Characters Aura Levels

[JmoWolf]

When Knuckle showed his ability he talked about peoples max aura so i was wondering what the estimated max aura of some other characters could be.

What we know so far

Gon - 21,500 at the time he fought Knuckle
Morel - 70,000
Youpi - 700,00 Knuckle guess he was 10x higher than Morel

 

[XXGenesis]

I would have to conclude that knuckle's calculation on how much Aura Morel or Yupi had was incorrect.

1. Morel an experience Nen user who raised Knuckle and Shoot 2pretty decent Nen users, & had the stamina to continuously assault the Ants and in NGL & East Gorteu for days, then proceed to take part in the invasion arc. His Max aura lv is just to close to Gon

2.Pitou the calculations he was giving for Pitou definitely seemed like he couldn't get a proper gauge on it and on PotClean before he dispelled it with only a few minutes left its was well over 700k so that right there shows that he was off.

 

[JmoWolf]

1. Could Morel's ability to fight for days on end be just becuase he is better at manipulating and controling his nen as opposed to having more nen.

2. Yeah i guess Pitou would probably atleast be at 800k if not more.

 

[Demonspeed]

I would have to conclude that knuckle's calculation on how much Aura Morel or Yupi had was incorrect.

1. Morel an experience Nen user who raised Knuckle and Shoot 2pretty decent Nen users, & had the stamina to continuously assault the Ants and in NGL & East Gorteu for days, then proceed to take part in the invasion arc. His Max aura lv is just to close to Gon

2.Pitou the calculations he was giving for Pitou definitely seemed like he couldn't get a proper gauge on it and on PotClean before he dispelled it with only a few minutes left its was well over 700k so that right there shows that he was off.

Knuckle has a lot of experience and good judgment, it's necessary with an ability like that. He is also Morel's disciple so he knows him very well, he can't be wrong. I don't think that Morel and Gon's level is too close but Gon is a genius. Stamina is not only related to Nen.

Calculations for Pitou? I don't remember this, do you have a link?

 

[JmoWolf]

This is the manga page i found that first mentions a calculation for Pitou's aura http://www.mangahere.co/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v25/c267/8.html

 

[kkck]

Yupi and the royals probably had more than the 700000 knuckle said. It was an estimate based on the fact that he could not properly grasp the amount of nen. It sounds like it should be upward of 10 times morel's nen. Anyways, we can't rule out it being less, we are talking about an amount of nen knuckle never even fathomed before. For all we know he just might have been biased to estimating a higher amount than the reality given the sheer amount of power he was feeling.

Anyways, I daresay your average high level nen user should be similar to morrel. I guess a reasonable number could be anywhere between morrel's 70000 and 100000. It would be interesting to know how much nen netero had although in his specific case I would argue the number is meaningless. He fought the king, a being presumably much stronger than the royals, on even ground for quite some time and his strongest technique caused actual damage. And clearly the king should have a number of times netero's nen. Netero's skill basically dwarfed his actual amount of nen and netero probably had remarkably high levels of nen.

 

[XXGenesis]

Exactly Knuckle can easily determine what his teachers Morel Aura capacity is, but he estimated on Yupi's Nen capacity an amount he couldn't really grasp or calculate...With 11minites left in PotClean Bankruptcy Yupi had 370k already used up, I went and double checked...

I don't mind playing around with the guessin game of how much aura do you think this person has..But as HxH I would hate for it to start to be a reference on how strong characters are.

MOP, AOP, POP are juss references to what separates new Nen users or intermediate compared to Expeienced
and master level Nen users...

Also I don't see how fans could realistically use Knuckle's calculations for Aura Amount consumption. I highly doubt Togashi intended to implement this into Nen fights with numbers and calculations being thrown around to gauge stamina, defense and attack power. He brought it up because It was. Knuckle's nitch with his Hatsu...and to proper explain how Killua & Gon weren't ready to fight experienced Nen users aside from G.I noobs, chasing the spiders, and Battle tower fodder.

 

[howdydodah]

It's crazy, if you think about it, morel is 70,000, it got me thinking even more and suddenly I remember Hisoka's ranking. If by 70,000 could it be that it translates directly to Hisoka's power rating as 70? Then that could only mean Illumi is 95,000 and 100,000 is as xgenesis pointed out the Highest average power possible for a human.

And no @xGenesis, MoP is only the half of it, you have to train on your AAP, as well as PAP for more effecient KO(Uvon). It can be used well to guage combatants properly, because it's not all about dishing Hatsus then game over, i.e. Kuroro vs Silva and Zeno, there was a bit of physical confrontation in which clearly kuroro was at a disadvantage in AAP(RYU).

