman, named Morgawse or Morcades; perhaps the author had mistaken Gawain's mother being Morgan.

When she couldn't dissuade Gawain from combat with Escanor, she advised him to fight him late in the afternoon or even at night. Gawain agreed.

At Gawain's instruction, his young friend visited the lord, and convinced his kinsman, that the captive should be given into the care of the lord's wife, who was another sister to Gawain's companion. The lord couldn't refuse the boon, so the abductor couldn't sleep with damsel. Escanor was again angry with the young lord at Gawain's service.

Escanor only agreed to surrender his captive, or else he would be force to face Gawain at night. When Gawain heard that Escanor had given in to his host's suggestion.

In the morning, Gawain got up early, and managed to confront the abductor just outside of the castle, on the road.

It was revealed that Escanor had planned this day, far in advance. It was his plan to send the damsel to Arthur's castle. He hoped that Gawain would follow and fight him. The damsel was really Escanor's sweetheart. By this time, Escanor didn't want to fight Gawain, and was willing to let his pursuer to leave, without a fight, but Gawain consider this, would brand him as a coward.

Gawain's friend, remembering the damsel advice to the hero, tried to delay the combat, suggest this wasn't a good place to fight and suggest the best place would be in the open field. Both knights agreed, and followed the young lord.

Each damsel was now fearing for her knight, as they sat on the hill, under a tree. Escanor's damsel now regretted to her lover's plan.

Both knights charged, with their lances levelled against each other. Both lances shattered on the other shields. Gawain immediately drew his sword, but Escanor suggested that Gawain's companion to fetch more lances from the castle. When the lord returned with six lances and offer them first to Gawain, he graciously told his friend to give Escanor the first choice of lance. This allowed Escanor choose three of the best. But it was all to no avail, all the lances were destroyed in the jousts. Both knights then attacked each other with their swords.

Gawain was fighting quite well, until he split deeply Escanor's shield, but his sword got stuck. Escanor twisted his shield, so that Gawain lost his sword. Weaponless, Gawain rode away, and picked up one of the broken lances that Escanor had discarded earlier. Instead of aiming the lance at the knight, Gawain killed Escanor horse. Escanor was outraged, that Gawain had killed his charger, as he leaped to his feet. To Escanor, it was cowardly act to kill an opponent's horse; he lost all respect for Gawain. Gawain seeing how tall Escanor, feared for his own horse, Gringalet, quickly dismount to fight his enemy on foot. Gawain managed to regain his sword.

The two knights fought long and hard, sometimes favouring Escanor, and at other time favouring Gawain. By the sun rose higher, Escanor became stronger. The shield barely protected them, and their hauberks were torn in several places, revealing their bleeding wounds.

The fight ended suddenly, when Escanor's sword became stuck on Gawain's shield, and couldn't draw it back. Escanor now fearing death, pleaded for mercy. Instead of accepting his enemy's surrender, Gawain dispatched his enemy: his sword clove Escanor's head all the way to the shoulders.

The young lord and the blonde lady were overjoyed that Gawain was victorious, but Escanor's damsel was grieving for her dead knight. Gawain consoled her, by promising that she should return his uncle's castle, where Arthur could find a better knight to be her husband. The damsel agreed to Gawain's suggestion. So the two ladies and the young lord followed Gawain back to Arthur's castle, but Gawain's adventure would not end so soon.


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It says that Escanor was defeated or i read somewhere that he was killed and he was son of goddesses.
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Also Melioda was called the greatest knight of his times. He was sealed by enchanters and later released by Merlin.
 

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I'm usually only here for spoilers but I love reading about mythology, legends, folklore etc... so I hope you don't mind me joining in.
These are mostly things I found on my own or copied though so I apologize for any mistakes. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
(Will (mostly) only be speaking about Jericho is this post though so if she doesn't interest you feel free to skip this). ;p

According to several sources king Ban did indeed have two sons; Lancelot by Elaine and Ector de Maris by Lady de Maris/Damsel des Mares.
As quite many people I too believe Lady de Maris might indeed be Jericho. Now some sources say that king Ban only slept with her due to
Merlin's enchantment though. (Even that Merlin admired/desired her).
According to http://nightbringer.se/a_mares.html Ban did, however, give her a ring (which was given to him by Elaine) which allowed her to
prove Ector is indeed Lancelot's half-brother. She also left her castle at least once to go meet Lancelot's mother, Queen Elaine.
This kinda adds up nicely to the manga where the three of them (Ban, Elaine & Jericho) are currently together. :)

Another character that interests me is Agravadain (Lady de Maris' father). He was said to have been castellan of the 'Des Mares' castle,
knight of the round table & after his death his son became castellan (*cough* Gustaf perhaps?).
http://nightbringer.se/a_agravadain.html
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Other than that, for those who didn't know yet, Jericho is also the location where "the battle of Jericho" took place.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho

Also quite interesting to read (about Jericho & Killia (Ban's little sister who lately seems to appear a lot)).
https://www.tumblr.com/dashboard/blog/fairvfoxy7/135496877786


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I think it would be easier to have 1 topic where you can speak of the characters & their mythological counterparts instead of seperate
topics perhaps? Unless you're gonna start posting long theories etc like in Merlin's & Arthur's topic of course...

Currently it's mostly Jericho, Ban & Anything to do with the Goddesses that catches my interest. I did read up some stuff about several other
characters too but the article above mostly sums up it all.
 
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