No matter how much Ren(MoP) you show(Gon), it's still not indicative of how good your RYU is, Gon's KO(PAP) however is highly advanced, that's why the more experienced users are always in awe.

Essentially, even if Gon is 20kMoP and Morel is 70k, Morel's mastery of Ryu or even counter KO to defend against Gon's own KO(PAP) is minute, therefore gon can dish out only 3 KO's or janken(rocks) of over almost 7k over nen reinforcment, over Morel's own defense, which probably is 5k(60%) as defense.

So that's why Gon is so dangerous, his already reached a level that can utilize 1/3 of his MoP as attack, much like Uvon can.

Of course it wouldn't kill somebody like Morel, much like Genthru survived, because Gon just physically(without nen), is far too weak agains their own Physical strength and durability.

 

[uberfayt]

Wait I see people just guessing what Youpi's aura number while Togashi actually gave us enough data to determine it. He said that "even by reducing his aura usage to the minimum, Youpi would go bankrupt 11 minutes and 43 after the start of the operation". Moreover there is this page from where we can have our data:

Now let's start the computations.

Spoiler: computation process

The rule is that every 10 seconds, our given amount of aura increases by 10%.

Let me fix my notation here: Say we start with X_0 amount of aura, then the amount of aura after the n-th increase (i.e; after 10*n seconds) will be denoted by X_n.

When we translate the above bolded rule mathematically we get: X_n= X_{n-1}+0.1 * X_{n-1}= X_0 * (1.1)^n

Now let's apply this in Youpi's case. Based on this image, we get that X_0 = 60610, and that we have 3 minutes 50 seconds till the end, hence 230 seconds left. In this amount of time 23 increases can be performed, thus Youpi's total amount of aura is:

X_23=60610 * (1.1)^23 = 60610 * 8.96 = 542720.3

Hence Youpi has 542720 aura (remaining).

Edit: This number is just Youpi's remaining aura at that point. So I guess in the end his max aura level should be around what Knuckles suggested.

 

[kkck]

Wait I see people just guessing what Youpi's aura number while Togashi actually gave us enough data to determine it. He said that "even by reducing his aura usage to the minimum, Youpi would go bankrupt 11 minutes and 43 after the start of the operation". Moreover there is this page from where we can have our data:

Now let's start the computations.

Spoiler: computation process

The rule is that every 10 seconds, our given amount of aura increases by 10%.

Let me fix my notation here: Say we start with X_0 amount of aura, then the amount of aura after the n-th increase (i.e; after 10*n seconds) will be denoted by X_n.

When we translate the above bolded rule mathematically we get: X_n= X_{n-1}+0.1 * X_{n-1}= X_0 * (1.1)^n

Now let's apply this in Youpi's case. Based on this image, we get that X_0 = 60610, and that we have 3 minutes 50 seconds till the end, hence 230 seconds left. In this amount of time 23 increases can be performed, thus Youpi's total amount of aura is:

X_23=60610 * (1.1)^23 = 60610 * 8.96 = 542720.3

Hence Youpi has 542720 aura. Quite less than what Knuckles estimated.

You are missing one detail there. Yupi had been fighting for a long time by then. And on top of that you have the nen exchanges and whatnot. The pages before that make the point that each transformation yupi underwent must have cost him substantial amounts of nen. So 542k would be the amount of nen yupi had after consuming astonishing amounts of it to begin with. So his normal level must be insanely higher than that.

 

[uberfayt]

You are missing one detail there. Yupi had been fighting for a long time by then. And on top of that you have the nen exchanges and whatnot. The pages before that make the point that each transformation yupi underwent must have cost him substantial amounts of nen. So 542k would be the amount of nen yupi had after consuming astonishing amounts of it to begin with. So his normal level must be insanely higher than that.

I know that he's been using aura for transforming and fighting, the problem is I thought Potclin's number has to reach the target's maximal aura level for it to go bunkrupt, but I was wrong . You're right, it should be more than 542k. This number I calculated is just Youpi's remaining aura (at least I had fun doing the computations...)

 

[XXGenesis]

I Rlly realized how crazy DK continent creatures really can be. They posses a monsterous amount of aura. Which transfers over to huge gains in AOP, & POP. It's basically unsurpassable by current means....Unless haxx Hatsu's are developed & used in conjunction. If they are even in capable hands of physical & experienced fighters...

 

[BurnSchulz]

Exactly Knuckle can easily determine what his teachers Morel Aura capacity is, but he estimated on Yupi's Nen capacity an amount he couldn't really grasp or calculate...With 11minites left in PotClean Bankruptcy Yupi had 370k already used up, I went and double checked...

Thats right although you meant that 11 Minutes have already passed, not that 11 minutes were left. Because as far as i remember it was stated that Yupie was just a few seconds away of being bankrupt when knuckle released potclean.